I am fine with this change, as long as clicking Allow is all there is – no application restart required.
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macOS Sequoia Will Require Users to Update Screen Recording App Permissions Monthly
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That's speculation. The connection, that is.
That's probably not going to be easy, or else there wouldn't be security in it in the first place.
Wow you seem pretty angry. Anyway, it's an argument from lack of imagination.
Blacklist the update? That's not gonna work out going forward.
It shouldn't, that's not normal. Mine certainly doesn't.
By these arguments, why not remove all security from the OS? The fact is that we have a situation where users hand over a lot of discretionary rights to all programs they start, with no real way to know what those rights are used for. That's the reason for hardened securiy and mandatory access control.
This is a big problem with Teams, I launch it to start a meeting, then want to share my screen and I have to then leave the meeting, quit the app and add permission then relaunch the meeting. It's 100% ridiculous!
Steve Jobs understood the need to make products easy to use for the layman to understand, but now I feel like macOS is being developed by developers for technical people who understand these things, but not the layman who will panic at the sight of a "scary message" that's only asking for permissions to do something or to activate kexts even though they have no idea what any of these things are.
You’re so close to getting it. I literally can turn off most of the security stuff if I wanted to. I don’t, because a lot of it is actually useful, but it’s up to me as the owner of the machine to decide how I much hand-holding I want.
That’s the entire point I’m making. I’m not saying these checks shouldn’t exist, I’m saying that as the user I should be able to say “XYZ app is fine forever, never ask me if it can record my screen again”.
Honestly, that is a strange dialog box.
1.) The default action [OK] presumably... doesn't do anything? It's essentially a Cancel button but the consequences of doing nothing are pretty unclear
2.) Why do we give the user a button to open Settings and instructions for what to do inside of Settings? If the system knows what it needs to do, why not just make the second button Do The Thing.
Problem with Apple is they have forgotten the principle's of ownership. Once is sufficient, twice as a reminder. More than this is just plain irritating with no purpose.
Same as one of my MBP's it's an offline media server, close to 13 years old. So just exactly why is the OS constantly requesting I update the Apple ID when Apple long abandoned it. It's simply annoying & irritating, word to Apple give the users an option to turn such notification's off as it get old fast...
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Same as one of my MBP's it's an offline media server, close to 13 years old. So just exactly why is the OS constantly requesting I update the Apple ID when Apple long abandoned it. It's simply annoying & irritating, word to Apple give the users an option to turn such notification's off as it get old fast...
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Presumably because they shouldn't need to because their company hires IT guys like you? Try and look at this message from a basic end-user's perspective. How are they meant to know what it even means, never mind what action they should take. Do the systems extensions (whatever they are) need to be rebuilt, or can I continue without doing that? It's telling me what I need to do, so does that mean that pressing OK will do that? If I click on Open System Settings, what am I meant to do then?
At the end of the day, would you really prefer that your users just clicked 'OK' on dialogue boxes they don't understand?
Actually, I like the feature. Perhaps it needs to be yet another hard-to-find option in settings. Of course, the default should be to ask once. Let the user decide if he wants to be pestered more often.
This seems like important information. Can anyone eloborate on this? The tweet and the screenshots are still a bit cryptic to me.
The issue for me, I login remotely to one of my home Mac’s - if I’m gone away for an extended period, and the prompt comes up, am I going to lose my remote access??? Probably. And there won’t be a workaround I can think of at this moment.
This is why some people just don’t update. There should be a bypass to always allow app ‘x’ to screen record.
This is why some people just don’t update. There should be a bypass to always allow app ‘x’ to screen record.
Gosh man, as a person who creates a lot of screen recordings for tutorials i'm sure going to get annoyed by this. I can already clearly see when my screen is being recorded thanks to that little blue notification in the top bar.
It's like they don't trust the user to make a firm decision that the reason why they use a screen recording software is because they want to... well.. record their screen. It's just another layer of frustration, and i really like the term "dialog box fatigue".
Seem like the tables have turned:
It's like they don't trust the user to make a firm decision that the reason why they use a screen recording software is because they want to... well.. record their screen. It's just another layer of frustration, and i really like the term "dialog box fatigue".
Seem like the tables have turned:
Mac OS needs a setting that simply allows a user to declare themselves as advanced user - presents a warning of consequences if not, but stops this sort of BS
With macOS Sequoia, Apple is requiring users to regularly reauthorize permissions for screen recording apps, a move that has not been popular with some Mac users. Popups for screen recording app permissions have been showing weekly up throughout the beta testing process, but Apple has tweaked the frequency in response to user feedback.
The latest macOS Sequoia beta prompts users to review their screen recording app permissions once a month, an update over the more frequent weekly popups. The prompt reminds users that screen recording apps have access to their screens and audio.
When the popup shows up, there's now an option to "Allow For One Month" to let the app function as normal, or to open System Settings to get to the screen recording options. macOS Sequoia was also requiring users to approve screen recording apps after restarting their Macs, and this requirement has been removed.
It does not appear that there is a way for users to permanently give screen recording access to recording functionality, but a monthly popup is at least more convenient than a weekly popup.
Article Link: macOS Sequoia Will Require Users to Update Screen Recording App Permissions Monthly
Depends if you use a third party tool to record the screen or if you use built in tools.
Agreed. Apple has never been shy about breaking its OS in the name of progress. But these types of changes are destructive and will lead to less use of the Mac as a server.
You don't have to quit, no matter what the prompt says. I do this alll the time with my test builds. Enabling Screen Recording is enough.
The problem is that there is very little information coming from Apple about what does and does not trigger this prompt and what vendors will be allowed an entitlement that will prevent re-prompting. It seems like companies like Zoom and Microsoft will be allow to apply for the entitlement, as long as they use the new Screen picker API calls, but only for standard "screensharing" applications. But there is still a large number of applications that need to read the screen to function. For example, Bartender (or any menu bar application).
No, not exclusively, you can also post that information here so we can also all help you with retrieving the information. Routing numbers also, please.
If you’re displeased with this and are a developer you better be filing beta feedback to Apple. https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/
The layman also doesnt understand the meaning of 'recording'... they think we're monitoring them and recording their screen when in fact its just our remote access tool capturing the screen because they're remoting into their office machine from home.