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I wouldnt buy a MBP then!!!!!

You would if you want that performance in a portable machine. Besides, the MBP has a dual-GPU for battery life, something that isn't required for the Mini. Reducing the components will reduce the cost.

The MacBook upgrade indicates that Apple knows that people are interested in gaming on their platform. Using the same GPU as the Macbook is a possibility, but I hope they'll opt for the one in the MBP, at least as a BTO option. You're much more likely to need that power on a desktop than a laptop, and the desktop has more space for cooling apparatus.

But surely we would've heard about it / beta on the iphone dev site? Or have i missed that :eek:

Not necessarily. Apple didn't release any betas of the 2.0 firmware until it had it's public announcement. So long as developers are given adequate time to test their applications, they don't need to know about new firmware.

I do expect to hear something about an iPhone software update, though: push notifications were announced and work started ages ago, and it's going to look embarrassing that Apple still can't deliver it. I'm also hoping they can wake up and add simple features like landscape email/SMS, even if they won't tackle the more complicated issue of copy and paste.
 
i don't know what it more disappointing. that AppleInsider felt the need to post this total non news. Or that MacRumors felt the need to repost it.
AppleInsider just posted the pictures of MacWorld prep when MacRumors re posted it.
P.S. The banners are not covered but folded in half, look at the pic below.
 

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Basically.

Why can't we get some spy shots taken by some people that have some actual skill, or with those with better than iPhone cameras.

One day, there just might be a spy shot that is not only convincing, but in focus as well.
If you look at the original photo you will see that is a camera that is way better than the iPhone. These pics were taken with a high megapixel camera.
 

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wait... are you saying Apple's not going to unveil ANYTHING!? What?Say,What?


No. I'm saying that the banners, or lack there of, means nothing. Other than that they don't want photos all over the Internet ahead of time.

they might release something, they might not.

So whats really wrong with Steve. Why wont he talk for the last time? Why cant he properly say goodbye to Macworld.

Cause it is not his baby.

Apple hosts the WWDC, Macworld is a totally different company. Apple has basically don't them a favor over the past several years by holding at least one major announcement at the event.

But Apple doesn't need Macworld. It's the other way around. They need Apple to draw folks to the whole shindig. But it's not the best move for Apple to be a part of MW anymore. They still have WWDC, they still have the ability to do local announcements etc.

So they are getting out of the relationship. Why spend the time and the money on something they aren't getting that much out of anymore. It's a stupid move business wise.

And it's a smart plan to continue the move to showing the world the other brains at Apple. having a non Steve keynote has been in the works for a while. just dumb luck this is how the timing fell. Personally I think it is because they aren't going to release any brand new items but rather a long list of overdue clean ups to things they have neglected while they made the next great thing. which is a perfect time to have someone other than Steve RockStar UberGodofAllThingsAppleNewReleases Jobs doing the speech.

For a long shot Id say "one more thing" of an updated AppleTV that does 1080p video (after all the hardware specs have not been updated on it in two years now) but I doubt it.

while it is true that the specs haven't been updated, the issue there isn't the Apple TV. it's the file sizes. 720 files are already 1GB and up. And that's for an hour of video. Downloading and storing full 1080 files would be even worse.

until we get some large form of storage, perhaps even a machine that could be set up as a home media server (personally I think a mini home server that could be set to do media, basic files or ever just backups according to the news of the home would be brilliant), we aren't as likely to see full HD. which for most consumers is not an issue cause they can barely tell 720 from standard.
 
Well, I do not want to start another rash of posts, but I do not know what your talking about ... After the first few weeks, Mobile Me was acceptable to me

congrats. Not everyone's mileage has been the same. Still isn't.

Seriously I want to know - because there is a rumor :rolleyes: (maybe a joke) about the iphone nano coming to sprint.

IF there was a nano, it would, like all iphones, but ATT only at this time.


I was referring to a statement of why all the news at the last minute

3 weeks ago is not last minute. last minute is the morning of, or even the day before.

and maybe a little information on the future direction of apple.

in solid terms, don't count on it. that sort of thing falls into the grey areas of confidential. The best you will likely get is vague clues from what they announce about products and services.

as for the consumer thing. they are a company. companies want to make money, lots of it. the professional market wasn't as viable, so they expanded.

I think that the only software move that would be exciting enough to be the centerpiece of the final Macworld would be the ultimate software move - Apple announcing that they are freeing OS X from being on Apple-only hardware and would allow OS X to install on any hardware. .

not going to happen. probably ever but certainly not in the foreseeable future.

Why? Because at this point legally they don't have to.

