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While I don't beleive this rumor..... Or if it is a "New Macbook" then they may be "getting" a new deisgn and the have not officially shipped to them yet...

anyway - on the "slight" chance this is true, I say yeah bring it on. while I am not in the market for a macbook, I know several people who are - but the current pricing it too steep for them.

Average price of a PC laptop is $600-$800 depending on specs, so I say that would be nice for a mac and I would be kicking myself for buying back in April.
 
Just a rant from a soon to be mac user :p

And there it was: The crux of your post. Talk to us about all the "splendor" of Apple's products in a year. Until then you're simply just repeating fanboy-speak.
 
pc and mac costs. It is about features. I have had a few hp laptops both have had the power adapter broken from the motherboard. To fix it, the motherboard is replaced. Sometimes you can buy the part on ebay and solder it back on and that may or may not work. I have tried this twice and have never gotten it to work. This is also not covered by accidental damage coverage. The mag safe adapter will not allow this to happen so that feature to me is worth $300 to $500( the cost of another motherboard).

That just adds to a previous post about all the "little things" macs have that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside:D.
 
i've been reading about windows 7 and it seems like it is the OS made by a Microsoft that got its act together to accomplish something good.

that is why i am thinking of just buying a mac soon and then waiting for windows 7 to buy any windows product.

that's what i'm probably going to do.

as a mac fanboy, i am anticipating windows 7 after reading about it on blogs and such.
 
I really like this idea,
it makes sense for a few reasons

a) why update your low end notebooks before high end, that'll leave the top end of the market dead in the water
b) it would make the whole line up a lot simpler, the whole "pro" thing just doesn't seem relevant any more. It's just small additions/omissions on each model which make the difference between the two.
c) if they're changing the macbooks to have a alu casing like the pro does, then this would surely make the lineup almost like "one" product. And like you said, leaves room for a possible tablet device. Having 4 portable options (air, pro, mb and tablet) would seem a bit excessive.

Who knows, only the Jobs knows.

I had a similar thouht with the exception that I think Apple would get rid of the "Air" instead of the "Pro".

The "Air" could become the new MacBook with a lower price entry level (actually the same 999 $) while justifying a higher price for the MacBook Pro.
 
Average price of a PC laptop is $600-$800 depending on specs, so I say that would be nice for a mac and I would be kicking myself for buying back in April.

that is why apple was giving out free ipods with macbook purchases. So that customers would kick themselves less harder when cheaper macbooks come out in the future.
 
And there it was: The crux of your post. Talk to us about all the "splendor" of Apple's products in a year. Until then you're simply just repeating fanboy-speak.

Quite right.

I bought my Macbook little more than a year ago. I know most everything about it, and there's quite a few things I don't like much.
 
I had a similar thouht with the exception that I think Apple would get rid of the "Air" instead of the "Pro".

The "Air" could become the new MacBook with a lower price entry level (actually the same 999 $) while justifying a higher price for the MacBook Pro.

I sure hope not.

The Macbook is already too thin and too hot. We don't want it even thinner and hotter! For the average consumer, what does thin accomplish? The MBA has a definite market. The Macbook's market is totally different. And would Apple really sell a MBA for $999? We're talking about Apple, you know. Infamous for charging as much as they can get away with.
 
And there it was: The crux of your post. Talk to us about all the "splendor" of Apple's products in a year. Until then you're simply just repeating fanboy-speak.
:confused: so i have to actually own the product to have a valid opinion on it? Thats funny, ive been following the mac world for over a year and a half now and have literally hundreds of hours of hands on experience with both old and new products that friends/family/ frequent visits to the apple store. I'm not just speaking out of my ass kind sir, my opinion is just as valid as that guys about the greatness of the dell/hp/w.e it was.

I do EXTENSIVE research on products I buy, as I did with my touch (that i had every intention of jailbreaking the second i got it). I am a nerd, i love technology, and 90% of the time i have a very thorough understanding of what im talking about. The other 10% i choose not to speak, because i realize i dont have the facts.

