Hmmm... my previous MBP is 17" and wasn't hot. This brand new MBP is warmer, yet the Santa Rosa and LED should result in a cooler notebook, so the size seems to be a major factor...
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Hmmm... my previous MBP is 17" and wasn't hot. This brand new MBP is warmer, yet the Santa Rosa and LED should result in a cooler notebook, so the size seems to be a major factor...
I had several samples of both and I think there was a considerable difference in heat. However, that doesn't meant thast the Core2duo 15" MBPs were cool. They're most certainly NOT.
are there any 15" mbp owners here who regret not going up to 17"? the 15" just seem small to me...but i'm thinking of getting one as they have the LEDs. I(i really need some advice here guys!!) i'm just afraid the 15" won't be big enough for gaming and dvds...
I'm switching from 14.1", so to me its a lot of real estate. I can't imagine the 17"! For me, the 15.4 is a great balance between pixels and portability.
I am typing into a 1 day old, new 15" MBP right here and now, and it is stone cold. It's been running for quite a while and I keep it busy. It replaced an original first generation MacBook which could literally burn my legs through clothing!
This one is not even warm. Much improved.
LED backlights
Just to clear something up, These backlights are most likely not using the same 'white' LEDs that you see in flashlights. They are using individual red, green and blue high-brightness LEDs, which means a better
matching between the LCD filter and the backlight spectrum. (ie, no 'in-between' colors that get completely blocked or wash out the image)
Just to clear something up, These backlights are most likely not using the same 'white' LEDs that you see in flashlights. They are using individual red, green and blue high-brightness LEDs, which means a better
matching between the LCD filter and the backlight spectrum. (ie, no 'in-between' colors that get completely blocked or wash out the image)
Hi-res vs LED
The hardest decision here for me is choosing between two great display upgrades: LED for the 15" vs a higher-res screen for the 17".
My inclination is to go for the higher-res screen. LED is nice and all, but I'll probably only notice that in the form of a few extra minutes of battery life. A higher-res screen is obviously a much bigger impact on the user experience.
I hate to buy something that uses a little more energy and contains mercury now that the LED is available, and if I could do both that and hi-res, I would. Sadly, I would probably have to wait at least six months to get that wish.
Thoughts on this anyone?
The hardest decision here for me is choosing between two great display upgrades: LED for the 15" vs a higher-res screen for the 17".
My inclination is to go for the higher-res screen. LED is nice and all, but I'll probably only notice that in the form of a few extra minutes of battery life. A higher-res screen is obviously a much bigger impact on the user experience.
I hate to buy something that uses a little more energy and contains mercury now that the LED is available, and if I could do both that and hi-res, I would. Sadly, I would probably have to wait at least six months to get that wish.
Thoughts on this anyone?
I'm in the exact same boat. I pulled the trigger on the 17" with HiRes display yesterday but am having 2nd thoughts. I completely agree with your assessment above, but the one thing that is giving me pause now is how there seems to be much better longevity with the LED's...I haven't owned a Mac laptop since the Powerbook 145 so I can't comment on how much brightness is lost but I want this laptop to last me at least 3-4 years and a dimmed out screen would suck.
Other than that, I'm all about the extra real estate. Next best thing to a dual monitor setup.
Well according to Apple there is no difference in brightness and color range: https://www.macrumors.com/2007/06/05/macbook-pro-led-details/
noob question about LED backlighting
Does the new LED backlighting in any way reduce the chances of having dead pixels on the screens? I'm really excited abou the new MBP's release couple days ago.
On another note, does anyone know what MBP's history has been with having screens with dead pixels or pixels dieing out within a year of purchase. I understand
does not dead pixels to be something that is covered under the guarantee. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
I'm going to wait till WWDC to see if I really do need Leopard and then either buy one immediately or wait till Leopard comes out.
Does the new LED backlighting in any way reduce the chances of having dead pixels on the screens? I'm really excited abou the new MBP's release couple days ago.
On another note, does anyone know what MBP's history has been with having screens with dead pixels or pixels dieing out within a year of purchase. I understand
does not dead pixels to be something that is covered under the guarantee. Please correct me if i'm wrong. I'm going to wait till WWDC to see if I really do need Leopard and then either buy one immediately or wait till Leopard comes out.
Hello everybody,
just found this
http://www.engadget.com/photos/macbook-pro-backlight-comparison-led-vs-ccfl-1/
in another thread and thought it might be useful here.
Also looks like the led-screen is placed al little bit higher than the ccfl one.
I am waiting till wwdc to come before buying and another reason for waiting is, because i cant deside between glossy or matte
@georgeoommen
I dont think the LED-Backlight has something to do with dead pixels.
just found this
http://www.engadget.com/photos/macbook-pro-backlight-comparison-led-vs-ccfl-1/
in another thread and thought it might be useful here.
Also looks like the led-screen is placed al little bit higher than the ccfl one.
