MacRumors Roundups: What We Expect for the iPhone 5S, 5C and iWatch

[atlatnesiti]

Out in the real world away from the various Internet forums, I'm not hearing the usual conversation about the upcoming iPhone like I did in past years. There are several very large conferences I attend this time of year therefore I'm around lots of people, when the topic turns to smartphones it's a brief conversation and I'm in the minority with the iPhone 5 I use. Previously their was more of a balance between Android & iPhone. Times are changing for sure.

Yeah, sad times for Apple users indeed. With the current fast paced advances in mobile phone technology, bigger screen devices, Apple releasing new iPhone every two years not only is boring and predictable, but it doesn't cut it anymore I'm afraid.

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Yeah .2" bigger screen + waving hands wildly to turn down volume on your matching Galaxy tv is SO innovative! Who needs a completely updated OS, brand-new tech fingerprint scanner, super-fast internals, customized to the software, & an amazing camera upgrade on iPhone 5S?

There is nothing new about finger print scanner, amazing? camera update and super fast? Internals... Very lame update if you ask me. Oh, you forgot to mention - the same 1 year old iPhone 5 design in Chmpagne colour... Now, that's what I call innovation Lol

 

[skratch77]

Yeah .2" bigger screen + waving hands wildly to turn down volume on your matching Galaxy tv is SO innovative! Who needs a completely updated OS, brand-new tech fingerprint scanner, super-fast internals, customized to the software, & an amazing camera upgrade on iPhone 5S?

720p to 1080p
4.7 to 5.0
Gorrila glass 2 to 3
306ppi to 441
20% power saving at same brightness over gs3
Way better calibration over gs4
Diamond matrix rgb
Can sense your finger without touching the screen
Way brighter at max brightness hitting 475
30% less reflective over gs3 screen

Now on to internals (USA model)
Dual core 1.5ghz to quad core 1.9ghz with more the 2x GPU speed increase.so we have about 130% increase in performance over gs3.iPhone 5s is rumored to have 31% over the 5.

The gs4 was also the first phone to use DDR 3 ram with way more bandwith over the gs3.

Gs3 had an 8mp camera and the gs4 got a 13mp with a bunch of new features that are not on the gs3 also.

IPhone 5 to 5s
Finger print scanner and another dual core with 1gb ram clocked a little faster to get your 31% boost


Yawnnnn wake me up when the iPhone 8 is out

 

[Black Magic]

That's EXACTLY why Apple isn't innovating anymore. They're always catching up. Up until 2 weeks ago, I've always had iPhones (3GS, 4, and 5). Tired of the lackluster technology (and small/slim form of the 5) I decided (like the throngs of others are doing) to try Android (Sony XPERIA XL). First week...hated it. Second week...started to grow on me more, and now I'm really enjoying the power and the features. I can customize it to look how I want it and can change apps away from the stock ones. And, yes, it is more powerful than my iPhone 5. (so are the S3 and S4, btw).

You're hooked on Apple Juice...that's fine. For me, variety is the spice of life, and I'm not afraid to wander off to greener pastures. If/when Apple comes out with something markedly better, I'll decide whether to come back or not then. By then, Snapdragon 800-based phones will have been out for a while, so Apple better have something really big up their sleeves to one-up them!

I'm not hooked on the Apple Juice, I like their products. I've been down the Android road and when your one year old phone stops getting OS updates and you realize that the only worthwhile widgets are weather and settings, it will finally dawn on you that you moved to an inferior device. You somehow believe that if you switch to Android that they are innovating every generation. You are wrong. The Galaxy S3 to S4 is proof of this.

I guess it's hip to hate on popular people, places, and things. A lot of you are doing just that, hating. It's cool but why do that in an Apple forum? Take that hot mess to an Android phone and beat on your chest there.

 

[Crzyrio]

That's EXACTLY why Apple isn't innovating anymore. They're always catching up. Up until 2 weeks ago, I've always had iPhones (3GS, 4, and 5). Tired of the lackluster technology (and small/slim form of the 5) I decided (like the throngs of others are doing) to try Android (Sony XPERIA XL). First week...hated it. Second week...started to grow on me more, and now I'm really enjoying the power and the features. I can customize it to look how I want it and can change apps away from the stock ones. And, yes, it is more powerful than my iPhone 5. (so are the S3 and S4, btw).

