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dr_lha said:
You'd be won't be affected though. Movies (an Mac Mini Core Duo will play back 1080p HD videos without skipping, so a MacBook certainly will), and "consumer video editing" (I'm assuming iMovie) work fine on the GMA 950.

Thanks, that is helpful. Despite my *complete* lack of empathy for the cultists, I like the look if not the weight and arbitrary 'clipped wings' of these new systems.
 
kjhawkm said:
With all the talk of the GMA950....I am trying to determine if Quartz Composer is supported on the macbooks (or the mac mini for that matter). If so, does it run at an acceptable rate? I've searched high and low for a concrete answer in this and other forums, and it seems to be a bit of a gray area. I have read the intel mac mini is supported, but not fully. This is the determining factor in wether i step up to a macbook pro or not. Thanks for any input.
Yes and yes. CoreImage stuff works great on my Mac mini, so I don't see any reason why Quartz Composer won't work on the MacBooks as well as it does on my mini.
 
Gatezone said:
Yes, it's a good thing for Apple to charge more for the black one. It cost them a lot of money over their production run to do black. It's designer black. It's cool black. It's matte finish black. Easily worth $500 more but it's a bargain at $150.

Apple is doing the best possible thing for all their customers. Their product lines couldn't be any better planned or thought out even if they tried. Their are really a fine company and they are making money which is even more important to a lot of people. Don't sweat it. Don't question it. And for heaven's sake don't expect anything more out of the great innovation company that makes such really cool commercials.

Oh, wait, what's that I see behind the curtain? A troll? My god, will you look at that.

This is hopelessly silly. Just pass the black kool-aid and Paint it Black.

That's a great song, really. I am also amused that you think my World of Warcraft character has anything to do with this thread. (Just kidding.) I'm not trolling.

Question for you, though: Are you also mad at Nissan for charging more for its schoolbus-yellow color? (They did, at least recently.)

How about at Nintendo, who charged more for certain special colors for the GameCube and GBA?

Maybe you're upset about Motorola charging more for a special color of the RAZR?

Perhaps you're mad at Target for charging more for special colors of clothes?

Many companies do this because it makes business sense. Apple's not always right, and they may not even be right here - although it certainly seems that they are, seeing as how the black MacBooks have sold out nearly everywhere.

Asking Apple to be something other than it is - a company out to make money - is silly.
 
Just got home with mine (black one). Installing Office right now. Does that MacBook use the same RAM as the Pro? If so, Omni Technologies has it for 71.99 for 1gb sticks. Gonna order two of em if they are compatible.
 
Gatezone said:
The SZ point is just that Japanese engineering can do what Apple cannot or will not. Is there German engineering in the house? OS can be handled.
Supposedly Apple hired a bunch of Sony engineers to work on laptops. I'll admit that I too am dissappointed that they did not manage to come out with a lighter/smaller laptop.
The five pound 13 inch form factor is dead, dead, dead... there will be a funeral service at sundown. Wear black even if it cost you extra.
I'm sure that these will sell well. The fact is that this is $500 cheaper than the Sony, and thats a huge difference. I personally would be prepared to pay the extra $500 for a 13" MacBook Pro that weighed 4lbs or less, but obviously Apple don't think the market will.
 
dr_Iha,

thanks for getting back so quickly. like you, i have a 12" pb g4 1ghz. does quartz composer run much faster on the macbook/mac mini than the 12"?

one other question...if quartz composer is supported, why is motion not? is it because core video is not supported by the gma950? i thought quartz composer used aspects of core video, so it would seem to me that if it is supported, motion should be as well.
 
So, out of curiosity, if I go from my PB 12" (512mb RAM, 32mb VRAM, NVidia 5200??) to a new MacBook (1gb RAM, 64mb shared video), and I play 3D games almost never, will I notice any negative issues with the graphics?
 
kjhawkm said:
dr_Iha,

thanks for getting back so quickly. like you, i have a 12" pb g4 1ghz. does quartz composer run much faster on the macbook/mac mini than the 12"?
Definitely.
one other question...if quartz composer is supported, why is motion not? is it because core video is not supported by the gma950? i thought quartz composer used aspects of core video, so it would seem to me that if it is supported, motion should be as well.
Not sure, although my guess would be video memory size. Presumably the limit of 64Mb of RAM is not enough for some of the more complex stuff in Motion. Judging by the fact that people have reported software like Aperture running fine on GMA950 despite the fact that Apple's installer say its not supported on that GFX card, perhaps its just Apples way of making sure that that Pro apps only run on Pro computers?
 