I am waiting till wwdc to come before buying and another reason for waiting is, because i cant deside between glossy or matte
@georgeoommen
I dont think the LED-Backlight has something to do with dead pixels.
Hello everybody,
just found this
http://www.engadget.com/photos/macbook-pro-backlight-comparison-led-vs-ccfl-1/
in another thread and thought it might be useful here.
Also looks like the led-screen is placed al little bit higher than the ccfl one.
I am waiting till wwdc to come before buying and another reason for waiting is, because i cant deside between glossy or matte
@georgeoommen
I dont think the LED-Backlight has something to do with dead pixels.
So the dimensions are different.
Is the panel bigger?
Rich.
I'd disagree. I'd like to be able to better use a laptop in direct sunlight... Easily adjusting brightness would be great in my eyes.
yeah dude, paying upwards up 3000 for one of these ladies, i will certainly wait for the superior screens....(the good thing about that is that they may further perfect the technology then..just bein positive ))
the standard resolution for 17s is small...do you folks not thing the higher resolution would be to small? like for web browsing and such? the problem is that if you turn the resolution down for it, the resolution might look crappy, as most screens look best at their native resolutions...is that correct?
When I had a windows laptop I used the 1920x1200 res on a 15" screen and loved it. When I went to the mac I had to adjust my entire workflow b/c I lost sooo much screen real estate.
I really recommend the LED, now that I've got one. It's noticeably brighter and it is more uniform (no"light escaping in the edges, no darker areas). The best thing is that it will last much longer than the other screens, so I don't need to fret about the screen losing brightness after working 8 hours a day on my computer. The colours aren't really any more rich as I said before, but the brightness makes everything more crisp. I do miss the 17" on my previous MBP, but the slightly smaller size is actually really cool now that I've spent time with it, and it is definitely worth it not to pay ultra high-end money to get a 17" screen with technology that's dated and on it's way out. I did notice that the speakers on th 17" are better (maybe more of them?) but it's a small price to pay. Don't you want something that's still relevant in a few months? If you have to have the 17" I'd wait for the LEDs... it may be up to 9 months or so, and if you can't wait, get the 15"... they're available right now!
I saw the LED today first hand in the Apple Store. It is very, very nice. You do notice the difference. However, if I did get the 15", I'd feel like I needed an external monitor for the extra resolution...which I would rather not have to do as it takes up a lot of space, and I never know how big my living space will be from one month to the next.
I travel a lot so I'd rather not have a 'book that's too large. The 17" is nice, but is a bit up there in the dimensions. I'm starting to think that I'd rather wait for the MB's to get LED backlights, as I'm not that hard up for higher grade graphics, and to be honest, the MB offers virtually everything the MBP does, except for display real estate. If I do art work, not even the 17" will suit my needs anyway, so this kind of stuff will always call for an external. So I guess it's time for me to wait for the LED MB's.
the battery life does seem to be 'long'. i have owned ibook g4 which i was sure was god among notebooks before, but this one even on normal battery settings and wifi seems to take forever to drain 10%. i would imagine it is close to 15-20 minutes to drain the first 10 %. excellent.
that said, this screen is no good for design sure, but i would not be too serious about using colours that need to be precise with a laptop... no comparison. it is fast, x2 reunion came out with 38 fps and x2 54 overall in native resolution and all special effects.
next will be oblivion. wonderful machine - only real complaint is the left hand side usb is underpowered - not enough juice to power a portable, usb-powered hd while the right hand side does. oh bother, im a firewire guy anyway.
that said, this screen is no good for design sure, but i would not be too serious about using colours that need to be precise with a laptop... no comparison. it is fast, x2 reunion came out with 38 fps and x2 54 overall in native resolution and all special effects.
next will be oblivion. wonderful machine - only real complaint is the left hand side usb is underpowered - not enough juice to power a portable, usb-powered hd while the right hand side does. oh bother, im a firewire guy anyway.
I just purchased one of the new MBPs today, and on the back its sticker says specifically: "Backlight lamp contains mercury; dispose of according to local, state and federal laws."The old ones didn't say they were ccfl, but it did specify "backlight lamp contains mercury", that warning is now covered up by the new stickers w/ the new specs.
They have not removed it from the manufacturing process, despite the backlight being LED. This confused me for a minute, so I landed on Apple's page about banned substances which has a list of all the banned substances. It reads:
Substances banned from products
* Asbestos
* Cadmium (Cd)
* Hexavalent Chromium (CrVI)
* Mercury (Hg), except for backlight lamps
* Lead (Pb), above and beyond RoHS requirements
* Polybrominated biphenyls (PBBs)
* Polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs)
* Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs)
* Polychlorinated dibenzodioxins (PCDDs)
* Polychlorinated dibenzofurans (PCDFs)
* Polychlorinated terphenyls (PCTs)
* Short-chain chlorinated paraffins (SCCPs)
Could someone explain this to me, that knows a little bit about the manufacturing process? Is it something like two parts to a lamp? Both containing mercury, but one replaced by an LED?
