I just hope that any new Macs also include 10 GBE. I'm just looking for an excuse to upgrade my GBE switch (and my server, which is really old and should be replaced)!
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macOS Sierra Code Confirms Thunderbolt 3 and 10Gb/s USB 3.1 Transfer Speeds in Future Macs
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Good luck getting your hands on a 3TB PCI-e SSD! Even 2TB SATA SSDs are expensive enough
I really do sympathise with your situation. I'm hoping that a significant CPU boost, larger storage options, and even quicker SSDs should soften the blow. It's only a matter of time until Apple do away with all this stuff, I'm afraid. Best look at the positives.
Remember the fallout with the first rMBP when they got rid of Firewire, Ethernet, the optical drive, and the Line In jack, all in one move? It's not perfect, but it's gonna happen; for better or for worse. Let's see how the performance is!
Sure, that's why I'm talking about purchasing a backpack - as I have a MB Air now, I usually carry a small box in my backpack containing miniDP -> VGA/HDMI/DVI-D adaptors, USB cables of all kind, two USB hubs, TI CC-RF chips debugger (soon to be accompanied with Cypress BT LE MCU debugger), 30 pin + Lightning Adaptor cable for iOS testing and iPod Nano 3rd gen charging (the best thing Apple has ever manufactured, hopefully it will last at least another 9 years...), USB to RS232 adaptor... And probably this collection will have to be expanded with several USB-C to USB-A adaptors and TB3 to TB2/DP adaptor or with a whole bunch of new displays USB-C/TB3 adaptors... The good thing is that USB-C could last at least as long as USB-A.
Oh boy… you'd be better off carting around an iMac and a UPS when the new MacBook Pro comes out!
I hope they do not choose AMD Polaris which (as usual) is way inferior to the Nvidia Pascal :-(
Nvidia Pascal On Laptops: It's a Game-Changer!
Thunderbolt 3 can hit 40Gbps with an active cable. So theoretically it can do 2 streams of DisplayPort 1.2.
Thunderbolt is kinda losing purpose now.
Yeah, Thunderbolt 3 is 40 Gb/s, compared to this new USB 3.1 spec at 10, but DisplayPort 1.3 is already at 32 Gb/s, and USB is catching up faster than Thunderbolt devices are coming out that actually take advantage of the spec.
And DisplayPort already supports daisy-chaining displays. The only advantage of Thunderbolt is that you can slip a hard drive in there with your monitor's daisy chain, yet Thunderbolt doesn't provide enough bandwidth to drive more than two 4K displays.
Meanwhile, the price of Thunderbolt hardware is price prohibitive. I'd hoped Tunderbolt would create innovative things like external GPUs (buy MacBook Pro with integrated GPU, have a GPU in your dock at home to make it a gaming or CAD monster), but they're so expensive that they're not getting to mainstream users.
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Yeah, Thunderbolt 3 is 40 Gb/s, compared to this new USB 3.1 spec at 10, but DisplayPort 1.3 is already at 32 Gb/s, and USB is catching up faster than Thunderbolt devices are coming out that actually take advantage of the spec.
And DisplayPort already supports daisy-chaining displays. The only advantage of Thunderbolt is that you can slip a hard drive in there with your monitor's daisy chain, yet Thunderbolt doesn't provide enough bandwidth to drive more than two 4K displays.
Meanwhile, the price of Thunderbolt hardware is price prohibitive. I'd hoped Tunderbolt would create innovative things like external GPUs (buy MacBook Pro with integrated GPU, have a GPU in your dock at home to make it a gaming or CAD monster), but they're so expensive that they're not getting to mainstream users.
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Yeah, but DisplayPort 1.3 is 32 Gbps. I'm not seeing a big advantage here.
Well, I usually use only some out of these at momentOh boy… you'd be better off carting around an iMac and a UPS when the new MacBook Pro comes out!
But common setup with an Air is: TI MCU debugger + iOS device connected in a USB hub and a external hard drive or USB flash drive in second port, external display in the TB/DP port... If they'll keep at least 3 data connectors, I'll deal with it somehow
(at home I use U2515H's USB hub for connecting all of this stuff)
I absolutely agree. In everyday use most of the features are something you play around with for two or three times and after this you rarely using these features. I don't really care if it's a Broadwell, Skylake or KabyLake CPU in every day use. Because at least 90% of the time my CPU is at about 10% charge or less. And I don't care if the battery lasts 7, 8, 9 or 12 hours. For all day usage it's more than enough.
I bought my 15" MacBook Pro even knowing Apple is probably releasing a new MacBook Pro this fall. But I needed a new laptop right now and I think my MBP is enough for my usage in the next couple of years.
I think the industry is going to move here for Home/SMB
http://www.broadcom.com/blog/networ...es-bottlenecked-enterprise-wireless-networks/
Me too, but I bought 4 of those Dell laptops already - with Xeon processors, too.
Apple, keep me from buying more Dells, pls...
There's always talk about the MacBooks but not a lot about the imac's. I could use a new one and if they are updating soon, I can wait a month or two for the USB c ports (although the last time I bought one I kept waiting for USB 3, gave up and never got anything that needed 3)
It's not going to be Pascal, unfortunately. The power draw on the mobile Pascal chips announced so far is just too high for the TDP of the MacBook Pro. The Sierra betas also contain Polaris driver support already so it's basically 99.9% confirmed it's going to be a Polaris chip in there.
The code shows support for USB 3.1 Gen 2 but I haven't seen anything related to TB 3, which is up to 40 Gb/sec. Seems a little presumptuous to make a statement like "code confirms Thunderbolt 3".
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No suitable Mac --> No money from iOS Development --> Sorry Apple, no iPhone.
Conclusion: I don't care about iPhone, I need a work machine! And I need MacBook Pro, no HipsterBook™ "Pro"
1000% Agreed I'm with you and This September and October I'll have hard earned money to BURN I want to exercise, work and hibernate and develop this winter!!
Wondering if "Magic Keyboard 3" will have that OLED touchbar in the future
Would be nice, but not necessary for me. Besides looks too much like the early 2000 generation HP EliteBooks; Yuck!
Ya know?! Sounds like those old Pontiac cars: GTS-X Premium Fuel this dat then on top of what junk!
I hope Apple is on point ... would be great to see Apple SVP of hardware marketing Schiller say once again "Apple can't innovate my ass!" LOVE this guy! In my mind HE is the only REAL Apple employee left the inner guiding spirit that was left from Jobs' untimely exit.
And it will cost $250Wondering if "Magic Keyboard 3" will have that OLED touchbar in the future
Lol it's not going to be Pascal, man. The code discovered already makes it almost certain it's Polaris, Gurman said on Bloomberg it's Polaris, and the TDP for Pascal is double/more than double than of Polaris. Maybe what you need is a gaming laptop, like Razer Blade or Gigabyte Aero.
Yeah I don't why DisplayPort 1.3 isn't getting supported yet. But remember Thunderbolt is a lot more versatile than DisplayPort, it's basically external PCI Express.