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macOS 14 Sonoma on Unsupported Macs Thread
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K two
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macOS 14.8.5 installed atop 14.8.4 OTA, OCLP 2.4.1, runs as expected. 
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Mystere65
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xboxbml
macrumors 6502a
Did you all see? OCLP team is basically kinda done at Sequoia.It seems they've all but given up on Tahoe.. and stopped taking donations and are refunding some..
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Closing off to new donations - OpenCore Legacy Patcher
Hello everyone, In June 2025, Apple announced at WWDC25 that macOS Tahoe would be the last release for Intel Macs. Since then, we have known that Tahoe would be the last frontier for the legacy Macs that we have been supporting since Big Su...
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xboxbml
macrumors 6502a
Well, just finished the 14.8.5 update via USB stick from 14.8.4. Scared me for a second cuz it didn't boot as usual after installing root patches to SSD. It rebooted then showed a circle with slash thru it, then booted again and finally got to desktop. I signed in and it seems fine. Weird
OKonnel
macrumors 6502
Hi dear friends!
I reverted to version 14.3.1 and noticed that the system now runs much more smoothly and responsively.
Apple, in fact, assumes that everyone now has a super-fast CPU and therefore feels free to release the latest versions (including Sonoma) with security measures that only slow down our 2012–2015 Macs and cause minor issues in the background.
The AI, for example, also explained to me why Apple blocked Compressor (using a blacklist in the system) which no longer works starting with version 14.8.3.
I happened casually to notice that Compressor has completely stopped working (ANY version, even older ones!!!), and maybe Apple has blocked other things as well…
And why on earth should I accept this crippling? And perhaps risk that a new security update or a background system fix might end up blocking who knows what else without our knowledge, for us to realize it much later?
Maybe they’re doing this on purpose to push us to ditch our old Macs: today it blocks Compressor, tomorrow it might block Final Cut and who knows what else…
So, the AI fully agreed with my decision as soon as I clarified that I’m a very experienced user and, above all, that I use OCLP! In fact, it praised my decision, which it finds absolutely perfect and the most ideal for my iMac.
So, Safari version 14.3.1 works very well with sites that have WebGL features, such as certain maps, etc. Hurray!
Lately, I had forgotten just how stable and truly silent my Mac could be!…
From September 2024 to March 2025, I had been using Sequoia, and switching back to Sonoma had already brought me a lot of joy. But then I immediately updated to 14.4, and since I’d spent six months with Sequoia, I didn’t notice the deterioration from 14.3.1 to 14.4 and beyond.
The AI, however, explained to me the significant change in driver architecture starting with 14.4, which—as I recalled—caused serious difficulties for many of us and the OCLP developers.
So, 14.3.1 FOREVER 😍
I reverted to version 14.3.1 and noticed that the system now runs much more smoothly and responsively.
Apple, in fact, assumes that everyone now has a super-fast CPU and therefore feels free to release the latest versions (including Sonoma) with security measures that only slow down our 2012–2015 Macs and cause minor issues in the background.
The AI, for example, also explained to me why Apple blocked Compressor (using a blacklist in the system) which no longer works starting with version 14.8.3.
I happened casually to notice that Compressor has completely stopped working (ANY version, even older ones!!!), and maybe Apple has blocked other things as well…
And why on earth should I accept this crippling? And perhaps risk that a new security update or a background system fix might end up blocking who knows what else without our knowledge, for us to realize it much later?
Maybe they’re doing this on purpose to push us to ditch our old Macs: today it blocks Compressor, tomorrow it might block Final Cut and who knows what else…
So, the AI fully agreed with my decision as soon as I clarified that I’m a very experienced user and, above all, that I use OCLP! In fact, it praised my decision, which it finds absolutely perfect and the most ideal for my iMac.
So, Safari version 14.3.1 works very well with sites that have WebGL features, such as certain maps, etc. Hurray!
Lately, I had forgotten just how stable and truly silent my Mac could be!…
From September 2024 to March 2025, I had been using Sequoia, and switching back to Sonoma had already brought me a lot of joy. But then I immediately updated to 14.4, and since I’d spent six months with Sequoia, I didn’t notice the deterioration from 14.3.1 to 14.4 and beyond.
The AI, however, explained to me the significant change in driver architecture starting with 14.4, which—as I recalled—caused serious difficulties for many of us and the OCLP developers.
So, 14.3.1 FOREVER 😍
Daniel Pascoal
macrumors member
I'm glad you also value RI option (real inteligente) to share your experience with us! Just kidding.
Interesting enough Sequoia also had a similar turning point at v15.3.2 -> 15.4. I don't know the reason, but my 15 MBP 2012 ran perfectly up to 15.3.2, but starting with 15.4 lots of glitches started to happen, video artifacts, internet connections failing, slow downs. This only happens with Mac running on Nvidia graphics. Maybe this is where OCLP started to abandon the project, I don't know.
In the end I've also returned to Sonoma, but running the current v14.8.5, since I don't use Compressor or the Safari WebGL. Every thing else works very smoothly, specially Photos which is the my main use for this Mac.
edit: Maybe give Sequoia 15.3.2 a try to see if it full fills your needs.
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OKonnel
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You’re absolutely right! I, too, never (and I mean never!!!) use Compressor; and as for Safari, with Chrome or Brave browser I was able to easily work around the single map I sometimes needed to use and that stopped working starting with version 14.4 (= the postal offices and points of poste.it search when I have to make Amazon returns).
