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Their backs?

PaulinMaryland said:
Remember that many MacBook owners will be students, who will also be toting 5 or 10 pounds of books and who-knows-what-else in their 2-pound backpack.

Not to mention redheads on their back.... on the MacBook owners back, not, well you know, not on *their* backs.
 
matticus008 said:
Students don't play computer games that much, and most of what I've seen isn't 3D intensive. 3D computer gaming on notebooks is not as ubiquitous as you believe, which might be hard to see if you and your friends are gamers.

Exactly. Have you ever tried playing a FPS with a trackpad?

It's worse than using the keyboard.

Which means you will never win a deathmatch, unless you use an external mouse. And if you use external mice with your laptop, you're using it really as a desktop.

So you should have just bought an iMac and saved yourself some bucks. :)
 
Will the real Applecare policy please stand up?

Multimedia said:
Neither voids warranty nor Applecare. Why else would Apple make it so easy for you to upgrade your hard drive yourself in the same place as you do ram?

So what's the official word on this? I don't take the above as being anything even approaching official. What would the real Aaron say?

I find it hard to imagine that Apple would warranty the system if it is running on different, non-user servicable hardware, than it was shipped with. I'd like to be wrong.
 
Gatezone said:
I want to work this one for awhile so I completely understand it. Tell me more. The red-haired sex workers demand more for the novelty of their, uh, well, their hair, and the clients pay more and love the results?
I read the article at least five years ago. The country is Israel, the redheads came from the former Soviet Union, and the clients who preferred them included both Sephardic Jews and Arabs! Actually, what was happening, as I recall, was not that the redheads were charging more, but rather, that the non-redheads had to lower their prices to compete.

About those skins? Anyone? Really. I promise I won't put them on any redheads.

I've never owned a laptop (Mac or PC), but a bit of searching turned up these option:

 
filterban said:
Exactly. Have you ever tried playing a FPS with a trackpad?

It's worse than using the keyboard.

Which means you will never win a deathmatch, unless you use an external mouse. And if you use external mice with your laptop, you're using it really as a desktop.

So you should have just bought an iMac and saved yourself some bucks. :)

I just hate it when I can't win a deathmatch.... :cool:
 
PaulinMaryland said:
I read the article at least five years ago. The country is Israel, the redheads came from the former Soviet Union, and the clients who preferred them included both Sephardic Jews and Arabs! Actually, what was happening, as I recall, was not that the redheads were charging more, but rather, that the non-redheads had to lower their prices to compete.

I thought you might be theorizing, this is interesting. Think different marketing in practice I guess. I wonder what sort of processors they had.

PaulinMaryland said:
I've never owned a laptop (Mac or PC), but a bit of searching turned up these option:


Thanks. The ebay one is a deadlink now. The macskinz don't have them yet, but I will check back. the tucano doesn't quite seem the same but I will check back with them as well.
 
Gatezone said:
So what's the official word on this? I don't take the above as being anything even approaching official. What would the real Aaron say?

I find it hard to imagine that Apple would warranty the system if it is running on different, non-user servicable hardware, than it was shipped with. I'd like to be wrong.
I just left a message with my CompUSA business rep asking him the same question. It's a given that I'll be upgrading the RAM, and most likely the hard drive as well. I don't have a problem with them doing the installations as long as it doesn't void my warranty. If we don't get an answer before I hear back from him, I'll post the response...
 
PaulinMaryland said:
Remember that many MacBook owners will be students, who will also be toting 5 or 10 pounds of books and who-knows-what-else in their 2-pound backpack.

That is why I bought my school packs from outdoor retailers. Regular school backpack seem more for style than anything, they're hardly comfortable with a "normal" load of a few textbooks. A sturdy, large day-hiking pack is so much better suited for school, including carrying around something like a MacBook :)
 
gerbilbox said:
That is why I bought my school packs from outdoor retailers. Regular school backpack seem more for style than anything, they're hardly comfortable with a "normal" load of a few textbooks. A sturdy, large day-hiking pack is so much better suited for school, including carrying around something like a MacBook :)
Only side effect being it makes you look like a nerd. ;)
 
Sims 2

Does anyone know if the Macbook will be able to play the Sims 2 or any games as intensive as it? This is basically the only thing keeping me from buying a macbook right now. How is the GPU compared to radeon 9200 (from my mac mini)? As a note, I plan on using Sims 2 using Boot Camp/Windows, not Mac.
 
dr_lha said:
Only side effect being it makes you look like a nerd. ;)

No, it would make me look like a geek. But I won't be breaking my back, I'll be comfortable...a comfortable geek :)

It would be more "nerd-ish" if it was one of those huge, rectangular backpacks.

Alex
 
Flakes R Us for $150 please

mark88 said:
I was all set to order a black one until I saw pics of the flaking paint!!!! :eek: in case you missed the post earlier http://marklem.com/mlem/?p=8

That's a $150 feature, man. A FEATURE, not an issue. Get with it.

Like everyone keeps saying what's the big deal with charging extra for the color flakes? What's the big deal with a 5.x pound 13 inch laptop, What's the big deal with dumb downed graphics? It's is all in your head, now just step away from the keyboard and go take a nap and all this will be erased from your memory.
 
An apple rep on the education site told me that upgrading the hard drive does not void the warranty and is no different WRT to the warranty than upgrading the RAM
 
PaulinMaryland said:
Try again; I was missing the h in http! I fixed it within 30 seconds but you were too quick for me.

