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Can someone explain to me why iTunes 3 doesn't have mp4 (aac) audio support at all ? I can't listen, or convert to that format !! That is so stupid.:mad:
 
After considerable thought, I've come to the conclusion that this MacWorld was a big stinky doo-doo - for all the reasons already posted.

To re-iterate:
MWNY02 - A Big stinky doo-doo.
 
QT6 with MPG4 rocked on my old lowly Wallstreet laptop. A few freezes but overall I was impressed.

Love the new iPods. Thinner is better. The iPod has more organization features as well too.

Also as to .Mac 100 dollar fee I am not sure if I will go for it. What Apple really needs to do is offer one year free of .Mac with the purchase of a computer or with the purchase of OS 10.2.
129 bucks for OS 10.2 is steep for me. I got 10.1 free earlier because of my job. I've seen recent deals selling OS 10.1 for 50 bucks. In all likelyhood I will wait to buy 10.2 unless I get some great deal on it off the bat.
I changed jobs so I no longer get the free OSes from them.

Apple should bundle the .Mac access as a selling point. Hook them and then keep them.
 
Originally posted by dhdave


I was with you until you blamed "US" corporate culture. It's corporate culture period. If you don't think you have greed in Canada you are fooling yourself.

dh

Sorry, dhdave, I should have left out "US" - that was wrong.

It is clearly global corporate greed culture, and yes, its just the same here in Canada. (if not worse).
Apologies from the Frozen North!

Anyway, I want to keep my mac.com address and I will pay $20 a year for it.

Anybody wnat to pay more than that for JUST email?
 
Mac World Sucks

This mac world sucked. Woo Hoo! Lets upgrade the already non-fully funtional OS-X 10.1.5 to OS-X 10.2 (a huge .5 jump) and it will only cost you a low price of $130. Even if you just bought you dual ghz a month and a half ago. Not to mention the new features are pretty much usless to anyone in the video/ graphic design fields. Except maybe the have gotten it to finally work right, and regained the ease of use the mac had with 9.2, hell OS-X is much more complicated then Windows XP. Granted OS-X is more stable, but try to uninstall something, try to turn off certian extensions, while leaving the rest on. Not mention you have to go out and buy all new software. Now they have the nerve to Charge you for a minor update! I have been a loyal Mac user for over 10 years. I have a PC as well, but thats just for games. I work in the video production area and do all that on the mac.
Besides the minor iMac update which is nice. This was the worse Mac World I have seen in a while. Apple is getting greedy and lazy. It almost makes me want to switch back to a PC.
 
every single macworld or announcement results in bitching and moaning... it's annoying already. i thought it was a great day except for 2 things:

1. upgrade path for Jag. I even bought the beta of X, and then full release. help me out a little Apple.

2. No AAC support in iTunes3. I however DID buy QT6Pro - so I can make my mp4s there... but can only use QTPlayer to listen to 'em? *COUGH*

rest was fine with me.
 
I am like every other person out there.....

I am like every other person out there... How can I fork over 50 bucks for the 1st year, then 100 bucks every year after that, I am a student, at that a High School Student, Even though I am very Pro Mac, I SUPPORT MACS AT MY SCHOOL!!!! I do believe that this will make Apple lose some of their customers, I mean how many people would willingly put up 100 dollars a year for a storage on somebody elses server, why not get a cheap *ell, *ompaq *indows machine and put Darwin on it, enable WebDAV and there, your own server, then you could put an apple logo on it, I am starting to do that with one of my old Macs, and hopefully it will be better than paying Apple My SOUL. I don't really need new products, I need a Free Jaguar Upgrade, which will probably be on Limewire for all of that 1 day after its released, then I will get it for free, so I won't worry about that, even then, I can still get it half off with my Student Discount at Apple. I do believe that something like this will provide them with revenue, but how many people are going to actually try and buy this stuff.
 