Please do not belittle me simply because i have insufficient funds to buy a mac currently. My opinions are just as valid as yours.
 
I had a similar thouht with the exception that I think Apple would get rid of the "Air" instead of the "Pro".

The "Air" could become the new MacBook with a lower price entry level (actually the same 999 $) while justifying a higher price for the MacBook Pro.

No way. The entry-level Macbook is targeted at a completely different market segment than the Macbook Air.
 
Personally the debat PC vs MAC is completly futile...

You want a Dell, HP, Acer, Sony, Asus, Whatever... just go for it! Period :)
You want a Mac, just go for it!

I'm writing this post from my Dell Laptop and I seriously hope buy a new MacBook (MBP?) the next month and it doesn't mean I will not buy a Dell Mini 9 or HP mini-note...

Is it better or worst? Who cares? I'm not a pro Apple... I just do what I think is good for me and for what I need, I'm ready to pay for and I want.

So if you're just a Mac hater... please, go troll on another place! It's "MacRumors" here...

About the Hardware comparison... there's none! Of course the current MBP is totally burned if we compare with a new laptop from another PC makers.

And that's why we all expect a new version... and if Apple release the new MBP with a Quad Core, even at $2999 it will be a great deal, because it will be just $400 more expensive than potential quad-core laptop... And Leopard + iLife + iWork is worth than $400.

But of course, after months, PC Makers will come with new version (because there's new version every single day!!) and then the MBP will be a less good deal for few months and then Apple will 'speed bump" it, etc..etc...

And even thought it's more expensive... what's the deal? If it's too expensive, you don't like it, or you want something else... nobody force you... we're on a marvelous world of freedom! And as a consumer, our power is the wallet... if you don't like a brand, a product, or anything else... just DON'T BUY IT. It's to the everyone's appreciation to estimate "how worth their system is...". And I mean a system... I mean I complete set of Hardware+Software+Services...

Anyone can find a better deal somewhere else... and anyone can find a perfect example to convince themselves...

I recall having bought the more expensive PC Desktop never made when I bought my Pentium 133 MHz (something like $5K). And guest what? It took 2 weeks to have the parts, mount it, install the OS, etc... and when everything was done, the Pentium 150 MHz was just announced and released... and yes, my brand new system was not the more powerful system anymore...

What's the point? There's no end in the "Who has the bigger... " game.

The Today's Smallers will be the Tomorrow's Bigger... and vice versa.

I don't regret this purchase because I did it well at this moment... and I was pretty happy with this setup for great moment. And if you wait for something better, you will also never buy anything.

So, have fun with the piece of gear you like better, enjoy it, be sure you did the best choice for yourself and don't try to convince that's the best choice for everyone... whatever what you use :)

my 2 cents,
Spid
 
Then what you've been reading must only be from the UI perspective. Windows 7 will be Vista underneath. Do you think they would write a new OS from scratch in only 2-3 years? Now that would be a buggy mess.

damn... from what i've been reading... windows 7 was sounding like a revolution. Like something real MS was making to actually counter the rise of OS X.

I figured windows 7 would have to be good because MS finally has some competition.

if windows 7 is vista underneath... i'll probably stay with macbooks.

i'll try to find some criticism of windows 7 because it seems that all i've been reading is windows fanboy blogs!
 
Guys, go to dell or HP's sites and build a workstation laptop. Put Vista Ultimate (to match Leopard) and MS Office basic (to match iLife) in an and then match all the hardware features. If its more than $100 less than a Macbook Pro I'll shoot myself. Plus you're not getting a webcam or a backlit keyboard. And you laptop will be ugly as f@#k and weigh 3 or 4 pounds more. **** Apple is more expensive.
MS Office doesn't match iLife, it matches iWork, which is not included in a MacBook Pro. Vista Ultimate is basically Business + Home Premium, which, unless you own a business, is worthless.