If the iPhone or any version of it were ever on Sprint's network I'd be more excited to NOT have to pay full price for a damaged/lost/stolen phone. Getting a new one in the mail within a week or sending the damaged phone in for a new on immediately would be a HUGE plus for lots of intelligent buyers.

that assumes that Sprint wouldn't change their policies

Other than that the bill would be much more reasonable,

that assumes Sprint wouldn't change their rates, have a special Iphone plan. after all, they know that folks will pay that much a month to have an iphone. so why not milk it for all you can

and the 3G speeds much more consistent and faster.

assuming their coverage is enough to handle the load

Not to mention the already happening rollout of WiMax.

which isn't supported by the hardware (hell the iphone isn't even 802.11n yet) and not likely to be until after a lot more of the rollout is complete. I'd keep

Is Steve really ok? Is he sick? Is he really going to retire soon now and fade away? Say it ain't so Apple :( I will never have my dream of seeing a Stevenote live realized now it seems :(


well there are those that think that he's been lying since day one and dying since day one and he's going to kick the bucket any day. so take that for what you will

and yes he will retire and if you think that he hasn't created an Apple that can move on without him, then time to sell your stock and move on and back to the land of bill gates. I mean seriously. why do you think he hasn't done the announcements solo the last few times. to show folks that the whole of Apple is not him. He's got to be sick of everyone thinking he's the only brain, that he's all that matters, that apple is Steve Jobs and will die if he ever leaves. which is why the obsession with his health and the rampant belief that he has to tell all, to the point some folks claim he is legally bound to reveal everything at all times.

In other words, they're preparing for the transition to occur.

they have been preparing for it. doesn't mean it will happen at Macworld.

Read this Gizmodo story about Steve's health.

Giz is often full of crap. they reference unnamed sources etc. it reeks more of someone there wanting to buy Apple stock cheap right before a potentially big announcement than any truth.

What this doesn't explain is the timing of Apple's announcement. They could have announced that they won't be returning anytime after the show, or even during the keynote.

or the simple fact that someone would leak it out and make it seem worse than it is. make it seem like they are lying about everything and Steve is actually already die blah blah. so it was a risk they decided to take thinking that announcing it earlier the rumors wouldn't be as bad

Perhaps Apple is angry about the interview with the IDG exec that Jobs would be there, and just wants to punish IDG.

yeah Apple is angry that some yahoo at Businessweek was told by IDG that there had not been an official announcement but they expected Jobs would do the keynote, and that yahoo wrote in his column that Jobs would be there for sure.

if anyone needs to be punished it is the guy at Businessweek that can't listen to what is actually being said.

Pulling out of Macworld is no big deal. All trade shows are suffering. It's a very expensive thing to put on, and it's really only journalists who attend. It happened to E3 in the video games market, and it's happening to Macworld. Smaller, more frequent events at a campus you own is much cheaper, and those same journalists get to report the same news.

bingo. and exactly what Apple has been saying. but folks just have to believe they are lying. and it's all about -- you guessed it -- Steve. Steve, Steve, Steve.

and why Apple isn't pulling out of WWDC.
well WWDC is Apple's show.

personally im looking forward to snow leopard most. i hope we get more info about it and it will be really different performance wise.(demos!!!)

then you will be a tad disappointed.

they have already said that Snow Leopard is just a massive improvement, not a redesign.

which could be reflected in this other and more logical rumor, that this year will be the year of making existing stuff before and not trying to make 15 new great things.

I'd buy a Mini if it had graphics performance on par with the MBP.

the Mini is more likely to have the graphics of a MacBook, not a MB Pro. which is still better than it has now.

The Mini was designed as a transitional machine. something for the Wintel folks that didn't need a ton of power, didn't want to waste money on a new monitor etc when they have a perfectly good one at home.

not as a media server etc.

which is an interesting thought and one that is in the rumor mill. but I expect nothing of such a nature to be mentioned at MW, maybe WWDC to release just before the holidays, if this year at all (or even at all in general)
 
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That looks promising... anyone in the Moscone area, see if there's anything new!

3 days, 9 hours, 45 minutes to go...

OK, here are more pictures of those folded banners I took this morning.

When I was outside taking taking those pictures, some security guy came out and told me to stop. When I ignored him he mumbled something about the police - as if that was gonna scare me.

Yeah :p After all I wasn't trespassing, I was outside on public grounds. This is San Francisco, not Baghdad or some police state where people are intimidated by threats of involving the authorities.
 
the Mini is more likely to have the graphics of a MacBook, not a MB Pro. which is still better than it has now.

The Mini was designed as a transitional machine. something for the Wintel folks that didn't need a ton of power, didn't want to waste money on a new monitor etc when they have a perfectly good one at home.

not as a media server etc.

which is an interesting thought and one that is in the rumor mill. but I expect nothing of such a nature to be mentioned at MW, maybe WWDC to release just before the holidays, if this year at all (or even at all in general)

The original mini used Intel chipsets, which meant that if Apple wanted to use a more powerful video card, they'd have to include a PCIe bus. That's not the case with the NVidia chipsets, as they can use NVidia's more powerful onboard GPUs with minimal circuitry changes. I expect the MBP GPU to be offered, probably as a BTO option.

