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What is missing here is that it charges fast up to 80% and then it slows down and wireless and connected should be the same on the last leg. But what she doesn't get, is that I use wireless charging over night for convenience where speed is not a factor.
 
Magsafe is something that I don't understand at all, if it sticks to the iPhone doesn't that negate the benefits of wireless charging? If it's not place and forget, might as well use the lightning port for faster charging?

Honestly, ever since I got the X about 3 years ago I have had the same 20$ wireless charging stand and it has worked perfectly.

Rumors say that USB-C ports will be removed in the future to provide a total water-proofing for iPhones and so this idea came up.

Apple just didn't nailed this one.
 
But the sad reality is that there are still plenty of those who gladly hand over money for anything Apple makes, no matter how overpriced, poor quality, not very functional etc.
You are a Samsung sheep? But I guess they should then send their iPhone also :)
 
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Zero surprise, basically a non-issue. If people want fast charge times, plug in the cable - it's likely to be quicker than most forms of wireless charging.

However, I do worry slightly that if Apple do decide to remove the Lightning port soon, that option wouldn't exist... which would be a pain.

There's lots of talk about Apple ditching the port next year, but the elephant in the room seems to be CarPlay. There are millions of brand new cars that used (wired) CarPlay as a selling feature, and the manufacturers will still be churning them out of the factories next year when the next iPhone launches. Apple loses out as people who rely on CarPlay aren't going to upgrade their phones as they'll no longer work, car manufacturers get mad at Apple because suddenly one of their selling points becomes totally useless for all new iPhone owners. Wireless CarPlay will be great, but it doesn't help the millions of wired CarPlay vehicles on the roads. Maybe we will see data-over-MagSafe, as this would be the only real solution I could see here.
 
Can someone receiving it today please test 0-100%?

0-50% is not representative of the whole 0-100 charge as both will slow down but maybe the usb-c disproportionally.

I mean, usb-c 20W will still destroy magsafe, but not this much.
0-50% is literally the range where the 20W charger sprints like Usain Bolt.
I made a topic yesterday on that ! ;)

In short :
A French media (01net) has tested for a week the 12/12 Pro and they measured 0-100% charging times.

Charging time 20W wired 0-100% (12/12Pro) : 1h39
Charging time 15W Magsafe 0-100% (12/12Pro) : 3h21

Conclusion : Magsafe 15W is 2x slower than wired 20w for both 0-50% and 0-100% !
 
does the magsafe still work through a thin non-magsafe case? i know the Qi charging still will, but will the faster-than-qi still work?
 
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There's lots of talk about Apple ditching the port next year, but the elephant in the room seems to be CarPlay. There are millions of brand new cars that used (wired) CarPlay as a selling feature, and the manufacturers will still be churning them out of the factories next year when the next iPhone launches. Apple loses out as people who rely on CarPlay aren't going to upgrade their phones as they'll no longer work, car manufacturers get mad at Apple because suddenly one of their selling points becomes totally useless for all new iPhone owners. Wireless CarPlay will be great, but it doesn't help the millions of wired CarPlay vehicles on the roads. Maybe we will see data-over-MagSafe, as this would be the only real solution I could see here.
How about a dongle-like device that plugs into a car and provides wireless CarPlay?

Mind, I agree that data over MagSafe has lots to commend it as an option.
 
Anyone know if an enhanced MagSafe, possibly a few more turns in the coils, could ramp up charging performance? That is, would it be a reasonable and sensible approach?

And whether such an improvement would speed up charging of iPhones 12 or would only work for next-gen 2021 phones?
 
In the end I cancelled my orders and will be returning my MagSafe wallet (didnt like how easily it slid off the phone in the MKBHD vid), MagSafe charger (cable is too damned short or I’d love it, will rebuy when 2m is released), and my clear case. Decided to go caseless, I can’t stand covering up a $1099 device. I’ll just get AppleCare.
 
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Rumors say that USB-C ports will be removed in the future to provide a total water-proofing for iPhones and so this idea came up.

Apple just didn't nailed this one.

Everyone seems forget DFU, when something bad happens and we can fix it instantly by restoring through iTunes/MacOS. Impossible with port-less iPhone.
 
They really seem to have screwed up MagSafe.

Not in terms of the wireless charging speeds - that's to be expected.

I mean in terms of the strength of the magnets and the alignment. I was expecting it to be really strong and grippy. At the moment it seems to be kind of... pallid. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence that accessories won't fall off.

It feels like they designed the concept around stronger magnets then discovered an issue of some sort and switched to weaker ones at the last minute.
 
Because induction charging is incredibly inefficient too, so you send 15w to get about 8-9w charging, where as with the direct charge you're using 20w to get about 19w charging.

You do get ~70% so it is closer to 10W. Still.

Can someone receiving it today please test 0-100%?

0-50% is not representative of the whole 0-100 charge as both will slow down but maybe the usb-c disproportionally.

I mean, usb-c 20W will still destroy magsafe, but not this much.
0-50% is literally the range where the 20W charger sprints like Usain Bolt.

There is no need to do test on MagSafe. Wireless Induction Charging are like that. It is not as efficient. And I am surprised this now gets media attention as if it was something new.
 
They really seem to have screwed up MagSafe.

Not in terms of the wireless charging speeds - that's to be expected.

I mean in terms of the strength of the magnets and the alignment. I was expecting it to be really strong and grippy. At the moment it seems to be kind of... pallid. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence that accessories won't fall off.

It feels like they designed the concept around stronger magnets then discovered an issue of some sort and switched to weaker ones at the last minute.

and if it is strong you will complain that it is too strong, and you want just to lay the phone and pick up easily, like in Q chargers.
 
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Magsafe is something that I don't understand at all, if it sticks to the iPhone doesn't that negate the benefits of wireless charging? If it's not place and forget, might as well use the lightning port for faster charging?

Honestly, ever since I got the X about 3 years ago I have had the same 20$ wireless charging stand and it has worked perfectly.

Magsafe is here because rumors suggest that Apple is going to remove the charging port altogether. There still needs to be a way to use the phone and charge it at the same time so this seems to be the solution if those rumors are true.
 
A bigger issue to me is how slow magsafe charges everything else besides the iPhone 12. Charging at 1 or 2W on all other devices seems to be a massive fail in regards to the usability this year for anything other than the iPhone 12.
 
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What’s the charging time in the usb-a wall brick that’s no longer in the box? That would be a fair comparison to the new MagSafe one
 
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