You're hooked on Apple Juice...that's fine. For me, variety is the spice of life, and I'm not afraid to wander off to greener pastures. If/when Apple comes out with something markedly better, I'll decide whether to come back or not then. By then, Snapdragon 800-based phones will have been out for a while, so Apple better have something really big up their sleeves to one-up them!

You cant compare android and iOS, they are two different platforms for different people. I do not know why people get into this. You do not like iOS? then go ahead and get an Android.

I personally prefer Apple because it just works. I do not have time to go around and load custom roms or customize the **** out of my phone. I just want a phone that works, that is easy to download apps, that is easy to use and doesnt try to do a million and one things. Yes, I got sucked into the Apple ecosystem, but I have never looked back. Everything just syncs up perfectly between my macs and iPhones.

iOS 7 address my biggest concern which was the quick access to toggles.

Yeah, sad times for Apple users indeed. With the current fast paced advances in mobile phone technology, bigger screen devices, Apple releasing new iPhone every two years not only is boring and predictable, but it doesn't cut it anymore I'm afraid.

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There is nothing new about finger print scanner, amazing? camera update and super fast? Internals... Very lame update if you ask me. Oh, you forgot to mention - the same 1 year old iPhone 5 design in Chmpagne colour... Now, that's what I call innovation Lol

There is absolutely nothing new about the finger print scanner, heck android had it on the Atrix a couple years ago. But where did that go? No where...

IF the new iPhone does include a finger print scanner, the scanner it self will not be anything new or amazing but what will be new and amazing is their implementation of it. Them using their power to make it useful.

Heck touch screen phones were nothing new untill the iPhone? Tablets were being used since 2000, yet it took Apple's implementation of it in order to actually make it useful to the consumer. NOTHING apple makes is something new and revolutionary, but rather they way they implement it and actually make an effort to make it usable to the every day person.

 

[Black Magic]

720p to 1080p
4.7 to 5.0
Gorrila glass 2 to 3
306ppi to 441
20% power saving at same brightness over gs3
Way better calibration over gs4
Diamond matrix rgb
Can sense your finger without touching the screen
Way brighter at max brightness hitting 475
30% less reflective over gs3 screen

Now on to internals (USA model)
Dual core 1.5ghz to quad core 1.9ghz with more the 2x GPU speed increase.so we have about 130% increase in performance over gs3.iPhone 5s is rumored to have 31% over the 5.


The gs4 was also the first phone to use DDR 3 ram with way more bandwith over the gs3.

Gs3 had an 8mp camera and the gs4 got a 13mp with a bunch of new features that are not on the gs3 also.

IPhone 5 to 5s
Finger print scanner and another dual core with 1gb ram clocked a little faster to get your 31% boost


Yawnnnn wake me up when the iPhone 8 is out

iPhone 5S is not out yet so how can you compare using rumors?

S4 Specs are mostly gimmicks. 720p versus 1080p on a phone? Your eye can't tell the difference but the marketing hype got you good. Go read the Moto X Engineer interview to enlighten yourself.

You also fell for the Quad Core xGhz Spec crap. S4 has all that and still lags when the iPhone is smooth as butter? Funny. Also, did you know that most software is not designed to use Quad Core so to save battery, those extra CPUs are turned off? Again, go read and enlighten yourself instead of recycling marketing banter showing how easily you can be mislead.

 

[KohPhiPhi]

I dont understand what is the expectation about this iPhone update. It's the EXACT as iPhone 5 with some gimmicks (fingerprint scanner).

 

[skratch77]

iPhone 5S is not out yet so how can you compare using rumors?

S4 Specs are mostly gimmicks. 720p versus 1080p on a phone? Your eye can't tell the difference but the marketing hype got you good. Go read the Moto X Engineer interview to enlighten yourself.

You also fell for the Quad Core xGhz Spec crap. S4 has all that and still lags when the iPhone is smooth as butter? Funny. Also, did you know that most software is not designed to us Quad Core so to save battery, those extra CPUs are turned off? Again, go read an enlighten yourself instead of recycling marketing banter showing how easily you can be mislead.

Blah blah blah

First off let me tell you right now the gs4 screen is night and day different from the gs3 screen and I don't care if you are blind as a bat u can still tell the difference.

I like how you twist your words now and talk about apple os and blah blah what ever the heck your blahbing about.

You said the gs4 was not a big update over the gs3 and it is a major update in every category. It even has a bigger battery and lasts longer with still having a faster quad core soc.

Its also lighter and slimmer but I guess that's not innovative either right?

I don't need to go and read about quad cores my friend iv had android from the first nexus and have been there all the way from the beginning and know exactly how important a fast soc is to get the most out of it.

