MacRumors Roundups: What We Expect for the iPhone 5S, 5C and iWatch

[iapplelove]

came her for he iWatch, disappointed. why is there so little information available about the iWatch, i wanna see more.

maybe because still there is so little information about iwatch. Lots ot tech copycats out there,not like apple is going to spill their surprises just yet.

 

[charlesdayton]

Interesting how many Android users are posting here. If you love Android so much why are you wasting time posting on an iPhone forum?

Your whining and bashing isn't going to convert anyone to Android. People choose the phone they want regardless of your opinion. You just make the Android community look bad.

 

[ahlsn]

LMAO at the ignorance of people that consider this fingerprint scanner NOT innovative, or call it gimmicky, or compare it to Atrix. Lol, do some research. This IS the future. For both security & commerce. Why don't you ridiculous Luddites go picket your local grocery stores for those "gimmicky" self-scanning checkout stands. This is NOT any more like that Atrix crap, than two tin cans & a string are like a current gen smart phone. Read up on Apple's biometric acquisitions & licenses. This is a one/two punch. Not only did they buy the hardware.... but (MUCH more importantly) right after I had heard that a group of researchers created a biometric security protocol secure enough to be stand up to and be accepted by ALL of the major world banks standards, whilst NOT relying on a central database of biometric data... rather, having authentication handled locally on the machine- Apple swooped in and snatched them up.
Can you grasp this big picture? This is the very definition of innovation.. to do something WILDLY different. Create an already approved, commerce-ready biometric enabled device that NOBODY can copy. Sure, Samsung can add a fingerprint sensor (and surely will.. but hypocritically, you guys will NOT consider it gimmicky.. though it will likely come with a free pair of Mickey Mouse ears).. but it literally CANNOT be used for commerce in the way Apple's will be able to. They already OWN the ONLY tech that is secure & mature enough.. unless you know of Samsung having snapped up their own biometric hardware & software firms over the last few years???? No.. then Apple skated to where the puck is going to be. Yes, this will likely slowly roll out.. first unlock, device & sign in for app purchases, then all your passwords, then full-on ecommerce.. but, mark my words: we will all remember this as the first device to use the tech that we all take for granted, and is on all of our electronic devices.

Exactly! THIS will be a game changer. In a few years September 10, 2013 will be a day that people look back to and say, holy crap we did not see that coming.

 

[juanmanas]

Interesting how many Android users are posting here. If you love Android so much why are you wasting time posting on an iPhone forum?

Your whining and bashing isn't going to convert anyone to Android. People choose the phone they want regardless of your opinion. You just make the Android community look bad.

The problem is not to have android users, which are always more than welcome. The problem is the poor quality of android users that seem to come here. They seem the typical teenagers shouting at forums... As you say, they make the whole android community look sad...

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came her for he iWatch, disappointed. why is there so little information available about the iWatch, i wanna see more.

Im sure you can answer yourself to that...

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I'm SO with you! We're gonna go to Android forums, using our Android devices, and we will so be leaving MacRumors and iDevices! Yeah! That'll teach Apple! I hate the lack of change, or in case of lack of lackness, I can hate change too! What ever happens or doesn't happen, we're going to teach everyone here and Apple a lesson! Don't mess with us with your lack of change or change.

You are obviously the same guy, writing with different names and voting yourself. Im sure your parents had better plans for you.

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720p to 1080p
4.7 to 5.0
Gorrila glass 2 to 3
306ppi to 441
20% power saving at same brightness over gs3
Way better calibration over gs4
Diamond matrix rgb
Can sense your finger without touching the screen
Way brighter at max brightness hitting 475
30% less reflective over gs3 screen

Now on to internals (USA model)
Dual core 1.5ghz to quad core 1.9ghz with more the 2x GPU speed increase.so we have about 130% increase in performance over gs3.iPhone 5s is rumored to have 31% over the 5.

The gs4 was also the first phone to use DDR 3 ram with way more bandwith over the gs3.