MacBook skins?

My first post.

I'm confused why so many people care about the MacBook's color. Won't most of us cover it completely in a skin, to protect it? If I preferred black, I'd buy a MacBook in white and cover it in a black neoprene skin.
 
deputy_doofy said:
So, out of curiosity, if I go from my PB 12" (512mb RAM, 32mb VRAM, NVidia 5200??) to a new MacBook (1gb RAM, 64mb shared video), and I play 3D games almost never, will I notice any negative issues with the graphics?
In my experience comparing my 12" PB to my Mac mini, the answer is that all you will notice is that the MacBook is noticably faster.

One example, Google Earth runs faster and smoother on my Mac mini Core Solo than it does on my 1Ghz 12" PB, and on the mini its running under Rosetta.
 
filterban said:
That's a great song, really. I am also amused that you think my World of Warcraft character has anything to do with this thread. (Just kidding.) I'm not trolling.

Not aimed at you just a Wizard of Oz reference to the great and powerful <not> Oz behind the curtain.

filterban said:
Question for you, though: Are you also mad at Nissan for charging more for its schoolbus-yellow color? (They did, at least recently.)

Could care less more power to them and Apple as well. If the public will pay for it, I say charge them as much as you possibly can. Why stop at colors? Why not charge more for different smells embedded in the paint and plastic? Everything has a price and the more intangible the better.

filterban said:
How about at Nintendo, who charged more for certain special colors for the GameCube and GBA?

See above...

filterban said:
Maybe you're upset about Motorola charging more for a special color of the RAZR?

See above

filterban said:
Perhaps you're mad at Target for charging more for special colors of clothes?

See above

filterban said:
Many companies do this because it makes business sense. Apple's not always right, and they may not even be right here - although it certainly seems that they are, seeing as how the black MacBooks have sold out nearly everywhere.

It's great. I kind of wish they had charged more. It would be interesting to see at what price point you would stop defending their exploitive pricing strategy. I am not being ironic about saying it is great because it is. I love the fact that they charge more for a color. Anyone who can get exploit the buying public with the public's own choices is doing a really bang up job of marketing and sales.

filterban said:
Asking Apple to be something other than it is - a company out to make money - is silly.

I applaud their success at what they do best in all areas of their business. Job's obviously likes black and so do I. Black ink, black turtle necks, black and blue pocket books, the whole nine yards.
 
waiting times?

Order my white macbook yesterday and I have an estimated ship date of May 23rd is this what others that ordered online have?
 
dr_lha said:
Supposedly Apple hired a bunch of Sony engineers to work on laptops. I'll admit that I too am dissappointed that they did not manage to come out with a lighter/smaller laptop.

I'm sure that these will sell well. The fact is that this is $500 cheaper than the Sony, and thats a huge difference. I personally would be prepared to pay the extra $500 for a 13" MacBook Pro that weighed 4lbs or less, but obviously Apple don't think the market will.

Hopefully, they will release some 'decent' portable laptop soon (e.g. 13.3"). I have been waiting for Macbooks for a long time, but 2.36kg is too heavy for me (currently using ibmT42 - 14" - 2.1kg)
 
I posted this question yesterday, but I don't even know what page to start looking for it so I'll ask again.

How would the 1.83 Core Duo with 512mb compare with a P4 (2 y/o dell) running at about 3 GHz with 512mb?


Also, do any of you see a reason for a 15 y/o that already has a perfectly working G5 iMac (B) to start saving for a MB? I'm looking for an excuse, but I'm having trouble.
 
dr_lha said:
In my experience comparing my 12" PB to my Mac mini, the answer is that all you will notice is that the MacBook is noticably faster.

One example, Google Earth runs faster and smoother on my Mac mini Core Solo than it does on my 1Ghz 12" PB, and on the mini its running under Rosetta.

Appreciate that info. I keep debating between the upcoming Merom MBP and the brand new (black) MacBook. Decisions, decisions....
 