Unlocked kernels with custom tweaks to the video drivers to over clocking the hell out of it to run emulators and so on and so forth.

You tell us the gs4 hardwares nothing but gimmicks and sound like a complete baby that didn't get what he wanted for Xmas and just shrug and say gimmicks gimiicks I tell you!!

You know what's a gimmick? A finger print scaner on a phone at least Samsung worked with the nsa and CIA to make Knox built into the hardware and very deep into the android kernel

 

[Black Magic]

Blah blah blah

First off let me tell you right now the gs4 screen is night and day different from the gs3 screen and I don't care if you are blind as a bat u can still tell the difference.

I like how you twist your words now and talk about apple os and blah blah what ever the heck your blahbing about.

You said the gs4 was not a big update over the gs3 and it is a major update in every category. It even has a bigger battery and lasts longer with still having a faster quad core soc.

Its also lighter and slimmer but I guess that's not innovative either right?

So the bar you are setting for innovation to get your hard earned dollars are:

1. slimmer and lighter even though it looks like the S3 in design.
2. bigger battery which every phone gets.
3. faster CPU.

Funny stuff especially considering that the iPhone 5S will have those things outside of the redesign (slimmer/lighter).

You must be new to buying phones. Oh and Samsung will copy Apple and try to do Fingerprint reader. Samsung doesn't innovate, they copy. Go read up and enlighten yourself.

 

[skratch77]

So the bar you are setting for innovation to get your hard earned dollars are:

1. slimmer and lighter even though it looks like the S3 in design.
2. bigger battery which every phone gets.
3. faster CPU.

Funny stuff especially considering that the iPhone 5S will have those things outside of the redesign (slimmer/lighter).

You must be new to buying phones.

No we were not talking about innovation we were talking about the gs3 to gs4.

I think you said it got nothing but hand waving gestures and a bigger screen and then I gave you a brief spec run of the major differences the gs4 got over the gs3.

Now on to the innovations the phone got

A screen that can sense your finger without touching it

The camera software on the gs4 is on another planet never mind level over the gs3 or any other cell phone.just Google it and see how much you can do in their.

The screen is using a new laser array to make the diamond matrix panel and is the first in the industry to use this tech and is how Samsung mass produced a 441 PPI amoled display.it actually won an award for it.

The notification system is innovative and a lot better then the gs3.like if you get a missed call or text when u pic the phone up it will vibrate to remind you.the iPhone to this freaking day doesn't even have an led light to blink to let you know u have s missed call.

There so much more but my post was not about inovation it was about showing you how much the gs4 was an upgrade over the gs3

The 5s will get 2 mores cores? And a bigger screen along with a bigger battery? I doubt it and you sound like everyone in the line commercial saying we'll get that soon right lol

I also love the way you generalize the faster CPU part and say ya the iPhone will get that Lol

The gs4 CPU performance more then doubled and not some little 31% were talking 130-180% if you include the exynos octo core and the monster clocked Korean version

 

[lousada]

So you know, you're on the wrong forum?

And why is that?
Am I only allowed here if I think that anything Apple launches is perfect?

 

[DariusX]

I love how all the fandroids are attacking apple for their 'lack of innovation', yet the only advantage they can list out when it comes to android are the same old "customizability, bigger screen" garbage.

Only idiots who fall for samesung's marketing believe that the S4 is not a S3S

 

[atlatnesiti]

And why is that?
Am I only allowed here if I think that anything Apple launches is perfect?

Yeah, some people on these forums will defend anything that Apple launches regardless of how pathetic it is and when you dare to point that out you are automatically regarded as a Troll. Go and figure...

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I love how all the fandroids are attacking apple for their 'lack of innovation', yet the only advantage they can list out when it comes to android are the same old "customizability, bigger screen" garbage.

Only idiots who fall for samesung's marketing believe that the S4 is not a S3S

Only idiots fall for Apple marketing and believe that iPhone 5S is not iPhone 5

 

[topper24hours]

720p to 1080p
4.7 to 5.0
Gorrila glass 2 to 3
306ppi to 441
20% power saving at same brightness over gs3
Way better calibration over gs4
Diamond matrix rgb
Can sense your finger without touching the screen
Way brighter at max brightness hitting 475
30% less reflective over gs3 screen

Now on to internals (USA model)
Dual core 1.5ghz to quad core 1.9ghz with more the 2x GPU speed increase.so we have about 130% increase in performance over gs3.iPhone 5s is rumored to have 31% over the 5.

