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me too but the concern is there because all the rumors point to Apple designing MagSafe to be a replacement for the lightning port in the next few years, perhaps as soon as next year. soon MagSafe will be our ONLY option...
I'd doubt it would be magsafe only but I can see a portless QI/magsafe charging iphone coming the only draw for it not being a portless phone would be ability now to physically connect the phone to download information/force updates/fixes, i suppose they could use a similar style connector as the smart keyboard??
 
all the rumors point to
Zero rumors point to that. Zero.

This is just the idle speculation by clueless people who think the advent of inductive charging and some bluetooth headphones suddenly make a port on iPhone unnecssary. There are so many reasons why that isn't the case that it's exhausting to have list them every time someone mentions "portless iPhone".
 
If Apple gets any more Brave, I'm gonna puke.

Saving the planet? what a joke, shame on you Apple.

I agree with others, a simple lightning cable will charge faster. I do have a Qi charger at bedside and that slow charge is fine overnight.
 
I'd doubt it would be magsafe only but I can see a portless QI/magsafe charging iphone coming the only draw for it not being a portless phone would be ability now to physically connect the phone to download information/force updates/fixes, i suppose they could use a similar style connector as the smart keyboard??
I hope you're right as many of us homepod owners were pretty irritated having to get the speakers replaced after they were bricked from a bad update. If Apple put in a lightning connector, my homepods could've been saved with DFU restore. Magsafe only iPhones means if bricked, means no iphone until Apple replaces it. Not to mention the slow charging speeds
 
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I hope you're right as many of us homepod owners were pretty irritated having to get the speakers replaced after they were bricked from a bad update. If Apple put in a lightning connector, my homepods could've been saved with DFU restore. Magsafe only iPhones means if bricked, means no iphone until Apple replaces it. Not to mention the slow charging speeds

I ... for one... hope the days of a port-less iPhone are a long... long ways away. That said... My desk would look a lot nicer without a ton of cables all over it. My desk is a mess anyway so...
 
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And due top this video it has made me buy the 20w charger when ordering magsafe. Future proofing is my decision really as i know this is what we will need to have when it does go portless.
Are you kidding? When they go portless with the iPhone 13 or 14 they will have MagSafe 2.0 with 20W charging with the all new small 30W charger! $$$$$
 
iphone 12 owners have paid all that money but yet to get optimal charging performance out of that product, you have to pay extra for it.!!!! iphone 12 owners are being scammed and yet they cannot see it
 
Why wouldn’t the higher watt like MacBook 96w one charger slower I would think that would be more than enough to charge at 15w can someone explain why the 20w chargers faster than a 96w charger
Presumably because they're using a USB PD profile for 15W that the 96w charger doesn't support. Maybe a custom one that's not in the USB PD spec? (I hope not, but it would explain why other companies chargers don't give 15W)

If the MagSafe charger can supply 15W to the iPhone 12, I wonder how much it draws from the 20W charger - accounting for the losses that naturally go with wireless charging?
 
Has anyone considered that the meter may be interfering with the test? I would like to see the same test with an AC based meter, like a "Kill-a-watt P3".
my suspicion its the heat built up that cause his slower charging reading. heat will cause power management unit in the phone to pull low ampere!
 
Presumably because they're using a USB PD profile for 15W that the 96w charger doesn't support. Maybe a custom one that's not in the USB PD spec? (I hope not, but it would explain why other companies chargers don't give 15W)

If the MagSafe charger can supply 15W to the iPhone 12, I wonder how much it draws from the 20W charger - accounting for the losses that naturally go with wireless charging?
pls watch my video(few posts before). his video is so wrong. it works. we dont have to speculate it more. as long its PD it will get 15-18 watts when the phone is in the right condition! temperature, low battery percentage, decent high quality usb C cable etc
 
pls watch my video(few posts before). his video is so wrong. it works. we dont have to speculate it more. as long its PD it will get 15-18 watts when the phone is in the right condition! temperature, low battery percentage, decent high quality usb C cable etc

If this is the case (which - I get my MagSafe chargers tomorrow and I suspect is the case) - then this has been a lot of outrage over nothing. People love to be outraged.
 
i did my own test it turn out completely differently. my 3rd party chargers works at 18 watts even.

do take a look!


Good video. Thanks.

I think you proved it - you even show when it gets 39C it slows down. But you prove that you can get 18w on other chargers. Absolutely amazing. Nice job.
 
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Pretty sure that Macrumors biggest problem is the volume of people posting things here who have no idea what they're talking about. Someone babbling about banning wireless charging and the environment certainly qualifies.
So you are suggesting if people who are out of their area of expertise stop posting and babbling there wouldn't be as much drama and hyperbole? Yep I whole-heartedly agree.
 
You are ignoring the fine print. Intentionally? Probably. The price for the Mini is $729 (available for $699 with carrier discount). Same applies to the 12.
Apple is advertising the "after carrier discount" price. You pay the full price, then receive a credit from the carrier after a certain period of time. Also, the carrier most likely charges an activation fee. Sooooo....
If we ignore the trade-in (and the memory was bumped), even with a special deal...does it matter? If many people such as myself use a carrier deal, the price is still $699. But I can see your point.
 
iphone 12 owners have paid all that money but yet to get optimal charging performance out of that product, you have to pay extra for it.!!!! iphone 12 owners are being scammed and yet they cannot see it
This is no different for the iphone 11, iphone xs and iphone x. Apple included a 5w charger, but these phones are capable of being charged faster. With iphone 12, it's BYOC.
 
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