Regardless of what it was designed for, people use the Mini as a media server. Apple acknowledge its varied uses on their product site ("for inspiration, not instruction"). Adding a more capable GPU would allow the mini to serve 1080p video with ease, and try to breathe fresh life in to Mac gaming - one of the biggest problems affecting switchers, and something Apple has recently been trying to rejuvenate with the updated MacBooks. The MacBook GPU does that, but the MBP GPU would do even better. With the electronic differences being so minor, it makes sense to offer it.

There has already been speculation that a second SATA port will be added for people who use the mini in this way. Adding a better GPU doesn't seem like a stretch following the same logic, assuming the rumours are accurate.
 
Macworld hints

References to "Small Talk" are directly related to the announcement of an iPhone mini / nano. Rumored specs on the web are mostly accurate.

References to "A new era" are related to the announcement that Steve Jobs is retiring from Apple. Don't expect health related reasons to come up though.

This is concrete. Count on it.
 
References to "Small Talk" are directly related to the announcement of an iPhone mini / nano. Rumored specs on the web are mostly accurate.

References to "A new era" are related to the announcement that Steve Jobs is retiring from Apple. Don't expect health related reasons to come up though.

This is concrete. Count on it.
Arent the "new era" posters macworlds, not apples?

This is the last time apple will be at macworld, the end of an era....
 
well...

netbook aint happnin.....
if that is al gore hes prolly just there to give a "green report" to say how proud he is of the new macbook line :)

and then there is the mac mini...who knows..i dont

an iphone nano and a netbook seem farfetched

im hoping for the 30 in cinema screen update and snow leopard :)
 
Al Gore would actually have the star power to fill Steve's shoes... although he wouldn't have his design sense. Sigh... Oh Steve, why must you be so irreplaceable... surely there must be some other brilliant, brooding, perfectionistic, fiercely private, design-loving techie out there with awesome communication skills. I think Apple needs to hire the same people who pick the Dalai Lama to find someone with the same spirit as Steve for a spare.

Al Gore, star power? Are you kidding? I have a hard enough time supporting Apple with Al Gore on the board - if he became a public figure for Apple, it would likely tarnish Apple's image even more. If that ever happens, I swear I'll never buy another apple product again - or at least until he is decoupled from the company. That guy is such a twoface career politician, it blows my mind people give the guy any attention.
 
The person shown in the spyshot is Paul Otellini. CEO of Intel. He will be talking up the Quad-Core and i7 chips that are in the new iMac/ Mac Pro.

iLife'09 goes into the clouds with an increase in storage for MobileMe subscribers.

Mac Mini gets faster dual-core CPU with the same nVidia chipsets the new Macbooks have along with a dedicated graphics processor like the MBP. That will be connected to the new mini displayport.

Front Row gets upgraded to 3.0.

MacMedia Center is a standalone media server similar to the HP model but it uses Snow Leopard and FR 3.0. Available March 2009 for $599/500GB sata HD. $799/1TB HD. Both will have HDMI to connect to your wide-screen HD TV. Both will also have external USB 3.0 connectors. The Mac Pro won't be out until June.

Snow Leopard will be out March 2009. 64-bit pure Cocoa. We will see iTunes 8.1 preview coming in March.

Special pricing on MobileMe ( due mainly to the flubs on Apple's part ) $99 pricetag. 4 email addy's. $149 family plan/8 email addy's.

We will not see or hear from Steve Jobs.
 
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ummmm....not to nit-pick here, but those are not white coverings on the banners, they are simply the banners folded in half, tied up by ropes. one good tug on a rope, and we can read what the banner says.
 
The person shown in the spyshot is Paul Otellini. CEO of Intel. He will be talking up the Quad-Core and i7 chips that are in the new iMac/ Mac Pro.

May I have a toke off that bone?

zzzzzzzzzzhhhhhhhh!!! <cough> <cough>

Yes, I see it - the quad Core i7 Mini-Tower, available 7 January with up to 12 GiB of DDR3 RAM, 300 watt dual PCIe 2.0 x16 SLI/Crossfire graphics with standard DisplayPort and dual-link DVI connectors (no proprietary mini-crap stuff), 4 hot swap SATA 3Gbps disk bays with 4 eSATA ports on the back, front panel FW400 and FW800 ports, two rear FW400 and four rear FW800 ports ....

Whoa, gimme another hit....
 
"First time attendees"

...And also last.

MacWorld has already announced dates for next year. THAT will probably be the last one, unless IDG can come up with something to replace the keynote with.
 
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