The gs4 was also the first phone to use DDR 3 ram with way more bandwith over the gs3.

Gs3 had an 8mp camera and the gs4 got a 13mp with a bunch of new features that are not on the gs3 also.

IPhone 5 to 5s
Finger print scanner and another dual core with 1gb ram clocked a little faster to get your 31% boost


Yawnnnn wake me up when the iPhone 8 is out

Lol, I like how you expanded "better screen" into 10 hyper-specific points. Nice job reaching...

 

[befrank4444]

Where are the Apple Event invites...?!

Will they be sent out Tuesday cause...

 

[radus]

I am not alone

I bought every iPhone that came out --- but now I am very happy with the Sony Xperia ZL - and if the new Xperia 1i comes out I will buy that (even if there is not a "trade in")

why == 5" screen, gesture typing, nfc, LTE all frequencies, Android ...

 

[DariusX]

Yeah, some people on these forums will defend anything that Apple launches regardless of how pathetic it is and when you dare to point that out you are automatically regarded as a Troll. Go and figure...

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Only idiots fall for Apple marketing and believe that iPhone 5S is not iPhone 5

Says the guy dissing a phone that hasn't even been announced yet.

 

[topper24hours]

I dont understand what is the expectation about this iPhone update. It's the EXACT as iPhone 5 with some gimmicks (fingerprint scanner).

LMAO at the ignorance of people that consider this fingerprint scanner NOT innovative, or call it gimmicky, or compare it to Atrix. Lol, do some research. This IS the future. For both security & commerce. Why don't you ridiculous Luddites go picket your local grocery stores for those "gimmicky" self-scanning checkout stands. This is NOT any more like that Atrix crap, than two tin cans & a string are like a current gen smart phone. Read up on Apple's biometric acquisitions & licenses. This is a one/two punch. Not only did they buy the hardware.... but (MUCH more importantly) right after I had heard that a group of researchers created a biometric security protocol secure enough to be stand up to and be accepted by ALL of the major world banks standards, whilst NOT relying on a central database of biometric data... rather, having authentication handled locally on the machine- Apple swooped in and snatched them up.
Can you grasp this big picture? This is the very definition of innovation.. to do something WILDLY different. Create an already approved, commerce-ready biometric enabled device that NOBODY can copy. Sure, Samsung can add a fingerprint sensor (and surely will.. but hypocritically, you guys will NOT consider it gimmicky.. though it will likely come with a free pair of Mickey Mouse ears).. but it literally CANNOT be used for commerce in the way Apple's will be able to. They already OWN the ONLY tech that is secure & mature enough.. unless you know of Samsung having snapped up their own biometric hardware & software firms over the last few years???? No.. then Apple skated to where the puck is going to be. Yes, this will likely slowly roll out.. first unlock, device & sign in for app purchases, then all your passwords, then full-on ecommerce.. but, mark my words: we will all remember this as the first device to use the tech that we all take for granted, and is on all of our electronic devices.

 

[peterdevries]

LMAO at the ignorance of people that consider this fingerprint scanner NOT innovative, or call it gimmicky, or compare it to Atrix. Lol, do some research.

Well, it's clear that most people on this forum do not know what innovation is, what it takes to innovate and how organisations do these things.

In the eyes of many here, only those features that matter to them personally can be called innovation or the development of new gadgets such as the iPhone in 2007, the iPad or a possible iWatch.

If people would do a bit more research than they would find that Apple has innovated a great deal the past few years and that their products have become better as a consequence. Recent examples are:

• detection of thumbs and fingers close to the bezel to avoid the touchscreen mistaking it as input
• Development of photographic techniques to combine components to create the perfect fit for the back of the iPhone 5.
• Developing the unibody design for the iPhone and the iPad
• Development of new fans in the macbook pro line
• Development of a new cooling system for the new mac pro.

The list goes on and on. Apple is innovating, but most people here do not know what innovation is and how it matters to them.

 

[Xiroteus]

I love how all the fandroids are attacking apple for their 'lack of innovation', yet the only advantage they can list out when it comes to android are the same old "customizability, bigger screen" garbage.

Sometimes Apple has to play a bit of catch up based on their release schedule. Not sure why anyone thinks they would or should be a design change after only a year as it has never bee like that. There are only so many upgrades one can make to a phone yearly. I'm curious what the iPhone 6 will be like.

