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This is the same problem, like when iOS users restore or upgrade from some ancient backup. Then complain about a buggy new device, or slow
 
Just my 2 cents - coming from a previous gen 13" Macbook Air the battery life on my new 13" macbook pro is about half that of the Air during regular usage. On my new pro I get about 5hrs avg. On my Air I got 8-9hrs avg.

Obviously not an exactly scientific test, but the difference is staggering.

Battery life is really the only aspect of the new pro I personally am disappointed with, but I view this device mostly as a new "Air" not a true Pro product.

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Yes I'm in the boat for a new one and yes I am holding off since I saw the specs and read all of your comments.

A bit of googling shows that the 2012-2013 rMBP faced the same problems that were fixed with a firmware update, like the SB4...

Knowing apple for quality products I may only hope this will all be solved with an update or something so apple can take my $$$. If not, I will wait this thing out with great respect for all of you that have bitten the bullet and kept us informed!
 
Mine has been flawless. 12 hours of battery on average when I have automatic graphics turned on, the USB-C ports work great and haven't been a headache at all. If you're a professional you'll have many things plugged in anyway, doesn't matter how they're plugged in, if you ask me. I have the 2.9GHz Radeon Pro 460, which handles games much better than the Mid 2015 maxed out MBP hands down, and 1TB storage. This thing is awesome!
 
I bought a stock 512GB, 8GB 13" TB Pro about a week and a half ago. Besides downloading some of my iTunes library, the SSD is nearly empty... I didn't restore the Mac on a backup of my previous machine. I haven't done any actual tests or timing of the battery but I've been disappointed so far in battery life. Just a few minutes ago, I unplugged my fully charged MBP and restarted it. With just Safari (one tab on MR) and iMessage open, and screen brightness around 2/3, the battery is estimating 6:44 remaining. Before the restart, with Safari, iMessage, and iTunes open (but nothing actually playing anything), it was estimating 3:45 remaining...
 
I am in the same boat. I grew up in Bay Area and had family friends who worked at Apple and have been part of their ride when Jobbs left and then when he came back. I have personally purchased over 30 Apple Computers for myself over the years, towers, laptops, iMacs, I have had lots freelance businesses and lots of personal computers, I still have a few 3,1's and 5,1 towers in my house I can't bare to get rid off, nothing else Apple makes now is better!! When Apple made the G4, Grey and White, it was the first computer I actually felt could compete with the PC world. For speed and peripherals. It finally was using standard PC architecture and I was able to edit video with Final Cut using firewire. It was an amazing setup. Fast forward almost 20 years I feel like Apple is trying to convince us of their innovation, and not really innovating. This all started with Apple KILLING the post production market with the TRASHCAN tower. I remember TIM COOKE staying, "who said we can't innovate" when the curtain fell and they showed their darth vader trash can Mac Pro. My first thought was COOKE your an idiot. First off you just killed the Pro market on OS X, secondly you just designed your self into a hole. Everything on the MacPro Tower is proprietary, nothing is standard, every time they make a new release of that computer they will have to Redesign the whole thing, and thats R&D and money out the door. The D700 GPU wasn't the fastest thing in the world when it came out, and its sauntered on there.. Now the Thunderbolt2 is now passed up by the Thunderbolt3 USBC world. Where is the MacPro tower now??? ITS DEAD.. ITS in "INNOVATION PURGATORY"

They did the same thing with the Laptops, INNOVATE by any means necessary.. If you want a SUPER SUPER SUPER LIGHT AND THIN LAPTOP, buy a MACBOOK, don't take the PRO LINE and make it a MACBOOK. Don't INNOVATE the "PRO" away..

Anyway, I think their main concern at the moment is keeping their stock trading as high as possible and that means, INNOVATION for the SAKE of INNOVATION. Convince the NOVICE public and NOVICE shareholders(who own PC Laptops) that APPLE is dominating the creative and innovative computer and technology markets, without listening to those creatives that made Apple, Apple. Investors don't really know the difference.. so everyone seems to be fine. A market 80% of investors, admittedly, don't understand.

Right now Apple can burn cash, they could loose more money than they made during Jobb's reign as long as the current iOS customers upgrade even modestly. And its funny because TIM COOKE is the king of the bean counters, and he is totally fine not making money how money was made in the past. Tim Cooke is kinda gouging the current Mac Users, to make money, the ones who have stayed loyal all these years. GRANTED PC Companies have done this since Day 1. Don't even get into backend and database companies.. they will take your house away for an update cost.

BUT IM still IN.. I love OS X and Apple for all its faults. Im still pissed at how messed up iphoto to Photo is, and how messed up iTUNES is now.. WHAT A MESS... but OS X is clean and fast, and as horrible as Apple is these days, they still make way better products than anyone else.

I was about to buy a new MacBook pro for myself, my company actually passed on them.. LOL. but I am waiting to see where all this lands..

I am not sure who can lead this company anymore.. I guess my 5,1 will still last until LINUX gets better or someone from Apple goes ROGUE writes a new OS.

I often think TC does not really care about the end users. He just cares about your money. There is nothing wrong with that. If he runs a fast food chain or dollar store, he would be a wonderful fit. But here Apple is just too great for him to run.

I remember it was told that Steve Jobs would personally try each product Apple released. If there is anything he does not like, he would not release it. I really do not think TC gives a damn about how it feels before each product got released. I don't have the new macbook pro, but if the battery is that noticeably bad. there would be no way Steve Jobs would have pushed it out.