Multimedia said:
Don't pay Apple for a bigger HD or extra ram. You can buy the Seagate 160 for $250.
A do-it-yourself hard drive upgrade will void the warranty, a do-it-yourself RAM upgrade won't--correct? If an upgrade voids the warranty, I assume it voids AppleCare, too? So either do it yourself OR buy AppleCare, but not both? Or would the warranty--and AppleCare--at least cover breakage of components that are clearly unrelated to my upgrade?
 
dr_lha said:
Thats really a matter of personal prefence though isn't it? I agree the MacBook is an excellent machine, but I would be happy to sacrifice some of those features to get the weight down.

I have owned a 12" PB for nearly 3 years, and the one thing I don't like about it is its weight. Previously I owned a Thinkpad X20 (about 3.1lbs) and a Sony VAIO PG505-TR (3lbs). The optical drive is obviouly the difference between these machines, but I'd personally be happier with a driveless machine that shed a few pounds as I said above.

Now take my perspective of thinking the 12" PB is a bit too heavy, and compare this to the new MacBook which is even heavier, whereas I was really hoping Apple would release a lighter laptop.

yup personal preference i would die without a drive...i guess for me its the opposite...i want a better machine...i think 5.6 pounds is reasonable you get more screen and more power..so im happy with the release!
 
andrewface said:
yup personal preference i would die without a drive...i guess for me its the opposite...i want a better machine...i think 5.6 pounds is reasonable you get more screen and more power..so im happy with the release!
Good for you!

For me, I think I can count the number of times I've used my PB's optical drive while "on the road" (i.e. somewhere I could not justifibly use an external burner) on one hand in 3 years. Pretty much the only thing I've used it for is installing the OS and burning the occassional CD to put in my car.
 
andrewface said:
yup personal preference i would die without a drive...i guess for me its the opposite...i want a better machine...i think 5.6 pounds is reasonable you get more screen and more power..so im happy with the release!

yes, i agree....better machine but around 4pounds ;)
 
frick said:
Here's a few GMA900 benchmarks... keep in mind the GMA950 is just an evolution of the GMA900 architecture and cannot be expected to be more than ~20% faster than the GMA900.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/02/08/nvidia_geforce_6200_turbocache/page16.html

Scroll to other pages in the article to see more.
There are plenty of benchmarks for the actual GMA 950 on the web if you look as well. E.g.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1821812,00.asp

All benchmarks revolve around 3D performance however, which if you're not interested in gaming is really unimportant for most tasks someone using a non-pro machine would be interested in.
 
galton1.3 said:
The lowest end of the SZ series (SZ140) is $1589 when configured with:

Core Duo 1.83 GHz
Motion Eye camera & Bluetooth
512MB DDR-SDRAM (DDR2-533, 256MB x 2)
60 GB HDD
"Combo" drive
13.3" WXGA "XBrite" LCD

It's 4.07 lbs. with 6~ hrs of battery life.

Lowest end config is $1399 for Core Solo 1.66 GHz, no camera, 40 GB HDD...

Okay, fair enough. You're paying $400 for less weight, but you're stuck with Windows and an inferior software bundle. If the size matters that much, I say go for it.
 
tny said:
(What's the biggest available drive for these, 160 GB?) now or in the future, and you can always buy a firewire external for archiving - nobody really *needs* to carry more than 120 GB of video around on a laptop. As far as connection speed, the Airport is 54 Mb/s, and the ethernet 1 Gb/s, the same as any desktop, and the processor is more than fast enough.
I like your thinking. My daughter is going off to college in August; we'll be buying her a MacBook. I was going to replace the hard drive with an aftermarket 120GB. But now that you mention it, even if she could use all that capacity, she doesn't need it everywhere she goes. I'll be buying her a 300GB-class external backup drive anyway; she can keep her complete music and video files on the backup drive, and put a fraction of them on her MacBook. Not that she'll have to: For go-everywhere music files, she'll have her 30GB iPod. I hope that her roommate has a backup drive so the two girls can backup each other's media files...

By using an external drive instead of a third-party internal drive, I can afford more storage, buy more storage per dollar, and avoid voiding my Apple warranty.
 
ccarrieta said:
Order my white macbook yesterday and I have an estimated ship date of May 23rd is this what others that ordered online have?
The status most likely says something along the lines of "estimated shipping by may 23". I ordered mine (white 2.0 with no options) yesterday morning and it shipped early this morning...

But if it's a BTO then i'm not sure how it works and you're on your own. ;)

BTW: The status on mine orignially estimated shipping by the 23rd and delivery by the 31st. The FedEx tracking now says estimated delivery around noon on Friday 5/19. :D
 
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