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Still missing a couple of important things that 1Password has:

- option to upload attachments that, for example, contain backup codes
- generate passwords
I downvoted solely for one reason.
See screenshot below...says enough.

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Yes, it's convoluted but it is there.
 
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Two step verification was upgraded automatically after 2FA is introduced. No more 2 step verification for Apple ID. It’s just that for most people, the process still takes “two steps” so they mistake it as two step verification.
I don’t think it did. I have an additional Apple ID that still uses Two Step Verification with SMS codes.
 
I don’t think it did. I have an additional Apple ID that still uses Two Step Verification with SMS codes.
Ok, seems that two step verification is still supported somewhat by apple. But for people who uses iOS 11 and higher, macOS high sierra or later, their two step verification will be automatically updated to 2FA instead.
 
New in Monterey is an option to import and export passwords, so you can move your logins between iCloud Keychain and other password management apps. iCloud Keychain does not have as many entry fields as some password managers, but it supports username, password, and website data.

importing-password-monterey.jpg

I would love it if all of Apple's sync-via-iCloud apps (e.g. Notes) had a similar bulk export/import feature. As a user, if you remember to do that every so often, it gives you some recourse in the event that some bug in iCloud later deletes or corrupts all your content.
 
2FA can make the difference on a hacking attempt. Some day you will appreciate it.
The telephone number is a very bad second factor.

1. I don't want to give my telephone number to companies just because I use their products.
2. It is quite easy to hack this. In many cases where iCloud data were stolen, 2FA didn't prevent this.
3. If you have you loose your second factor e.g. you have a new telephone number, you may loose all your data. It is very difficult to reset the account.
 
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True, but it’s two different products. 1password are not only a password keeper anymore it’s so much more.

if you use / combine all of apples softwares then you have 1password.
I’m jumping over to apple all the way. Why you might ask? It’s simple I love the integration etc.
The integration is nice I agree. Do you have attachments for certain websites and or purchases? If so, how are you planning on using those in relation to Apple's new feature?
 
The telephone number is a very bad second factor.

1. I don't want to give my telephone number to companies just because I use their products.
2. It is quite easy to hack this. In many cases where iCloud data were stolen, 2FA didn't prevent this.
3. If you have you loose your second factor e.g. you have a new telephone number, you may loose all your data. It is very difficult to reset the account.
Are there documented cases of someone's account getting hacked that had 2FA turned on?
 
One more thing,
Of late, Keychain has stopped syncing across my iMac, 2 iPhones and 2 iPads.
I can AirDrop among them, but that's a PITA.
I have contacted "Apple Support" but the tech was going to "bump it to engineering" and I haven't heard bupkis since.
Still waiting. At least the export function might make a transition to 1Password less painful.
 
I agree, especially having to enter the account password every time you want to see the password for a specific site. In my opinion, we shouldn't have to do that after the first time.
FWIW, a linked AppleWatch and iPhone will unlock passwords, etc with a double press of the side bar.
 
There are three reasons why I won't be switching from a 3rd party (Bitwarden in my case) to this. Maybe these will be solved in the future.

In order of importance to me:

1) It doesn't work in Firefox.

2) It isn't customisable as to which fields it will auto-complete. It refuses to fill in my router password, or any website which has more complex fields, such as those needing user, password, and some other piece of info.

3) There's still no iOS app. I can't see my "secure notes" on my phone.
 
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There are three reasons why I won't be switching from a 3rd party (Bitwarden in my case) to this. Maybe these will be solved in the future.

In order of importance to me:

1) It doesn't work in Firefox.

2) It isn't customisable as to which fields it will auto-complete. It refuses to fill in my router password, or any website which has more complex fields, such as those needing user, password, and some other piece of info.

3) There's still no iOS app. I can't see my "secure notes" on my phone.
Maybe Apple is working on the iOS crossover.

I agree with you. A person should be able to see and edit as needed on MacOS or iOS. Otherwise, the feature becomes very niche and not of much use to a lot of people. I think Apple should have integrated Notes with the new feature.

Edited to add: I think this new feature is good but, it has a long way to go before it becomes good competition for 1Password, Bitwarden, Strongbox and others.
 
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There is a fresh case of someone’s account gets a new recovery phone number he doesn’t recognise and bam. His account gets disabled, just like that. 2FA is extremely unfriendly to users who only has one apple device, be it iPhone or iPad or Mac.

And another case where people don’t set up/use the method provided: the recovery email address.
 
“The only way to get to macOS passwords is in Safari preferences.” What?!

Keychain Access has the entire database and you made no mention of passwords for Mail and FileVault and Network Volumes.
 
2FA can make the difference on a hacking attempt. Some day you will appreciate it.
For sure. 3FA is even harder to crack, and then there's 4FA, which makes hacking really impossible. I think OP's point is personal choice; if you don't want or need to set up 2FA, it'd be nice to not have to use it. Kinda like hurricane and rental insurance.
 
Welcome enhancements, but still so so far from being a truly useful password manager.

things like 1Password and KeepassXC, for example, have:

* tags: incredibly useful for tracking what logins are for, what projects they may be associated with, what information is used, etc
* unlimited free form fields
* password history
* attachments
* dedicated facets for different types of information
* etc
 
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Bitwarden is free and can do more than this
I would never, repeat never, trust my passwords to a 3rd party company's software that is free. "Free" means you're the product, always has and always will, and all their asking for is (unbelievably) your keys to the kingdom i.e. your precious passwords. I fundamentally just don't see how people can put such absolute trust in free software.
 
I would never, repeat never, trust my passwords to a 3rd party company's software that is free. "Free" means you're the product, always has and always will, and all their asking for is (unbelievably) your keys to the kingdom i.e. your precious passwords. I fundamentally just don't see how people can put such absolute trust in free software.

Bitwarden is open source.
 
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