Re: Holy Crap! (pun intended)
I understand what your saying here. ...for the most part I agree with it.. I srongly disagree with the Jesus just being a man....of course.
Your right about following what Jesus said...not to follow any hocus pocus religion... Jesus did not come down to set up a religion or a creed or a doctrine or a set of rules.... His main mission was to save the lost and show us how to live an abundant life...Some people dont see that part because mans religion has unfortunalty coverd it for them.
People have thier views of Jesus or Christianity skewed or harmed because of the bad apples in Christianity.
This thread has gone on more then I thought it would. Im glad no one is becoming hostile. Its cool how everyone just says what they are going to say and they stay cool.
Dig it!
Originally posted by agreenster
I cant believe this thread is still going. If this keeps up, Ill win the "longest thread starter" award. That is, unless, arn shuts us down.
But i do have some comments.
Buddism, Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Scientologists, Mormons, Catholics, and Jews. What do they all have in common? None of them, not ONE person from this faith has ever died and came back to tell about it. Yes, thats right--even jesus.
FACE it people. We do NOT, and CAN not know truth regarding the afterlife. Hell nor heaven can be promised anyone, becuse we dont even know if it exists.
Faith? Faith is nothing more than the polite way of saying, "I really dont know the truth, but as long as I believe in something, and truly believe in it, then that will become truth based on that belief." Hogwash! That would be like someone jumping out of an airplane, not knowing if they have a parachute on, but believing really hard that they do, and then telling everyone else that they are going to die and go to hell if they dont start believing it too. Gimme a break!
I strongly believe that Jesus was just a man who valued love over laws and rules. And what did he manage to do? Spur a religion of rules and laws.
I believe that if jesus were alive today, he would be very, very dissapointed. I know you strongly believe that you are 'lead' by the Holy Spirit, and I know what you are feeling. (i used to be a holy roller too) But start facing the music- This world is RUN by chance, danger, and luck. Right now, someone is getting promoted, hitting the lottery, and having a baby. Right now. Also right now, someone has just been hit by a car, died of cancer, just had their husband divorce them, or lost a baby in delivery. its called life. its called earth.
Whats my point? That its silly, rediculous, and time-wasting to spend every moment thinking about God, and the church, getting to choir practice on time, or if the Holy Spirit is 'leading' you in the right direction. Its so hypocritical. people could either make a good decision and be promoted, or make the wrong one and get fired. A normal person would say, "Sheesh, looks like I made a poor decision." But the christian says, "it was the will of the Holy Spirit."
Love your fellow man. Do good in the sight of your friends and your enemies. Follow what Jesus actually said---dont follow a silly hocus pocus religion. jesus was practical and logical. I choose to be THAT kind of follower, and let the afterlife take care of itself, however it may be. Thats real courage. Thats real faith.
I understand what your saying here. ...for the most part I agree with it.. I srongly disagree with the Jesus just being a man....of course.
Your right about following what Jesus said...not to follow any hocus pocus religion... Jesus did not come down to set up a religion or a creed or a doctrine or a set of rules.... His main mission was to save the lost and show us how to live an abundant life...Some people dont see that part because mans religion has unfortunalty coverd it for them.
People have thier views of Jesus or Christianity skewed or harmed because of the bad apples in Christianity.
This thread has gone on more then I thought it would. Im glad no one is becoming hostile. Its cool how everyone just says what they are going to say and they stay cool.
Dig it!