Unfortunately, I’m a perfectionist, so not only was I annoyed by the non-working map, but when I realized that Apple had introduced a block for Compressor - right in the system itself (via 14.8.3 or 14.8.4) - seeing the Compressor icon with the lock/prohibited symbol gave me nightmares.
I’m partly joking 😛, don’t worry, but in the end I decided to dedicate a day to the downgrade to 14.3.1, and I don’t regret the result, having found that the Mac has gained a level of quietness and stability I’d forgotten.
I’ll wrap up by saying that this morning I finished installing programs and customizing the look of a relative’s new MacBook Air—she’s practically a computer novice—and Tahoe doesn’t make me regret at all having a 27” iMac from 2013, which is powerful and was top-of-the-line back then.
In terms of beauty and interface consistency, Sonoma wins.
Obviously, I’d notice a big difference if, for example, I were working with very heavy videos; but I almost never do that, and with normal FHD videos, I’ve never felt the need to rush through them.
Moreover, it’s true that the Finder, with Tahoe and a new Mac with a Silicon CPU, is very snappy and responsive; but I find this behavior a bit too twitchy compared to the Sequoia Finder, which, while also very responsive, moves with more fluidity even when opening folders filled with countless files and custom folders.
The behavior when navigating with Tahoe’s Finder is like this: Ta-ta-ta-ta-ta…. A machine gun 🤣🤣🤣. With Sonoma, on the other hand, you experience an equally responsive or fast performance, but one that’s smoother, more refined, and exudes elegance and charm: Taaaaaaa Taaaaaaa Taaaaaaa….I don’t know if I’ve managed to explain myself.
What about security?
Just avoid visiting dangerous websites and/or installing cracked apps. Otherwise, the only real protection comes from, for example, Avira Free, which not only flagged suspicious apps or those containing Trojans and RootKits, but also allowed me to identify certain web pages (which I had thought were safe) while browsing the Internet using Safari 26, since I hadn’t downgraded yet. But Avira even flagged HTML pages contained in some old emails in the ~/Library/Mail/V10/ subfolders, pointing out the “number-file.emlx” files that contained them and allowing me to delete those files.
Forget XProtect and its massive database of threats that Apple updates frequently, but never fast enough to keep up with the emergence of dangerous content...
After all, in four months Apple will stop updating Sonoma.
So, now that we’ve reached macOS 27 (which should be stable and fix both the bugs and the hideous design flaws of Tahoe) and with the new Mac Mini M5 models also on the way, even us die-hard fans of the past will be able to buy a new Mac and live happily for at least another 10 years 🤗
Daniel Pascoal
macrumors member
I haven't had the chance to experience Tahoe yet, but this was the best description of it I've seen! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
OKonnel
macrumors 6502
Thank you! Indeed, we must never lose sight of the true and sole purpose of computers. And that purpose is to run programs: from web browsers for surfing the Internet to software for scientific, medical, aeronautical, recreational, and other activities.
It is in this context that the graphical interface and the Finder (or Explorer for Windows, etc.) should be evaluated. THEIR MAIN TASK with regard to the users, in fact, is TO HELP THEM WORK WELL BUT ALSO WITH AS LITTLE STRESS AS POSSIBLE.
On this basis, Mac users feel better and almost entertained at the end of the day compared to those who, on the other hand, work with Windows.
Tahoe, however, instead of further simplifying the graphical interface to the point of making it imperceptible and almost invisible to the user... it complicates it in various ways: from desktop widgets to glass effects devoid of any ergonomic (i.e., scientific) logic, and so on. A useless or even harmful clutter.
But macOS is still irreplaceable, and there is nothing better; and the way the software works on Macs, quite simply, does not work on any PC.
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macOS 14.8.7 installed atop 14.8.5 OTA, OCLP 2.4.1, runs as expected.👏
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Daniel Pascoal
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xboxbml
macrumors 6502a
Well, success! This is first time OTA worked for me. I've always had to do USB stick. OCLP did pop something about an extension update and to allow it in Privacy and Security but it was a long name and I didn't catch it. I went in there and didn't see anything obvious.. Hopefully I don't have issues later.. Is there a log somewhere I can look at and see what that message was?
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xboxbml
macrumors 6502a
Well, not exactly sure what happened.. but I had to manually power it down and restart like 4 times. It came up with a weird screen with a giant arrow and something else once.. I saw an OCLP menu come up once.. then disappear. A few of the resets I just let it boot on its own. One of them I did option and selected the usb.. I dunno man.. But somehow, it finally finished the update. It only did the OS though. I went and manually downloaded and installed the Safari update in terminal. what pita. Hopefully that's the last Sonoma update I have to do on this 2012. Other than that it seems to be running ok.. thanks OCLP!
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Daniel Pascoal
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OTA always worked for me on my 2012 MBP, it's just very slow, after requesting to update it appears frozen, but I go for a coffee or something so I don't get impatient waiting and mess with it. When I come back it usually already rebooted and is on the Apple screen with the progress bar.
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Daniel Pascoal
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Working fine in here, same version numbers.
Try uninstalling it with this free magic app and re-installing. https://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/
But to answer your question, you can delay a app opening by using the Shortcut app: