Westside guy
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It's hard to believe that's what they did, given that version 26 of iOS and iPadOS are also kind of sucky.
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macOS Tahoe Finder Bug Underscores Apple's Slipping UI Polish
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Finder does have an option to keep folders at the top though. It’s in the Finder Settings
That should be fixed in the latest update. Check again. They reversed a lot of the extreme transparency that Tahoe 26.2 still had.
Windows still has a lot of XP era UI in the admin tools.
You can't compare Windows and macOS. Windows has to support apps that go back years. I have two apps from the late 90s that still work with minor fuss. Apple doesn't care about that level of backwards compatibility because their user base is much smaller and the company is design focused.
MasterControlProgram
macrumors 6502
There’s a similar UI fail on iPadOS. If you have an app set hidden in slide over and load a large scrolling page in e.g. Safari, if you try to scroll the page and then grab the grey scroll bar so you can scroll more quickly, iPadOS will keep bringing in your slide over app instead of letting you scroll.
MacRumors should publish more articles that draw attention to issues like these.
It’s a win-win situation:
It’s a win-win situation:
- Maximum community and reader engagement
- It puts the issue in the spotlight. After a few iterations, it gets Apple’s attention and helps avoid bad publicity.
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
Legibility inspired by the Bay Area fog.
People have different ways of working. For some people, not having visible scrollbars makes it hard for them to navigate and know what to point to (or they may forget the column is longer than what is showing) etc.
Ulysses164
macrumors member
I don’t know if Apple’s ability to produce quality Ui has been lost. The Dynamic Island is a recent and good example of quality work. Vision Pro, for all its faults, is good UI work. Mac was once everything to Apple; their complete focus could be poured into it. Now, it’s a very clear and distance third of four platforms. I more see this representing the time and resource and talent Apple is willing to invest into the Mac. This is the effort Apple believes the Mac is worth.
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Terry Smith
macrumors member
Regardless of the 'they never used to do this stuff... this one flaw does drive me nuts. I count on that little trick! I'm glad to see it's not just me.
Apple released macOS Tahoe last September, but despite two point updates since then, it is still struggling to resolve an embarrassing interface issue in Finder that appears to have been introduced with its Liquid Glass redesign.
If you updated your Mac to macOS Tahoe and you prefer to work in Finder's column view, there's a good chance you've been frustrated by the glitch, which developer Jeff Johnson has been admirably tracking over on his blog.
Scroll bar blocking column resize handles (Original image: Jeff Johnson)
At the bottom of each Finder column are handy little resize handles allowing you to expand or reduce each column as you see fit. But in macOS 26 and macOS 26.2, when scroll bars are set to "always show," the horizontal scroll bar at the bottom overlaps and covers those handles, so you can't click them to adjust column widths the way you could in earlier macOS versions like Sequoia.
Scroll bar occluding column content (Original image: Jeff Johnson)
With the recent release of macOS 26.3, Apple attempted a fix. The vertical scrollers were shortened so the resizing widgets now sit above the horizontal bar and are technically clickable again. Unfortunately though, as Johnson points out, the horizontal scroll bar still overlaps file names in the view, causing it to regularly obscure content. Moreover, if you hide the path bar and status bar, the layout leaves a weird amount of empty space below the scrollers, making the whole thing look unfinished (see image below).
Column resize handles suspended in mid-air (Original image: Jeff Johnson)
Johnson's take is basically that while the most disruptive bug is less bad now, the overall column view layout still feels half-baked – especially for anyone who keeps scroll bars always visible.
As Daring Fireball's John Gruber points out, it's an embarrassing fudge for a company that used to pride itself on pixel-perfect settings across its Mac operating system.
At this point, it's unclear when Apple will manage to iron out the UI irregularities introduced by Liquid Glass. macOS Tahoe 26.4 is likely to be released in March or April, and could introduce some new Siri features, though at least some of the capabilities that we were expecting may have been delayed, depending on who you believe. The update is also expected to introduce new emoji characters.
Article Link: macOS Tahoe Finder Bug Underscores Apple's Slipping UI Polish
jdawgnoonan
macrumors 65816
I agree with you for the most part, but I spend half of my day using Windows and still consider my Mac to be a breath of fresh air compared.
RadMac
macrumors member
While they're at it, can they fix these atrocities?
macfacts
macrumors 603
apple doesn't have employees going on the web to read blogs, they have a feedback form on their website, you have to use that. or else they can't fix what they don't know about
They aren't using that either 😅
dwaite
macrumors 68000
You need to have scrollbars set to always display, which then makes them affect layout (they create an inner scrollable view and take up space for the scrollbars, vs displaying as an overlay as-needed).
This also changes resize behavior - rather than the divider between views being a thin resize handle, the thick scrollbar divider has a dedicated resize control.
Not taking scrollbar sizing into account is historically a pretty common problem with displayed scrollbars (it turns a scrollable view from having two 'size' values for customizing layout to having potentially eight). It has become more of a problem because now most people (including developers) do not run in the mode where scrollbars impact layout. In this case it is further hidden by Finder having four different ways to display contents, and it only being incorrect in one of them.
ThomasJL
macrumors 68020
As the saying goes, “You can’t polish a turd.”
ProbablyDylan
macrumors 68040
They probably should. I can't imagine not actively seeking customer feedback on my product.
Unless of course they don't actually care. In that case more power to them.
I reported this bug soon after installing Tahoe, and Apple asked me to review it again after I install the 26.3 update...not sure if that means I was one of the first people to report it or there's something unique about my MacStudio. I'll be sure to note the issues pointed out here if they appear for me after the update. Tahoe does seem to have more than the usual number of quirks in the GUI...I was hoping that Liquid Glass on Mac would take us back towards Aqua, which I still think was the best computer interface I've ever used, maybe it will get there with some more work.
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
I think they are all tasked with figuring out how to make "UI as a Service".
Count dem beenz Timothy
When good enough isn’t isn’t, that used to be a thing now it isn’t even good enough, so sad to see such a decline in standards
mac-imperator
macrumors member
We need to find someone that can "REANIMATE" steve jobs.
MacHeritage
macrumors 6502a
?? I wish they would go back to QuickTime 7 Pro, including the design which is so effective for making quick edits and exporting to any format of one's choice, saving a reference of the file without creating a whole new full copy etc.
Sadly, they modernized it, killing its ability to be super useful to me. It is very clunky in comparison. I still have to go back to Mojave to use QuickTime 7 Pro to this day, to make up for the lack of features etc. with the new QuickTime X, regardless of which version it is.
There is no legacy anything in v10, except the name. That was the problem.
They also need to address the energy usage problem on X. Can't leave it open for more than 20-30 minutes without getting that warning.
Facebook has been glitchy as well.
Facebook has been glitchy as well.