Gs3 had an 8mp camera and the gs4 got a 13mp with a bunch of new features that are not on the gs3 also.

IPhone 5 to 5s
Finger print scanner and another dual core with 1gb ram clocked a little faster to get your 31% boost


Yawnnnn wake me up when the iPhone 8 is out

We cant deny Samsung is trying hard. Faster and faster processors with every release. Problem is, the GUI is laggy as hell. The interface is awful. The new features are useless. The screen is poor (white must be white, not blue). Having said that, if you like it, buy it. If somebody does not like it, respect it. I am sure that you could understand it, despite your crazy and obssesive behaviour.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

... and it took the might of apple, over the course of 12 months, to come up with this?

Laughable!!!

Same could be said of Samsung's Galaxy 4S... and was by tech watchers. And Samsung is a much bigger company than Apple to boot. I'm sure you feel the same regarding Samsung as Apple though, just wanted to bring it to other's attention.

Ultimately companies, regardless of size, are driven by humans, and it's not humanly possible (or financially feasible) to come up with groundbreaking design and features year after year. It's why "groundbreaking" is just that and special. Most products are refined year over year, not reinvented. True of the Galaxy, True of the iPhone. Anyone who thinks any given product should see radical change every year or so is living on the Internet, not in real life.

Personally, I do believe a finger print sensor is "the next big thing." I wish this was an upgrade year for me. I hate having to enter my pin all the time, hoping my fingers hit the right numbers.

 

[peterdevries]

Ultimately companies, regardless of size, are driven by humans, and it's not humanly possible to come up with groundbreaking design and features year after year. It's why "groundbreaking" is just that and special. Most products are refined year over year, not reinvented. True of the Galaxy, True of the iPhone. Anyone who thinks any given product should see radical change every year or so is living on the Internet, not in real life.

It's the difference between incremental and disruptive innovation. In general incremental innovation is done by large corporations to defend their market shares and develop their existing product lines. Smaller companies with a more entrepreneurial mind-set in general produce the real disruptive innovations. With this, it is a miracle that Apple introduced the iPhone and the iPad.

I think the thing to do here is to create a skunk-works or Google labs type of subdivision from Apple that is dedicated to developing truly visionary new products. That needs a different culture, risk appetite and autonomy. The core business of Apple is not sufficiently capable of these things anymore.

 

[kobalap]

Interesting how many Android users are posting here. If you love Android so much why are you wasting time posting on an iPhone forum?

Your whining and bashing isn't going to convert anyone to Android. People choose the phone they want regardless of your opinion. You just make the Android community look bad.

Well, if you were some pimple nosed teenager or 20 something living in your mom's basement with video games being your most important activity during the weekend, maybe you too would have nothing better to do than to complain about iPhone's lack of innovative "nose picking" touchless gesture support on MacRumors.

 

[skratch77]

The problem is not to have android users, which are always more than welcome. The problem is the poor quality of android users that seem to come here. They seem the typical teenagers shouting at forums... As you say, they make the whole android community look sad...

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Im sure you can answer yourself to that...

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You are obviously the same guy, writing with different names and voting yourself. Im sure your parents had better plans for you.

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We cant deny Samsung is trying hard. Faster and faster processors with every release. Problem is, the GUI is laggy as hell. The interface is awful. The new features are useless. The screen is poor (white must be white, not blue). Having said that, if you like it, buy it. If somebody does not like it, respect it. I am sure that you could understand it, despite your crazy and obssesive behaviour.

The screen is poor? Last I looked online on trustee display sites the gs4 screen hit a better white balance then the HTC one and iPhone 5

 

[Klosefabrinio]

I'm waiting for the launches of the Note 3, One Max and xperia Z1, would only buy an iPhone if Apple miraculously launched a 5''+ device atm.

yep, apple badly needs to make a bigger iphone, the 4 inch screen size isn't enough.

 

[peterdevries]

The screen is poor? Last I looked online on trustee display sites the gs4 screen hit a better white balance then the HTC one and iPhone 5

Do you have a source link?

