Different things? Yes. Unrelated things? No. If Apple's QA were truly awful people would vote with their wallets and not buy Apple.Two different things.
Different things? Yes. Unrelated things? No. If Apple's QA were truly awful people would vote with their wallets and not buy Apple.Two different things.
It's a fact. Tim Apple says there are more important things to care about.Is it my imagination or has quality control been on a downhill slide over the last few years at Apple?
I agree. Can people stop using the term bricked?So they aren’t really bricked then, if you can recover them.
I had the same issue with 3 out of 4 virtual machines. Luckily I have snapshots and backups. If you ever find a solution, let me know!Not sure what happened but this update failed concurrently on two of my Macs, neither with LB replacements.
One, my personal MacBook — 16" 2021 M1 Max. The other, my work MBP, 13" 2018 Intel (4 port).
Started upgrade of both at the same time, made dinner, came back, both stuck on the Apple progress bar screen. No movement after one additional hour, no time estimate. Hard reboot of both, same issue.
Followed Apple's guidelines:
- Boot into recovery, disk check, reboot. Failed.
- Boot into recovery, reinstall. Reinstall failed.
- Boot into external drive with macOS 12.3 installer. Reinstall failed.
- Revive firmware from other Mac. Reinstall macOS. Reinstall failed.
Only resolve I had for both machines was to nuke via the DFU "Restore" method. Luckily had Time Machine backups for both from that day.
No idea what went wrong and why both failed.
Everything will work great until software update xxx.xxx fails and leaves your car bricked.I can't wait for their car.
The Dev used the term when he reported his predicament. Brick is usually associated with something that is electronically inoperative and can't be undone. Consider this a instance of not looking at what you can do DFU wise going back to a older MacOS, instead of trying to reinstall the same MacOS 12.3 that messed him up. Yep lack of experience with something like this, but we always learn from our mistakes.I agree. Can people stop using the term bricked?
Different things? Yes. Unrelated things? No. If Apple's QA were truly awful people would vote with their wallets and not buy Apple.
My mac got bricked and got it back today. Tried updating it and it won't update. I sent it in for repair after spilling water on it back in January. Glad to hear it isn't just me!
The latest macOS Monterey update, released to the public this week, is bricking Macs that have had their logic boards replaced, causing panic among customers who are unable to get their Mac back to a working state, according to a cluster of user reports posted on social media and Apple's support forums.
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Apple this week released macOS Monterey 12.3, which among other things, brought Universal Control to users. Sadly, not all users are being able to experience Universal Control or the latest update at all.
As chronicled on an Apple Developer forum thread, users who attempt to update their Mac to macOS 12.3 from macOS 12.2.1 or earlier are met with errors, endless restart loops, and possibly a bricked Mac. The reports are limited to just Macs that have had their logic boards replaced, specifically new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros.
According to the reports, there are two possible outcomes users are facing. Either a Mac becomes bricked and unusable, or a Mac finishes the update process and reboots but doesn't update and displays an "iBoot Panic" message.
A thread on Reddit by users also reports similar issues. "When I attempt to upgrade to 12.3 on a 2021 M1 14 inch macbook, the entire download and then upgrade sequence completes (30 or 40 minutes in upgrade sequence) and when it reboots has not upgraded and is still on 12.2.1," one user said.
In the case the Mac does not boot up after the update sequences, users must put their Mac into DFU and revive it manually. This process, however, requires users to have a second compatible Mac to revive their bricked Mac. As many customers only have one Mac, or no compatible Mac to use Apple Configurator with, they're forced to head to the Apple Store for assistance.
Even a trip to the Apple Store, however, will result in staff likely replacing the already faulty logic board with another logic board, putting users in an endless loop until the bug is patched. Users are generally reporting mixed results when trying to put their Mac into DFU mode, but one user on Reddit has offered some advice:
There are also reports on the MacRumors Forum, with one user saying, "I cannot install macOS 12.3 in any way: direct upgrade, install via App Store, Recovery Mode, DFU Restore, all failed. All versions before macOS 12.3 works. I have to download IPSW for macOS 12.2 to use it." Apple does offer IPSW files for macOS updates, but as stated above, that process requires a second Mac to install onto the bricked Mac.