Okay, it seems here that the majority of you guys complaining have been way too spoiled by Apple these last few years. iTools was such a godsend being free, but come on, even anyone with a little bit of common sense knew that Apple was seriously losing money performing all those services for free. Now they decide that its time to charge and everyone starts complaining and jumping ship. I've used iTools since its inception, and I'm going to pay to keep it. Sheesh, some people act like if they aren't satisfied they immediately have to go bash Apple and leave, where are you going to go? You really think Windoze is better? Please, people, think about these things before you go off saying how Apple sucks now and they've made a big mistake.

I agree, with what was said about this MacWorld sort of sounding like a sales pitch. Apple, like the rest of the computing industry is hurting. And when they need our support the most, all it seems people can do is turn their back. For shame.

-E
 
Oh, Don't get me wrong

Oh, don't get me wrong here, I will stick with iTools, I have been signed up since I knew about it, although I do believe that 50 bucks for the 1st year is way too much, I mean come on, they make the xRaid, and the xServe, granted they have to pay for it, but they still make it, they could use their own products to run this, that means they don't really have to outsource, and that means lower costs, so whos making the bundle of money here? I mean, I would love to believe that they would spend all this money on the users, but do you see that?
 
New "think different" apple strategy

Up until a few days ago, I was still hoping/waiting/holding off purchasing for updated PM's. However, yesterday like some of you, I also came to grips with the fact that no new PM's would be intro'd.

We've been "switched"; Apple's "other" switch campaign.

Let me explain:
How many past MacWorlds have there been - with the exception of those this year - where everyone pretty much knew that new kit, specifically PM's, would be intro'd??? And what was the general attitude of the average Apple user/buyer? It was to hold off purchases until the "next" MacWorld... For all of you who've been saying that no new PM's would spell the death of Apple - you're wrong. And the story that Apple is sitting on a ton of powermacs??? I ordered a dual a couple of months ago and was told I wouldn't take delivery for almost a month - so I cancelled, in expectation of an update. The real story? Apple has been slowly "switching" its loyal "prosumers" to a new way of thinking... A new way of thinking not only regarding future product and its release, but about current product and its availability!

Before, prospective buyers would wait to buy kit (as mentioned above, I - like many others - did it this time around). Yet now, since no one knows "for sure" when new kit's coming, it makes sense to buy it when there's a deal - regardless of what's coming next because it could be a month from now, or it could be 6 months from now, or it could be 12 months from now.

Think about it - if Apple had intro'd new machines today, no matter how great, we might be somewhat satisfied with the specs, but we'd be griping about the fact that we'd have to wait 2+ months until delivery. So, in either case (updated PM or not), Apple would come out the loser. Sure - if they intro'd new PowerMacs today, they would've taken a sizeable amount of orders... But what would've happened 3 months from now... Sales would've dropped, and people would be holding off purchases again until January in SanFran, because everyone expects the elusive g5... That is, until now.

Now, we're beginning to think differently, realizing that Apple will intro new stuff how they want, when they want, and when its available (MacWorld or not). Think that Apple will intro g5's at sanfran? Think again; that's the old strategy... They'll wait until they're darn good and ready. Why? Because if they continue with their old strategy of placating the "prosumers" at every Macworld, they're left with this buying attitude: "I can get by with what I have now, could hold off my purchase for another 6 months, and then buy the latest and greatest because - as always -it'll be intro'd at the next macworld"... But, Apple doesn't want us to do that anymore, because that makes the sales cycle a little TOO predictable with sales dropping 3 months before each macworld in anticipation of new kit... then, stock dropping after every macworld because people are ticked about what was expected but not intro'd/stuff that was intro'd but not yet available, etc.... THAT is what would've killed Apple - not the "no new powermacs" or anything else; just the viscious cycle of millions of Apple "loyals" waiting to buy kit until the next macworld...
That buying attitude affected sales, stock, and even gave an edge to Apple's competitors... But, no longer.

New kit will be intro'd when its ready, and it will ship shortly thereafter. I'll even venture to state that we MAY (or may not) get new powermacs in August - noone really knows for sure, of course; and because of that, I bet there are a few more of you out there who are pondering the dual gig at a pretty darn good deal: and why not? Just sitting around waiting for the latest and greatest isn't going to make us any $.