MacBook Pro
2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB memory
250GB
Double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB
15-inch 1440x900
WebCam (standard)
5.4lbs
$2,499.00

HP dv5t
2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3GB Memory
320GB
Blu-Ray with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
15-inch 1680x1050
WebCam (standard)
5.83lbs
$1,702.99

Get your gun ready :)
 
MS Office doesn't match iLife, it matches iWork, which is not included in a MacBook Pro. Vista Ultimate is basically Business + Home Premium, which, unless you own a business, is worthless.

MacBook Pro
2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB memory
250GB
Double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 512MB
15-inch 1440x900
WebCam (standard)
5.4lbs
$2,499.00

HP dv5t
2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3GB Memory
320GB
Blu-Ray with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
15-inch 1680x1050
WebCam (standard)
5.83lbs
$1,702.99


Thank you very much. Now try the 17" intel-based HP versus the 17" MBP. The price difference is even more noticeable.

EDIT: The 17" HP is called the dv7t. And it's $1200 cheaper than the 17" MBP for the same specs plus Blu-ray in the HP (which the MBP doesn't have).
 
:confused: so i have to actually own the product to have a valid opinion on it? Thats funny, ive been following the mac world for over a year and a half now and have literally hundreds of hours of hands on experience with both old and new products that friends/family/ frequent visits to the apple store. I'm not just speaking out of my ass kind sir, my opinion is just as valid as that guys about the greatness of the dell/hp/w.e it was.
If this was about features, I'd agree with you.
But we're talking build quality and OS-bugs. I really think one should own a Mac before praising it and Apple.


I do EXTENSIVE research on products I buy, as I did with my touch (that i had every intention of jailbreaking the second i got it). I am a nerd, i love technology, and 90% of the time i have a very thorough understanding of what im talking about. The other 10% i choose not to speak, because i realize i dont have the facts.
I too do extensive research on everything. Hence the reason I'm not going anywhere near the Touch and the iPhone (they lack even something as basic as Disk Mode (USB Mass Storage)), but also because I have been a Mac user for around twenty years now, and have experienced the quality dwindle, have seen the number of bugs grow and have experienced the continous "bloating" of the OS, all the while fanboys regurgitate something that were true, say, five years ago.

Please do not belittle me simply because i have insufficient funds to buy a mac currently. My opinions are just as valid as yours.
First off, I'm not belittling anyone.
Secondly, I'm not replying to you in the manner I do because you don't have the money for a Mac – I couldn't care less in that – as I mentioned earlier (it's a huge thread, so I don't expect you to have noticed), I'm moving on to Thinkpad next. It's better quality, Lenovo has better service (at least here, where we have to deal with Apple Europe), they have better specs, a better keyboard, better screens, more resolution and, surprise, they're even a tad cheaper than the "equivalent" Mac.

Thirdly: I don't think you regurgitating fanboyish opinions make your opinion as valid as mine on this matter. Yes, you can call me arrogant if you so wish :p
 
:confused: so i have to actually own the product to have a valid opinion on it? Thats funny, ive been following the mac world for over a year and a half now and have literally hundreds of hours of hands on experience with both old and new products that friends/family/ frequent visits to the apple store. I'm not just speaking out of my ass kind sir, my opinion is just as valid as that guys about the greatness of the dell/hp/w.e it was.
I'm sorry, but going to the Apple store and playing with friends computers is just not a representative of real-world experience. Its nice and all, but its just not the same.

I do EXTENSIVE research on products I buy, as I did with my touch (that i had every intention of jailbreaking the second i got it). I am a nerd, i love technology, and 90% of the time i have a very thorough understanding of what im talking about. The other 10% i choose not to speak, because i realize i dont have the facts.
That's good. I'm the same way (except the 10% part... sometimes...)

Please do not belittle me simply because i have insufficient funds to buy a mac currently. My opinions are just as valid as yours.
He's just saying, its hard to accurately judge a product until you need actually own it. No belittling involved. :D
 
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