The customizability of Android is quite nice for the few days I have been using one. Flash! insanely easy to toss on video formats without having to convert it and the larger screen is nice. However it did seem to lock up and crash a few too many times, I hope that is a fluke.

 

[juanmanas]

You don't have to be so offended my friend, because after the lunch of Apple new iPhone 5S...you can find all of us on ANDROID Forum...
We are all angry do to the same unchanged APPLE design:
IT'S TIME FOR A REVOLUTION...WHO'S WITH ME !!

Pathetic.

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Yeah, some people on these forums will defend anything that Apple launches regardless of how pathetic it is and when you dare to point that out you are automatically regarded as a Troll. Go and figure...

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Only idiots fall for Apple marketing and believe that iPhone 5S is not iPhone 5

Have you ever tried to write with respect and education?

Do you know how sad is to see an android user spend hours in an apple forum? You all look like so frustrated with your devices.

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It can track when you are picking your nose and make gagging sounds. It can also track when you are oggling a woman and send an alert to your wife.

Gotta love "innovation".

;-) yes, that must be what android users call innovation.

I love those screens. Whites are like blue

 

[heimo]

You don't have to be so offended my friend, because after the lunch of Apple new iPhone 5S...you can find all of us on ANDROID Forum...
We are all angry do to the same unchanged APPLE design:
IT'S TIME FOR A REVOLUTION...WHO'S WITH ME !!

I'm SO with you! We're gonna go to Android forums, using our Android devices, and we will so be leaving MacRumors and iDevices! Yeah! That'll teach Apple! I hate the lack of change, or in case of lack of lackness, I can hate change too! What ever happens or doesn't happen, we're going to teach everyone here and Apple a lesson! Don't mess with us with your lack of change or change.

 

[drew0020]

You guys are so funny. You are moving away because the 5S (like the 4S and 3GS) isn't going to be a huge upgrade over the 5? You do know that Apple major upgrades on iPhones is every 2 years? I guess on the Android side you feel the Galaxy S4 is a major step up over the Galaxy S3?

Please spare us all the dramatics and go to an Android forum ASAP.

I an a lot of other are moving away from the iPhone. I am a VERY loyal Apple user too. I own a couple MacBook Pro computers, 2 iPads, multiple iPods, and the iPhone every year since 2007. I probably spend 3-4k a year on Apple products.

Apple from a phone perspective reminds me of blackberry 5-6 years ago. Loyal people (the ones you worry about) start slowly moving away from the platform. Then others follow and before you know it the platform loses steam.

I am not some android fan boy. I'm an apple fan but iOS is so dated, 7 which I've been using since beta 1 is a little better, but it's a skin. No need for an innovative company to take 3 years to come up with control center (and you still can't customize your top 3-4 widgets). The screen is really too small as well. At least give a choice instead it's a new gold color and a cheap plastic phone.

 

[iapplelove]

Can't wait for rMBP and Mavericks roundups

yawn..lol i can.

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Out in the real world away from the various Internet forums, I'm not hearing the usual conversation about the upcoming iPhone like I did in past years. There are several very large conferences I attend this time of year therefore I'm around lots of people, when the topic turns to smartphones it's a brief conversation and I'm in the minority with the iPhone 5 I use. Previously their was more of a balance between Android & iPhone. Times are changing for sure.

i'm finding it the opposite and i promise you i'm not saying this because i am on the side of apple. NOBODY outside of geek forums care when a new android device is released mainly because there are so many of them. I find the new iphone is still an event. Also mobile technology in general is starting to slow down imo and a bit lack luster. There isn't really a feature on android thats new and refreshing thats changing the game either.

Basically i don't see anyone lining up around the clock to get the next samsung or HTC. But mark my words in a few days it's actually quite possible to start seeing customer scalpers and fans already lining up in major cities around the world for the next iPhone. The iphone was the game changer,other companies are just spitting out clones left and right.

 

[charlesdayton]

Reports say that users of Post- Jobs Apple hardware have discovered big problems whilst trying to play Sim City.


Looks like the problem is that Apple will only allow the gamer to create exactly the same building over and over again, just slightly thinner, and with clearer windows.

Sums it up.

Good luck on launch day for your "new" iPhones! Ha ha. Ill wait til next year, thanks

Troll fail!

Sim City is made by Maxis/EA not Apple. And the Windows version is a disaster too: http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/s...nues-gamers-petition-ea-white-house-1C8769125

 

[blitzer09x87]

came her for he iWatch, disappointed. why is there so little information available about the iWatch, i wanna see more.