It just makes sense - the "other" switch: people buying now, when stuff is available, rather than waiting until each macworld comes along. Why, its as big a concept, if not bigger, than getting windows users to switch to mac.

I'd venture to guess that at this point, given what's happened over the last 7 months, most Apple loyals will no longer spend the majority of their time drooling over what "could be" at the next MacWorld, but will be grateful for what "is available now" because its available, it does the job, and its a heck of a lot le$$ than it was a few months ago! (so we don't have updated PM's, at least the price whent down! How many of you have been asking for lower prices, and when we finally got them, you still held off your purchase because you believed that lower prices meant new powermacs...?) Sales will FINALLY stabalize, and those of you with Apple stock will finally see it go up again...

Yup. The "other" Apple switch campaign...
 
2 words.......it s***ed.
have you seen what those new imacs cost over here. (even without sales tax).........they wont sell em......
I have so many things to bitch about but im just to upset to type it all.....maybe later.
 
righton PC2Mac, you said that very intelligently and I think you are absolutely right. I haven't bout a new machine in two and a half years, and even if a four Ghz G5 had been released today, I still wouldn't becuase my three year old machines run fine and have all the power I need. Sure, they are a little slow next to the hotness thats out now, but so what. Everybody is in a rush when they should be thankful for what they have. I'm sick of people complaining because they can't spend daddy's money on a toy that they really don't have the power requirements to need.

Cool points are one thing, and actual useability is another. Anyone who uses a mac has a reason, and it isn't raw processing power.
 
Well said that man (pc2mac_convert).

It reminds me a bit of car sales here in the UK.

They used to be sold once a year, and the market was 'false' for this period.
Now it is twice a year, but with new fangled registration plates resulting in noone remembering which one is for which year etc. Now there is not such a kind-of-false market, and people aren't looking out for the next new big thing quite as much.

Car dealers are MUCH happier now as sales are spread over the whole year.

Similarities?

You decide....
 
Originally posted by drastik:

Anyone who uses a mac has a reason, and it isn't raw processing power.
I respectfully, but totally, disagree drastik. The RISC architecture in the Macintosh already has more "raw processing power" than X86.
My Mac is a 6 year old 7500 with a 200mhz processor card from a 9500. I am 32 with a family, so the only "Daddy's money" I'm spending is my own. I'm thankful for what I have, but it's about time for an upgrade. While I'd love dual processors and actually could USE them, I can't afford them. What I CAN afford is a faster system bus with DDR and that's what I'm hoping for with the next PM. I will still buy it on the low end and upgrade it as I can, and it will have to last for years. (And of course I know it will)

dh
 
Originally posted by King Cobra
Honestly, I am extremely disappointed, since I could not see 99% of the broadcast.
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I saw 99% of the broadcast and then in the last few minutes it cut off :mad: but the feed was very clear and the audio was nearly perfect, very impressed with QT6. I was generally happy with MWNY and can't understand the reaction people are having with what was released iTunes 3 its off the hook. Do you think the disappointment that people are having with this years MWNY could have something to do with Mac rumors sites and the level of expectation they helped build in your minds and when it was impossible to be realisticly reached you have the nerve to blame Apple? (no wonder steve wants to do away with them).

The iApps will continue to be free that will not change so what's the problem.They improved some of the hardware and next month they'll update the pro-line so again what are people bitching about, innovation coast money ideas can't be given away. I can't believe that this service charge of .Mac is over shadowing the bigger picture of what Apple is trying to do here. Their former slogan was "Think different" not "Think small" and if you didn't like those maybe you should try this one "Don't worry be happy":p
 
whiners

I never thought the iTools were worth the trouble in the first place, but the kind of cost they're talking about is nothing. Hosting ain't cheap. You oughta see my bills sometime. Hell, the write-off I take is more than what Apple is asking for, considerably more. Get a grip.