 

[lousada]

Interesting how many Android users are posting here. If you love Android so much why are you wasting time posting on an iPhone forum?

Your whining and bashing isn't going to convert anyone to Android. People choose the phone they want regardless of your opinion. You just make the Android community look bad.

I'm both an Android and iPhone user, where should I post then?

Stop looking at brands like sports teams, you don't win anything by defending one of them to death! Both Android and iOS have their pros and cons and it's only natural to compare them.

Some people prefer iOS to Android and are only saying that it's time for Apple to move on, mainly on the screen size and that's because they wish they didn't have to buy an Android to get a decent screen. That's why they are posting in an iPhone forum!

 

[ka-spot]

yawn..lol i can.

can you really? or you only think you can? and you cannot really realize that you can't or you can? can you? really?

 

[NumberNine]

Interesting how many Android users are posting here. If you love Android so much why are you wasting time posting on an iPhone forum?

Your whining and bashing isn't going to convert anyone to Android. People choose the phone they want regardless of your opinion. You just make the Android community look bad.

Because it's fun

 

[iapplelove]

can you really? or you only think you can? and you cannot really realize that you can't or you can? can you? really?

Really I can. No really. I can really. Can you? Really, can you?

 

[Mike MA]

Very nice feature - but what about the redesigned iPads? There's also a lot to be discussed like the technical specs (not Retina, but new A7 processor etc.)

 

[topper24hours]

Exactly! THIS will be a game changer. In a few years September 10, 2013 will be a day that people look back to and say, holy crap we did not see that coming.

Yeah.. there's so much potential.. I remember right when they started patenting a ton of the fingerprint ui components & mechanisms and one described using biometrics as ID at an event purchased through iTunes. I immediately thought how awesome it would be if a music powerhouse like Apple supplanted Ticketmaster.. especially if you can present both ticket & ID at the gate while handing them NEITHER! Just a glance at your eticket as you tap your thumb. I remember the article described promotions such as the discounted & highlighted apps they promote on ther iTunes & App stores.. Can you imagine.... stuff like a free hot dog & Pepsi at concessions if you paid through iTunes at a sports event.. or, free t-shirt at a concert , if you booked through iTunes. I thought.. man, there is an uncontested market that Apple could quickly grasp.

 

[peterdevries]

I thought.. man, there is an uncontested market that Apple could quickly grasp.

Thank God Apple is not trying to get into every and each market on the planet. The ticketing market is hotly contested, incredibly convoluted and very mature to boot.

If you look at the history, Apple MADE markets, not entered existing markets:

• Smartphones
• Tablets
• Usable ultrabooks
• iPod and iTunes

There is not that much to gain from the ticketing market unless you are willing to spend an incredible amount of money. Apple would do better to invest in further development of existing products and using its expertise in developing next generation new devices.

 

[gnasher729]

came her for he iWatch, disappointed. why is there so little information available about the iWatch, i wanna see more.

1. Nobody even knows if such a project exists at all. For all we know, there may be just rumors designed to make the likes of Samsung produce products that nobody wants.

2. If there is such a product, building it will be the smallest part of the exercise. Making it do something useful, and I mean useful not to nerds but useful to a degree that ordinary people have a benefit, that's the hard part. And that hard part is done in California by people who know how to keep their mouths shut.

 

[0xyMoron]

How fast will the finger print sensor validation compared to slide to unlock?

 

[juanmanas]

The screen is poor? Last I looked online on trustee display sites the gs4 screen hit a better white balance then the HTC one and iPhone 5

Maybe the reviewer was feeling "blue"

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I'm both an Android and iPhone user, where should I post then?

Stop looking at brands like sports teams, you don't win anything by defending one of them to death! Both Android and iOS have their pros and cons and it's only natural to compare them.

Some people prefer iOS to Android and are only saying that it's time for Apple to move on, mainly on the screen size and that's because they wish they didn't have to buy an Android to get a decent screen. That's why they are posting in an iPhone forum!

Could not agree more. With education, both are welcome on the two sides.