But this is not the first time, right? How man buggy software release they have been released under tim cook. For starters, my experience with external monitor just got worse after each upgrade. sometimes in clamshell mode I couldnot wake up the laptop after it is put on charge and connected to the monitor. there are a lot of other things that i thought it would only happen to windows.

i have already stopped using ipad. I was thinking of buying the apple tv, now i am using the fire tv. there is really not much difference now days, and apple still think they can charge more than others because of, because of what?? Once my current laptop dies, i might just go for a nice look hardware from dell/asus/hp/lenovo. I will use Linux. to be honest, in terms of the UI, i think Ubuntu is just great and simple, and MINT is just awesome!

I do miss those days Apple gave us great things we all could be excited about, and be proud of using. Unfortunately I think with Apple under TC, can might just have to say good bye to those old good days.
 
I wish apple would make two pro laptop machines, an ultra portable, which is what they have now, and a "workhorse" edition. The workhorse could be thicker, with bigger battery, more powerful chip(s), two ssd slots, up to 32gb ram, FireWire, Ethernet, etc.
You would think that will be the natural progression in design.

When a bezel-less display is introduced, the minimum footprint for a given display-size will be reached, and from there the only distinguishing factor between portability versus battery power and perfomance will have to be defined by the thickness..

that said, knowing apple, dont expect too many extra ports on a "fatty" version;)
 
Mine has been flawless. 12 hours of battery on average when I have automatic graphics turned on, the USB-C ports work great and haven't been a headache at all. If you're a professional you'll have many things plugged in anyway, doesn't matter how they're plugged in, if you ask me. I have the 2.9GHz Radeon Pro 460, which handles games much better than the Mid 2015 maxed out MBP hands down, and 1TB storage. This thing is awesome!

Is that hours or minutes?
 
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This MacBook Pro is a hit! Best Mac EVER! What's next, TouchBar failures?
Yeah that's already happening actually...
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Wow, hold the front page! Laptop battery lasts less time when using power hungry apps!

To quote Apple. "UP TO 10 hours battery life".

3 hours is "up to" 10 hours.
Use better designed apps.

Using Apple's apps, such as Logic and Final Cut will drain the battery in 3 hours... this was not the case with their last model. Battery is dying faster than previous models because they made it smaller and are powering a brighter screen and useless touchbar.
 
Mine has been flawless. 12 hours of battery on average when I have automatic graphics turned on, the USB-C ports work great and haven't been a headache at all. If you're a professional you'll have many things plugged in anyway, doesn't matter how they're plugged in, if you ask me. I have the 2.9GHz Radeon Pro 460, which handles games much better than the Mid 2015 maxed out MBP hands down, and 1TB storage. This thing is awesome!

Obviously made up.
 
What is funny is that people whine about the new Apple products and yet still buy them. Sheep behaviour. The best strategy that Apple implemented was to make people believe that they need a new Apple machine every couple of years. Don't get me wrong, I think that Apple has lost its way and the new products that are coming out are just overpriced cr*p. And that is why i have decided to stick with my 2013 MBP for a few more years to come. It works flawlessly and it has a decent battery life and does what I want it to do perfectly. And whilst I am at it I will also stick to my iPhone 6 for another couple of years (at least).

Learn the lesson people. The only way to make multi billion corporation giants is to vote with your money. it's what hurts them most and what will make them change their manners faster. Otherwise as long as you keep buying their products, you can whine and whinge as long as you wish, because all Apple will do is keep laughing at you whilst paying Cook and Ive fat bonuses.
 
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3 hours battery life on one of the most expensive laptop but dude, check out that touchbar ! LOL

no pro is going to ever use that touchbar. the news are in. nobody uses it. it's a big lie.

apple is a fiasco on so many levels in 2016

2017 is going to see shareholders show the door to timmy, i'm pretty sure.
it can't go on this way.
 
3 hours battery life on one of the most expensive laptop but dude, check out that touchbar ! LOL

no pro is going to ever use that touchbar. the news are in. nobody uses it. it's a big lie.

apple is a fiasco on so many levels in 2016

2017 is going to see shareholders show the door to timmy, i'm pretty sure.
it can't go on this way.
if you read this comment in Donald Trumps voice it starts to make sense.
 
Two things that did bug and could be a deal breaker, the size of the trackpad meant constant right clicking with your palm being interpreted as a two finger tap. It drove me bonkers. In the end I moved my hand to the very edge of the trackpad which didn't feel natural or comfortable.

I believe you can avoid this by setting "Secondary click" to eg "Bottom left corner" in the trackpad prefs.
 
The more people defend this MacBook release, I'm getting happier with every page I read.

I was on vacation with my whole family, watching the keynote on my iPad using all my roaming data allowance.
Even told my dad he can have my MacBook because I would definitely order one.

The first think that made me wonder was the comparison with the very first PowerBook.
They desperately tried to avoid showing thr ports of the previous model, talking mainly about volume and weight.

Then, after talking about the famous and widely successful TV App, they showed Photoshop and the DJ demo and I knew they have no idea what they want to accomplish.

There was no "story", no "Wow!" basef around a new idea or concept.
They already revealed Sierra together with the iPhone 7. There was no way this MacBook could improve so much from the 2015 version.

Now we just know that new hardware does not cut it. Look at iOS.
The iPad Pro would have been so much better with a full redesign of iOS for iPad.
The MacBook would have been great with Touch enabled Sierra.
By the way, brought to you by Apple who has revolutionized Touch on mobile. Pinch to zoom and all.

The MacBook in its current form has no added value.
The design philosophy shows a lack of hands-on testing.
It is a beautiful piece of designed technology best kept under glas.

And Apple did not lie to anyone. It's exactly the way they sold it to you.
It can be admired but you can't work with it without realizing all its flaws.

Chrome is not the issue. It's the conclusion of an inevitable sequence of wrong decisions.
Thanks Apple
 
I think for now I will keep with my 2013 rMBP, I really wanted to justify to myself that I could benefit from an upgrade... but with the battery issues and graphic glitches... it just doesn't seem to be worth it.
 
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