As for the show, I am somewhat less than excited, but I think Apple's strategy makes sense. They are not going to double their marketshare by going after the pro market, they just aren't. If they can bring more consumers into the fold with iMacs, iApps, iDevices, etc., you are going to see more third party apps, more R&D, your current investment will be safer, and ultimately, there will be a bigger need for pro equipment.

Oh, If you think that faster means more interest, think again. Consumers don't generally use the speed they already have, and upgrading doesn't make sense to them. Now, giving them new ways to use their computers in daily life, and make it easy for them, that's another story.

My prediction is that consumer products will dominate future MacWorlds for a long time to come. Pro-only announcements, on the other hand, will be a lot softer and spread out.
 
TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED NEW MAC USER!!!

I am a totally disappointed new mac user.

So I decided to switch from PC to Mac about 37 days ago.

I have bought myself a top of the line iMac G4 800, thought I will love it, and I did, it comes with OSX 10.15 and all that, nice.

Then I go get myself the ipod 10 Gig, it came in a little over a week ago.

Now I am totally pissed off because my 1 week old ipod has a price reduction of $100 US plus new model

My 37 days old imac has been replaced with one with a bigger screen/harddrive for the same price.

And I have to pay $129 for the crappy upgrade to OSX 10.2.

Apple, there is a reason why there are still so many PC users, they don't get shaft like that, never. Microsoft might be bad but I think this is rediculous. And what's with those OS upgrade coupons included with my imac, are they like wasted or what???

Man I am pissed off!!!
 
Re: TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED NEW MAC USER!!!

Originally posted by CedMan
And what's with those OS upgrade coupons included with my imac, are they like wasted or what???

Use those coupons to get 10.2 at a reduced price. :rolleyes:

What else were you planing on using them for?
 
Re: TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED NEW MAC USER!!!

Originally posted by CedMan
I am a totally disappointed new mac user.

So I decided to switch from PC to Mac about 37 days ago.

I have bought myself a top of the line iMac G4 800, thought I will love it, and I did, it comes with OSX 10.15 and all that, nice.

Then I go get myself the ipod 10 Gig, it came in a little over a week ago.

Now I am totally pissed off because my 1 week old ipod has a price reduction of $100 US plus new model

My 37 days old imac has been replaced with one with a bigger screen/harddrive for the same price.

And I have to pay $129 for the crappy upgrade to OSX 10.2.

Apple, there is a reason why there are still so many PC users, they don't get shaft like that, never. Microsoft might be bad but I think this is rediculous. And what's with those OS upgrade coupons included with my imac, are they like wasted or what???

Man I am pissed off!!!

Is this your first computer purchase? There is always something bigger, faster, cheaper around the bend. Pissed at Apple? Be pissed at yourself for buying a month before MWNY.
 
Just a few points.

The mpeg4 broadcast was flawless.
All the new Apps are fantastic.
Banging on about how great AAC is and not including it in iTunes 3 is ridiculous but will be altered very soon.
It was a software-centered Expo and as such really really good.
The 17' iMac is just sexy.
The .mac scheme sucks a little.
Every Keynote is good entertainment.
If you think you'll find a Wintel box that is substantially faster than a dual 1 Gig Power Mac you're completely insane.
 
Re: Re: free now not free

Originally posted by bretm

Business users can't afford NOT to pay for the service. It would cost them more money to send out the email change notifications. Maybe they should have a new iCard... Hey! I've just dropped my expensive email account. You can now find me at @hotmail.com.

bretm--

I may be wrong, but I don't believe iTools was EVER intended for business use; in fact, it's possible that there was something in the original sign-up agreement that stated something along those lines. It was really meant for personal use--family photos, home movies, etc etc.

No offense intended, but anyone running a business should know better than to utilize a free service for something as crucial as web hosting/e-mail anyway. If you were opening a physical store and someone offered you free rent without asking anything in return, would you trust your entire enterprise to that? Same thing with a business website--find a reliable hosting service with reasonable rates and register your own domain name.

--BlueDjinn

p.s. however, I do agree that they should have also offered some sort of stripped-down "basic" version for free (or $20/year or whatever) instead of a double-or-nothing deal.
 
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