The more I read about MagSafe, the less interested I am in the product. The irony is that wired charging (USB-C t Lightning) has improved significantly in recent years for iPhones. I will continue to use the various Apple and Anker bricks I have. Wireless charging in general ins’t as efficient or fast.
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MagSafe Charger Only Charges at Full 15W Speeds With Apple's 20W Power Adapter [Updated]
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I’ve clocked my Anker PowerPort Atom III at 15.25 watts using Apple’s MagSafe charger on my wife’s iPhone 12.
The thought here is 'many'.
IF we had numbers to qualify this thought vs the rebuttal in this debate it would help quell one or the other.
As in:
How many iPhone users that own an iPhone 5/5S/SE or newer have an iPad 6/iPad Air 3 (of each shipped with USB-C charging wall plug)?
How many iPhone users own an Android phone in the household ~ which would most likely equal a USB-C charging wall plug (if device is newer than 5yrs)?
Personally I've owned just a few Android devices (work or personal) and sold them soon after, non had a USB-C charger/cable. I've owned a Sony WF-1000XM3 headset (3 times in 4mths) as I couldn't make up my mind between that and AirPods Pro's before settling on the latter. During holiday season last year a great sale at Amazon for Anker PD2 USB-C chargers was on and I took advantage of buying 2 (one 30W and another 60W) for under $100CAN. I also own a JuJu vape battery which A-HA uses USB-C cable and charger so ... it's compatible with my Anker's.
You have to look deeper into what other devices in the household are possible before strawman labelling an iPhone user 'must' purchase a usb-c charger.
I read it. I understand it, kind of. And then I ask myself: Why? What crazy mind created a design like this? The sensible way would be that the charger declares which of the three voltages it can supply, at what maximum current. And then the device declares which voltage it wants, an how much current. And then the charger supplies what the device asks for, with current limited to what the charger can supply, and what the device allows.
The new MagSafe connector is kind of genius. I didn't realize how annoying and fiddly it is to adjust the position of my iPhone on my cheap IKEA Qi-Charger to get it into the right position for charging.
But unlike Apple I do care for the environemnt as well as my purse and will just continue using my current gear
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But unlike Apple I do care for the environemnt as well as my purse and will just continue using my current gear
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That is pure speculation and totally not an apples-to-apples (pun intended) comparison. However you bring up a good point, in that maybe wireless charging should be outlawed by law since it is inefficient. And while we're on this type of conversation, bring back the gas guzzler tax, 5 cent bottle rebate since there is this great concern about how inefficient magsafe is and how that reflects on the environment. /s
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It's funny because if Apple didn't promote it and give it a well loved and proven name, it would be a minor feature that no one cares about.
But because the iPhone 12 update was such a snore fest, it became a prominent feature, and now a prominent PR nightmare.
But because the iPhone 12 update was such a snore fest, it became a prominent feature, and now a prominent PR nightmare.
What we need to outlaw are people like you getting your uninformed nonsense onto the internet.
This is getting... a bit ridiculous. Hopefully, this is just an oversight and will be remedied shortly, but still, get it together Apple! All that said, if you buy a phone or charging pad, they should give a charger for free if you request it. Otherwise the whole, "We're doing this for the environment!" rings hollow when you have to pay more for a charger that will charge your device at the speed it's capable of instead of being able to use what you already have.
Off-topic posts like this are what gives MacRumors a bad name. Maybe post something relevant to the topic. (and you know what "they" say about opinions...) But I do thank you, as I forgot the "/s".
Hey, but we’re saving the environment and everyone has a 20w charger with USB type C at home, anyway. Right?
Because profits. Because greed. Because Apple.
iPhones are $50 more this year. The price Apple advertises is with a carrier discount. Then, another $20 for the right charger.
The line-up starts at the same price as last year and the pro max starts at the same price as last year as well.
Great video and trial process! I already have an iPad charger. I believe Apple should raise the price of each MagSafe compatible iPhone by $50 to include Magsafe and a 20-watt brick in the packaging.
$60 retail for both MagSafe and brick are not a lot of money guys!
$60 retail for both MagSafe and brick are not a lot of money guys!
Testing and safety. You test against a limited set of variables, and make sure your design meets those variables. You certify against those variables.
If you do dynamic negotiation, you start introducing more and more complexity to a power delivery system - systems which have a tendency to get hot and catch fire.
From another company? Perhaps.
From Apple? Nah, actually was expecting it.
thats courage for you!
Sadly probably because the 20W has circuitry in it designed to maximize the charging for the iPhone's battery/heating/etc while the 96W is just full-bore powerful. From the comment about heat management I'm betting that Apple's 20w monitors the heat in the iPhone battery to throttle back, while 96W chargers don't do that.
I'll be cancelling that MagSafe charger order.
I'm on the annual replacement plan for my phone. And I need it to be charged to work. And 5G runs the battery down more.
So I think it's pretty normal to want to charge a device faster, when that device is capable of being charged faster, and the company advertises the faster charging.
After using +/Max sized phones since the 6+, I'm pleasantly surprised at how fast my 12 Pro charges with a Macbook/20w Anker charger. Zoom!
* The Pro line-up. Others not without carrier discount. Apple is charging $30 more.
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that's for ONE set. I have 4 charging stations around my house. wireless is a joke anyways...so to spend $60 per charging station in the house is ridiculous.