Apple has instructions for how to revive an Apple silicon Mac here and an Intel-based Mac instructions can be found here. Apple has so far not commented or acknowledged the specific issue bricking Macs attempting to update to macOS 12.3, but we've reached out to Apple for comment and will update accordingly.
Article Link: macOS Monterey 12.3 Update Bricking Macs That Have Had Logic Board Replacements
There could be fluffy unicorns dancing on the other side of reality too. You don't get an unending $3tn success story based on shoddy QA. It's common sense, dear.There could be different reasons that may make it worth it to stay in the apple ecosystem despite flaky software.
There could be fluffy unicorns dancing on the other side of reality too. You don't get an unending $3tn success story based on shoddy QA. It's common sense, dear.
I agree that Apple software has bugs, but what software doesn't? I just dislike the whole canonisation of Steve Jobs, which is a way of implying everything would be perfect if it weren't for Tim Cook. Apple is a business. When it starts losing money, then go after Cook.Calm down. No need for fluffy dancing unicorns.. Just kidding.
I was just trying to point that yes, I agree with you on a general sense, but in my opinion there are more factors at play (like their current hardware, the best in the industry, or the interoperability between devices -no other real tech ecosystem truly exists-) since Apple software has been on a steady decline (bug wise, particularly), in the last decade, and yet, like you say, they are the most valuable company in the world.
I agree that Apple software has bugs, but what software doesn't? I just dislike the whole canonisation of Steve Jobs, which is a way of implying everything would be perfect if it weren't for Tim Cook. Apple is a business. When it starts losing money, then go after Cook.
1. Account blocked because unusual activity may have occurred therefore protecting you from further compromise.SECURITY ahahahhahah! Where do u work? In a big IT company, in a bank, or in the goverment???
We have blocked your account for YOUR SECURITY
We have frozen your funds for YOUR SECURITY
We are checking your luggage and your a.s for YOUR SECURITY
Please update your device for YOUR SECURITY
i can continue until tomorrow.
Wake up sheep! When you spot the word "security", remember, IT'S ANYTHING BUT YOUR SECURITY
Wrong answer brosky. You shouldn't have to do this nonsense in the first place. Neither should I have to deal with it as someone who works for an MSP.IMHO, Apple should support reviving a Mac from iOS devices (or even just an iPad) — be it via bluetooth or via USB-C/Lightening.
Yet Apple has known nothing but increasing success over the past 10 years, becoming the world's first publicly traded $3 trillion company. That hardly screams declining QA, does it?
You must not remember IOS 4 performance on the Iphone 3G and the Ipod Touch 2G, for example.
I don't think Apple cared about repairability. For them, if a customer has a problem, all they need to do is replace the whole thing and charge a good amount of money. Oh you think that's expensive, Apple also has a solution for you, AppleCare. Apple wins the money either way.We can only assume Apple already factored-in this inevitable side-effect of making a completely irreparable machine and decided it will affect so few computers that it will be of little consequence. We'll see how this pans out. My 2012 MPB non-retina is still soldiering on at ten years old, on its third battery and second HDD cable, my iMac is even older and has had a graphics card replacement...wonder how these new completely irreparable wonder-machines will compare in ten years.
You deserve to live in a "big brother" world, i bet you would like it... Nothing more to say1. Account blocked because unusual activity may have occurred therefore protecting you from further compromise.
2. Funds frozen to prevent a probable bad actor from draining your account.
3. Checking your luggage to make sure you aren’t bringing something that could lead to your death (such as large quantity flammable liquids in air travel).
4. Please update your device to close software vulnerabilities that could lead to the compromise of your data or credentials.
Completely agreed. I have been a Mac user for the last 25 years, I switched companies in the past to Apple. I can't believe how pretty bad Apple quality control and customer care has been abandoned. I do have a brand new 16" , 3k macbook pro M1 Pro sitting aside never used, just to have as backup if my macbook 2014 16" fails. I can't trust Apple products anymore and I'm really considering switching to linux pc.Is it my imagination or has quality control been on a downhill slide over the last few years at Apple?
Apple customer care and respect has been abandoned. After 25 years just on the Apple ecosystem I'm really considering moving to linux pc. Not windows for sure.I had the same issue with 3 out of 4 virtual machines. Luckily I have snapshots and backups. If you ever find a solution, let me know!