Oh, me too! Wireless power, wireless peripherals, wireless external monitors. Sounds great. I think I'm going to love it.
But I'll probably pick up a new 15" MBP this fall to tide me over while I wait for the real future to arrive.
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But I'll probably pick up a new 15" MBP this fall to tide me over while I wait for the real future to arrive.
Please don't blast me with hate comments, but I'd rather have a new MacBook Pro with the latest Intel processors in November vs the old ones in September, IF that's the reason they're delaying it. I'm guessing Apple is skipping current generation of Intel processors.
Just like everyone else though, I'm on the market for the new models, and I'm frustrated with the delays.
Just like everyone else though, I'm on the market for the new models, and I'm frustrated with the delays.
Nothing.
She had the money and wanted the newest MacBook for her next four years of College. Had the new MacBooks been available, even though no doubt more expensive, she would have bought it in a second (you have to keep in mind this a young person entering College, one of thousands at her age and generation which means having the latest and coolest looking whatever is way more important than what it can or can't do).
Well, it's rumoured to have speakers on the sides of the keyboard, so it would be hats off to Jony if he could squeeze ports in there also. I guess they could have speakers that are half the keyboard height, which would leave room for several ports.
You can't buy a better laptop. They're just flat out incredible.
The Kaby Lake models suitable for the MBP won't be available this year. Only the low-end ones (for the rMB).
I have a bad feeling that they'll be more capable even after the introduction of the new ones - if they remove SD Card slot and there will be only USB-C ports and audio jack, I'll have to purchase another backpack for all those damn adaptors. If they will have included one USB-A, it would be better for the transition. And if they remove SD Card, we'll lose way how to expand storage on-demand.
Somebody should make a bluetooth block with all the ports you could possible need. no wires, all in one block etc you know?
I don't need thinner MacBooks pros with no ports, I need better battery life. Damn hypocrite Ives, puts on weight and still has a fascination with thin...thin...
No suitable Mac --> No money from iOS Development --> Sorry Apple, no iPhone.
Conclusion: I don't care about iPhone, I need a work machine! And I need MacBook Pro, no HipsterBook™ "Pro"
Realistically you can do work on any Mac even todays Macs. It is next to impossible to find a PC that outperforms a 15: Mac Book Pro by a worthwhile amount. So I'm not sure what your whining is all about.
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This is very possible. That would also mean a launch much later in the year than people want. Of course Apple could be twisting Intel arm here due to the less than stellar CPU releases of late.
Really? The adapters moaning isn't going to go away I guess. There are likely to be a crop of multi adapters for all the basics—mini docks and even combo adapters with AC adapters. Even now, I carry adapters because I have to connect to stuff that shouldn't have a native port these days.
Ethernet? Does the vast majority of the laptop-using world use these regularly anymore?
Firewire? Pretty niche these days.
VGA?
I could go on. I have a USB to serial adapter for messing getting to the console on routers and networking devices. I have to carry an adapter. Big whoop. I don't want a serial port on my laptop, "Pro" or not. Most of the world has moved on.
How often do you carry a laptop without a bag? You'd think the average adapter weighed more than the laptop for all the complaining about them. (The price isn't even bad if you don't use the Apple branded stuff.)
The biggest problem, traditionally, with keeping compatible ports is that peripheral makers and such never move forward. If you can make a device that's USB A or USB C and the current crop of MacBooks support the former as well as the latter, "Nice, I don't need to manufacture anything else."
I've been hearing this kind of concern since floppies were roasted and Macs forced USB pretty hard. Pick your poison: sporting a serial and parallel ports and floppy connectors for like a decade too long or full steam forward. There is really not good way to "ease" into it because backwards compatible ports don't force industry change.
And if they remove SD Card, we'll lose way how to expand storage on-demand.
I wonder how many people are actually doing this. There are a lot of little features that become less convenient but Apple knows their actual demographics (and I guarantee the lurkers in this forum are anything but the vast majority).
My only concern is that there are four "identical" ports that aren't actually identical (e.g. some can be used for power, but not others, some are Thunderbolt 3 but not others). That seems relatively "un-Apple" and goes against the whole point of "one port to rule them all" but we'll see when they actually come out.
USB 3.1 gen 2 Episode 2
...then we will wait more than 11 years for the third version.
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The Kaby Lake Chips releasing in 2016 will not be oh crap I don't even care anymore.
Wait for Kaby Lake dear friend...
The Thunderbolt display should come with HDMI ports and a built in Apple TV. If they did that in 32' and bigger then I would seriously consider replacing my TV with one.
If we had to buy outdated machines to make needed work done easier than with the up-to-date ones, it would be really sad. My whining is about MacBooks "Pro" getting still more consumer style - you can't seriously develop anything hardware-related without reasonable number of ports. Wire will always be more reliable and easier to set-up interface than any wireless one...
It would be nice, I've been already thinking about it - I'll make something for myself, but I don't have time for that right now...
Something like HC-05 (or rather BT 4.0 version of it) controlled by some MCU with 3 UARTs and MAX3232 for 2 output ports would suffice. I'll take a look on TI's and Cypress's offering... Someday. But you still have to supply it with power somehow...[/QUOTE]
Well than the delay makes absolutely no sense. Especially with the launch missing the back to school season completely.
I agree that it is necessary to move forward and ditch old ports and interfaces when they are no longer needed by majority, but you can make the transition easier by enabling usage of both old (USB-A) and new (USB-C) devices...
I know most of the adopters cost few USD on eBay and I think that unifying USB-C and TB connectors is a good think because of this - you can choose between TB3 and USB-C adaptor...
SD Card: Everyone who I know personally and owns a Mac uses it - the SSD upgrade prices are everything but sane if you need more than 256 GBs.
VGA: It is pretty common here, old projectors in particular.
About TB3 vs USB-C problem: I don't know TB3 specifications about default power levels etc. It depends on the TB3 controller: If it can handle 4 ports (if the rumors about 4 I/O are true), then there will be no problem. I can imagine some form of SW detection (i.e. maybe like this:
*Device connected, supply 5 Volts*
– Hey, are you TB3 - compatible ? –
*NO*
– Mac enables USB-C mode of the connector.
This really depends on the specifications of the controller and the HW design of the MacBook - I know nothing about either of these. I also don't know the power specifications and default voltage levels of TB3 - if it is 5V, then the negation about protocol used might be possible. I'll take a look on it.
Agreed.
The best thing I can come up with is that they were waiting on Polaris. I still think they could have got the 13" rMBP out around June/July if they really wanted to, with the 15" dGPU model to follow later. But I guess they wanted to sell some old models at high prices a bit longer.
It does make perfect sense if you believe that the delay is related to:
1. Apple waiting for AMD's 14nm Polaris mobile GPU
2. Tuning macOS Sierra to the OLED function bar that will be on the new MBP
I don't think that the next MBP's coming out within the next couple of months will be based on Kaby Lake, but Skylake CPUs.
And if that were the case, I'd agree with you, but it's not. Considering how long Apple takes to implement new technologies into any of their products, there's no chance of seeing Kaby Lake in a Mac this year. At this point, the delay is completely arbitrary as they won't launch a new MBP until Sierra goes GM. Furthermore, it sounds like Cook is worried an exciting MBP refresh might take excitement away from the iPhone 7 launch, so there's a chance we won't see them in September now either.