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I had a feeling this would be the case. Instead of just having a big bezel around the camera, create a notch, use the area around it for the menubar, otherwise hide it from the user. Basically a win-win.
 
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well, look at that - who would have thought??? :rolleyes:
Notch haters, get on with life, it's going to stay for years to come
Don't bet too much on that one. It only exists at all because the 1080p tech doesn't fit behind such a thin screen.... yet.
 
I hope they add a setting to show it as it would be a big improvement over the current system of having to put your cursor at the top of the screen for a second to get the menu bar to drop down. I'd rather always see it.
 
Face ID on a MacBook is a waste of time because to authenticate an unlock or purchase you need the user to press a button... a button such as the one with Touch ID already in it.

That combined with the fact that many of us like to cover our cameras with a sticker means Touch ID is the better option all around. Not sure why people are so upset that MacBooks don't have Face ID.
Don't be so unimaginative. It would detect the screen being lifted, or you could simply tap the touch pad, of which both cases work exactly like that in older MBP's, and then the face detect would kick in.
 
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Nobody would have moaned if the bezel was slightly bigger with no camera notch. Apple knew this would polarise people. They purposely amend features in stages to give people more of a reason to upgrade again and again (just like the small incremental changes they have in each iPhone). You know for a fact that there won't be a notch at some point in the future.
I shall be waiting for that day.
 
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Please, explain to me how you can validate that when there is NO iOS notch less option for the sales to be compared against?

I'd like filling a car sales lot with automatics, making people have to custom order a manual if they want it, but wait 3-4 months of delivery, and then bragging about how automatics out sale manuals, and clearly people don't care about manuals.
Back in 2017, they sold the iPhone 8/8+ alongside the iPhone X.
All three phones had the exact same processor, mostly the same camera, same new features with new glass back, same new wireless charging, Pretty much the only difference was that the 8/8+ Had a big forehead and home button, and the X had uniform bezels with a notch, and was also an extra $200-300.
And guess which phone sold more? Guess which phone people were willing to spend over $1000 on? Guess which phone had the highest satisfaction ratings at the time? Guests which design Apple has decided to continue with on their flagships after getting such a positive reception?
Hint: it’s notch The one you want it to be.
And that was on the iPhone, where the notch actually does have a major possibility of cutting into your content. Here on the MacBook, it does not, it literally only breaks, interacts with, and or has any affect on the menu bar. Everything else is placed beneath it, can’t interact with it, and has no affect on it.
So yeah, not a big deal at all other than to Internet complainers.
There’s a reason why the new MacBook Pro is already pushed into December for most configurations
 
So it’s a 14 inch Macbook that reverts to a 13 inch when you‘re actually using it.
Nope. It’s a 14.2 inch MacBook that goes down to a 14.0 inch screen when you’re in fullscreen mode, unless you go into the system preferences and enable the menu bar in full screen apps, a new feature in Monterey, and then the 14.2 inches is fully utilized
 
If anything, this makes full-screen mode even better than before. I dislike how the menubar pushes down in full-screen mode, today. Now that there's a dedicated space for it, I hope it can just appear and disappear (or optionally stay visible) in full-screen mode without pushing into the window content.
Yes, Monterey gives the option for the menu bar to always stay visible.
And, when it’s visible in full screen, it turns dark.
 
Why are there so many people here with no logic at all!? Just rant about notch without sensible arguments and haven’t done any research either before comment. You lose almost nothing at all from that notch compare to previous generation beside aesthetics. What Apple do with the notch is the most sensible choice.
 
Why are there so many people here with no logic at all!? Just rant about notch without sensible arguments and haven’t done any research either before comment. You lose almost nothing at all from that notch compare to previous generation beside aesthetics. What Apple do with the notch is the most sensible choice.
Sensible would imply less complexity, and apple has shown us how the substrate needs to be curved and curled in order to form a notch. Sensible would imply no notch at all.
 
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Don't be so unimaginative. It would detect the screen being lifted, or you could simply tap the touch pad, of which both cases work exactly like that in older MBP's, and then the face detect would kick in.
I think he was talking more about things like Apple Pay or password verification, where currently on the iPad Pro and iPhone, you have to verify that you’re trying to do that by double clicking the side button.
Something similar would obviously be implemented on the Mac, so you don’t accidentally purchase things just by having your face shown, which pretty much defeats the purpose of the convenience of face ID.
If I have to double click a button already to verify that I actually want face ID to verify me for a purchase, best just use touch ID anyway since my finger is already there.
For the record, I’m not saying that Face ID shouldn’t ever come to a Mac, but I could understand why it hasn’t yet.
I would personally want both, Face ID for unlocking my Mac and password autofill, and touch ID for making purchases and giving administrator verification
 
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I'd like to see how multitasking between many apps/windows in full screen does you any good? You need to swipe completely between screens, on top of that, your dock is gone along with your menu bar all in an effort just to save a few vertical pixels.

Pointless.
Not pointless at all. I use full screen between multiple applications and on my primary desktop I have windows open, too. Full screen offers greater focus opportunity and that's how I utilize it.
 
Sensible would imply less complexity, and apple has shown us how the substrate needs to be curved and curled in order to form a notch. Sensible would imply no notch at all.
But they did didn’t they? The windows area is still 16:10. Nothing obstructs your productivity or entertainment area.
 
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