 

[appleisking]

Thank God Apple is not trying to get into every and each market on the planet. The ticketing market is hotly contested, incredibly convoluted and very mature to boot.

If you look at the history, Apple MADE markets, not entered existing markets:

• Smartphones
• Tablets
• Usable ultrabooks
• iPod and iTunes

There is not that much to gain from the ticketing market unless you are willing to spend an incredible amount of money. Apple would do better to invest in further development of existing products and using its expertise in developing next generation new devices.

There was a market for tablets. A small one but it existed. Smartphones def. had a market before Apple. I'll give you ultrabooks, but ipod and itunes was just a new way of getting music onto an mp3 device, certainly wasn't made by Apple. If anything those are all examples of Apple entering existing markets.

 

[gnasher729]

yep, apple badly needs to make a bigger iphone, the 4 inch screen size isn't enough.

I myself think that even an old iPhone 3GS is uncomfortably large. On the other hand, I don't feel any psychological need to surround myself with large gadgets.

 

[juanmanas]

How fast will the finger print sensor validation compared to slide to unlock?

Compared to slide to unlock or to entering a password?

 

[gnasher729]

There was a market for tablets. A small one but it existed. Smartphones def. had a market before Apple. I'll give you ultrabooks, but ipod and itunes was just a new way of getting music onto an mp3 device, certainly wasn't made by Apple. If anything those are all examples of Apple entering existing markets.

The "tablet market" that you quote was a market for "full computers turned in a shape that they can be carried, making them more expensive and harder to use than a normal laptop". A tiny market that has probably shrunk, and Apple doesn't sell any iPads into that market.

"Smartphones" users before iPhone were a completely different bunch. They were buying "almost Windows PCs in a small form factor". MP3 players were aimed at geeks, iPod was aimed at music lovers.

 

[Black Magic]

No we were not talking about innovation we were talking about the gs3 to gs4.

I think you said it got nothing but hand waving gestures and a bigger screen and then I gave you a brief spec run of the major differences the gs4 got over the gs3.

Now on to the innovations the phone got

A screen that can sense your finger without touching it

The camera software on the gs4 is on another planet never mind level over the gs3 or any other cell phone.just Google it and see how much you can do in their.

The screen is using a new laser array to make the diamond matrix panel and is the first in the industry to use this tech and is how Samsung mass produced a 441 PPI amoled display.it actually won an award for it.

The notification system is innovative and a lot better then the gs3.like if you get a missed call or text when u pic the phone up it will vibrate to remind you.the iPhone to this freaking day doesn't even have an led light to blink to let you know u have s missed call.

There so much more but my post was not about inovation it was about showing you how much the gs4 was an upgrade over the gs3

The 5s will get 2 mores cores? And a bigger screen along with a bigger battery? I doubt it and you sound like everyone in the line commercial saying we'll get that soon right lol

I also love the way you generalize the faster CPU part and say ya the iPhone will get that Lol

The gs4 CPU performance more then doubled and not some little 31% were talking 130-180% if you include the exynos octo core and the monster clocked Korean version

So if the CPU performance doubled on the S4 and it still has lag, does it matter? The iPhone doesn't lag and that is the point. Most people don't care about CPU specs when the phone runs smooth. Again, you are just spouting off marketing banter to support buying an inferior product.

Yes, the S4 is an inferior product. Let me list how:

1. Materials (plastic).
2. Ecosystem.
3. Performance. Yes, the GS4 still lags.

Also, screen size is subjective. Apparently 4" screens are selling like hot cakes for Apple. In fact, you will notice that Google copied with the Nexus 4. You also notice that others in the industry are following suit with reasonable sized screens (Moto X). Yes, having a phone you can use with one hand, battery lasts all day, and fits in your pocket comfortably is still the phone to beat. Oh, and the camera software features on the S4 can be replicated with paid or free apps on iOS if anyone really cares.

Funny how you love Android so much yet you hang out in a Apple forum chirping. Why not chirp in a Samsung or Android forum? Is it because you seek attention?