That's me mr quick today and gone tomorrow.

These mostly look like sleeves to me vs. skins. I love skins on my other equipment but can see how they'd be a bit more challenging on a laptop. Potentially more useful though, specially with Mr. Flakey visiting the more pricey systems.

Anyone else know if there are real 'skins' like the rubberized ones everyone calls a condom on my Treo or the iPods? As long as it didn't catch your arm in it as you were putting it on the laptop it could be great. If it doesn't work you could play frisbee with the laptop and not worry about when it hits the ground. Oh, my bad, a five pound frisbee would drop like a rock. :(
 
So.. time to post my comments about what I've seen about the MacBook

Initial reaction

13.3"! Cool! Faaast! 2.0 ?! Nice price, too. What's this black compu- a blackbook? Hmm. Glossy screen? Not too sure whether I like that. SuperDrive! Huh? The black one is the high-end model? I want whiiiite! Uhm, it's only the disk? Huh, a € 150 premium for the black?

First pics coming out

The white one seemed to look ugly, but the € 150 for the black one could not be justified either. Still some mixed feelings about the glossy screen. Very excited to see that it supports screen spanning and a few other nifty features. Thought it was a bit lame that no Mini DVD -> * converters are included.

Thoughts after cooldown

I finally 'get' the design of the white one. There's the shiny white color, which is used on the outside of the unit, and on the keys, and the other non-shiny white color used on the screen borders and area around the keyboard/trackpad and such.

It's not so that only the keys have a distinct color, which is what I thought in the beginning.

The GMA doesn't look that bad. I do want to play a few games occasionally, as student, and the GMA seems to be good enough for what I want.

I still have mixed feelings about the glossy screen. It has some good points, like for a few games and the brightness/contrast, but I'm a bit worried about the reflection.


All in all, I'm -more- than satisfied and will probably get one soon.
 
Gatezone said:
That's a $150 feature, man. A FEATURE, not an issue. Get with it.

Like everyone keeps saying what's the big deal with charging extra for the color flakes? What's the big deal with a 5.x pound 13 inch laptop, What's the big deal with dumb downed graphics? It's is all in your head, now just step away from the keyboard and go take a nap and all this will be erased from your memory.

Hear hear!
Don't like it? Don't post here! :rolleyes:
 
Independent coroboration?

dialo said:
An apple rep on the education site told me that upgrading the hard drive does not void the warranty and is no different WRT to the warranty than upgrading the RAM

Can we get a Applecare rep to stand by this? Unless it comes from Apple care you're p, I mean spitting into the wind and it's likely to come back on you when you least expect it. Like I say I *want* to be wrong because I will upgrade my drive, after I paint it black.
 
If black is the best seller (which is seems), isn't it costing them more money to make the white ones. And Apple isn't hurting for money anyway. In the end of the day people will see that Apple doesn't give a **** about anything but their profit margins.:rolleyes:
Gatezone said:
Yes, it's a good thing for Apple to charge more for the black one. It cost them a lot of money over their production run to do black. It's designer black. It's cool black. It's matte finish black. Easily worth $500 more but it's a bargain at $150.

Apple is doing the best possible thing for all their customers. Their product lines couldn't be any better planned or thought out even if they tried. Their are really a fine company and they are making money which is even more important to a lot of people. Don't sweat it. Don't question it. And for heaven's sake don't expect anything more out of the great innovation company that makes such really cool commercials.

Oh, wait, what's that I see behind the curtain? A troll? My god, will you look at that.

This is hopelessly silly. Just pass the black kool-aid and Paint it Black.
 
Flake said:
Hear hear!
Don't like it? Don't post here! :rolleyes:

Hey, I love Macs. I just don't like flakes... If you like the flaking MacBook that is great news for you.

And the last thing I knew "liking" everything wasn't a requirement for posting here, anymore than having descernment or independent thinking is.
 
filterban said:
Exactly. Have you ever tried playing a FPS with a trackpad?

It's worse than using the keyboard.

Which means you will never win a deathmatch, unless you use an external mouse. And if you use external mice with your laptop, you're using it really as a desktop.

So you should have just bought an iMac and saved yourself some bucks. :)

Unless my sarcasm detector is broken, that doesn't make any sense to me. Any program (i.e. I really could care less about games) works better with a mouse than with a trackpad. I used my laptop every single day when I was at college for AutoCad and 3d rendering work. I used a mouse. That doesn't mean I should have bought a desktop- I needed that portability.
 
Gatezone said:
I kind of wish they had charged more. It would be interesting to see at what price point you would stop defending their exploitive pricing strategy.
Nobody is being exploited. There is no coercion or information asymmetry. The colour of a laptop computer makes no material difference; it is an aesthetic preference.

I would defend the strategy until it stops increasing their revenue. After that point it is no longer rational.

You should also consider that charging a premium for black makes it sensible to decrease their margins on (i.e., charge less for) the white ones. This is because the demand curve for the white model shifts when the high-budget customers are removed from consideration.

In effect, the people who care more about the colour than the money, are subsidising the people who care more about the money than the colour. Each group gets what it wants most.

Don't they teach economics in school where you come from?

Anyone who can get exploit the buying public with the public's own choices is doing a really bang up job of marketing and sales.
Every company does this, unless they are selling a commodity like bulk rice or crude oil.
 
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