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macOS 26: All The Little Things

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Cape Dave said:
If they would just make the three colored dots bigger that would have solved 75% of the problems. And do not anyone tell me to use a keyboard. My hand is ALREADY on the mouse, why should I move it? One needs a damn electron microscope to access those effing dots F U Apple! I'll say it again, NO MAJOR change was/is necessary. It is all make work BS. Reeks of "big brother knows best".
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Reading this before I updated to Tahoe beta, I was worried that they made the dots much smaller.

However they are at least the same size, if not larger (they definitely look bolder).

I bought my first Mac a couple years ago, I still use Windows daily and like it well enough, I've used Linux for years and like it also (if not the ecosystem), and I use Chromebook periodically.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the size of the dots in Mac. I honestly don't see a usability difference vs Windows, except that they (of course!) are on the opposite side.
 
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Does anyone have a large Notes database (a few thousand records with images and attachments) and if so, how is it performing on Tahoe?

I know that people had complained about lags with a large database before. Also moving data from Onenote to Notes was a PITA.

Now that it's much easier to do, I am curious whether it's worth the effort.
 
SnowCrocodile said:
Reading this before I updated to Tahoe beta, I was worried that they made the dots much smaller.

However they are at least the same size, if not larger (they definitely look bolder).

I bought my first Mac a couple years ago, I still use Windows daily and like it well enough, I've used Linux for years and like it also (if not the ecosystem), and I use Chromebook periodically.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the size of the dots in Mac. I honestly don't see a usability difference vs Windows, except that they (of course!) are on the opposite side.
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Then you are not paying attention. The active area around the Windows X, etc is 5 times larger than the dot. Which has NO ACTIVE AREA AROUND IT. A real pain in the A** to get the pointer precisely in the effing dot. It is a passive aggressive UI/UX and it sucks hard and nothing that anyone can ever say on this forum will ever change my mind even a little bit. It is horrendously poor UI/UX. End of story. It is a somewhat rare case where Windows got it 100% right, and Apple got it 100% wrong. The fact that some apple exec has not said, Hey, this is from the dinosaur age of the Interwebs, let's fix it! is truly scary.
 
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Cape Dave said:
Then you are not paying attention. The active area around the Windows X, etc is 5 times larger than the dot. Which has NO ACTIVE AREA AROUND IT. A real pain in the A** to get the pointer precisely in the effing dot. It is a passive aggressive UI/UX and it sucks hard and nothing that anyone can ever say on this forum will ever change my mind even a little bit. It is horrendously poor UI/UX. End of story. It is a somewhat rare case where Windows got it 100% right, and Apple got it 100% wrong. The fact that some apple exec has not said, Hey, this is from the dinosaur age of the Interwebs, let's fix it! is truly scary.
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I am certainly paying attention to how I use the systems. I do not see any major usability differences in the system window controls between three OS’s that I used on a daily basis for years. I always click in the center of the icon when I want to minimize or maximize a window, and never had an issue missing it. Of course you may be more sensitive to this. But seems that it’s not a typical problem for most people.
 
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SnowCrocodile said:
I am certainly paying attention to how I use the systems. I do not see any major usability differences in the system window controls between three OS’s that I used on a daily basis for years. I always click in the center of the icon when I want to minimize or maximize a window, and never had an issue missing it. Of course you may be more sensitive to this. But seems that it’s not a typical problem for most people.
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It is such an easy fix for us who notice things like this. Just do what Windows did. INCREASE the active AROUND the effing little baby toy cartoonish dot that may have been cool back when blinking text was cool but never since.
 
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Cape Dave said:
It is such an easy fix for us who notice things like this. Just do what Windows did. INCREASE the active AROUND the effing little baby toy cartoonish dot that may have been cool back when blinking text was cool but never since.
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doesn't seem any different than it's been for years. have you considered using command-w, and command-m? an easy workaround (as it seems unlikely apple will resize the buttons)...
 
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also it does seem feasable to separate areas with different functionality clearly - so you do not close when you want to minimize, etc..
But as others have pointed out, there are options when one is confronted with fine motor ical problems clicking window decorations. From keyboard shortcuts to the zoom function, Apple has you covered.
 
fisherking said:
doesn't seem any different than it's been for years. have you considered using command-w, and command-m? an easy workaround (as it seems unlikely apple will resize the buttons)...
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A man can dream. Apple is all about recycling and accessibility for all and inclusivity and all for one et etc etc. However, why they continue to not fix this horrendous UI/UX issue that speaks directly to accessibility is beyond me. ESPECIALLY as it would take a programmer like an hour on a very bad day to fix this. My hand is ALREADY on the mouse and I do not feel like using the keyboard. That answers that concern. Do it like Windows does it with a LARGE easy ACCESSIBLE active area and the whole entire issue/problem is 100% completely solved forever.
 
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Cape Dave said:
A man can dream. Apple is all about recycling and accessibility for all and inclusivity and all for one et etc etc. However, why they continue to not fix this horrendous UI/UX issue that speaks directly to accessibility is beyond me. ESPECIALLY as it would take a programmer like an hour on a very bad day to fix this. My hand is ALREADY on the mouse and I do not feel like using the keyboard. That answers that concern. Do it like Windows does it with a LARGE easy ACCESSIBLE active area and the whole entire issue/problem is 100% completely solved forever.
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there's not much on this forum (or online) about this, i don't think it's a problem for many. but... do you have a second hand? (seriously, am asking). you can close, quit, minimize with simple key commands with that other hand (if you have one, of course).

honestly, tho, i find it as easy as it's been for years to click on a given dot...
 
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fisherking said:
there's not much on this forum (or online) about this, i don't think it's a problem for many. but... do you have a second hand? (seriously, am asking). you can close, quit, minimize with simple key commands with that other hand (if you have one, of course).

honestly, tho, i find it as easy as it's been for years to click on a given dot...
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That's OK. We agree to disagree. Those who know, know. It is just WRONG from a UI/UX accessibility viewpoint. Use Windows for a week. Then tell me how fun it was to use a current, modern UI/UX to close a window with your mouse. And have fun going backwards after that :) There are some on these forums that see my point. It will not save the world, but it would substantially improve UI/UX for MacOS. More than you would think. I am early 70's. But I kinda hated the circles even when I was MUCH younger. They just seem so toyish and put there for some sort of grade school effect, not something that is properly usable, and well thought out from a modern UI/UX point of view. Wrap a square of ACTIVE AREA around those circles, and problem is solved, and they still get to keep their grade school colored circles. Win/win.
 
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