MagSafe iPhone Car Mounts?

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Guys I was doing some research and found this: https://www.amazon.com/enGMOLPHY-Compatible-Rotation-Powerful-Dashboard/dp/B08P4GYGXB/

It shows it is compatible with MagSafe. Anyone try this? It is interesting that it is just a holder for the official Apple MagSafe charging puck...I kind of like that idea!

My only question is that my car has regular USB ports and the Apple MagSafe charging puck is only going to work then if I get an adapter to USBC correct?

Yes, that's just a plastic holder for the Apple MagSafe puck. It may not be the cheapest or slimmest way to go, but you're guaranteed to get something that works (since you're using an actual Apple MagSafe charger). It appears to use the standard 17mm "Garmin" ball mount, so you should be able to mount it in your car in a variety of ways (in place of its included stand). It's basically the same thing as osofast240sx posted above.

You will need a 20W USB-C Power Delivery 3.0 charger to use the 15W charging. If you have anything below that, it will charge at a slower rate. https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...fe-usb-c-pd-and-why-you-need-a-20w-ac-charger has technical details.
 
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Yes, that's just a plastic holder for the Apple MagSafe puck. It may not be the cheapest or slimmest way to go, but you're guaranteed to get something that works (since you're using an actual Apple MagSafe charger). It appears to use the standard 17mm "Garmin" ball mount, so you should be able to mount it in your car in a variety of ways (in place of its included stand). It's basically the same thing as osofast240sx posted above.

You will need a 20W USB-C Power Delivery 3.0 charger to use the 15W charging. If you have anything below that, it will charge at a slower rate. https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...fe-usb-c-pd-and-why-you-need-a-20w-ac-charger has technical details.
Thanks for the help! What if I buy this Apple USBC adapter to USB: https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-to-USB-Adapter/dp/B00VU2OID2
Will it still fast charge my iPhone connected to the MagSafe charger? Sorry I’m new to all this!
 
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Thanks for the help! What if I buy this Apple USBC adapter to USB: https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-to-USB-Adapter/dp/B00VU2OID2
Will it still fast charge my iPhone connected to the MagSafe charger? Sorry I’m new to all this!
No. This adapter does the opposite, it converts USB-C to the old USB-A.

You need a PD 3.0 USB-C car adapter, that supports 2.2A @ 9V.

Something like this:

 
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I have this in my car with iPhone 12 PM and it works great. I have a apple silicon case and it sits rock solid on this

I definitely like the look of that! But I’m nervous about car mounts being attached to vents...is it close enough that the heat/ac blow right onto the phone?
 
I definitely like the look of that! But I’m nervous about car mounts being attached to vents...is it close enough that the heat/ac blow right onto the phone?

I think it’s fine but I turned this vent off. I haven’t had any air problem with this off.
 
I think it’s fine but I turned this vent off. I haven’t had any air problem with this off.
Yes good idea thank you! I’m going to get this I think! Does it charge “fast enough” with the cable it comes with? I’m ok with it not fast charging.
 
If you have a MagSafe case, yes, it rotates and stays pretty well. Otherwise it just falls off with any other thin case.
I received exact same car mount as your, it looks pretty good and it hold my iPhone 12 Mini effectively
Funny thing, its exact same width as iPhone 12 Mini
I tried with iPhone 7 case (i dont have any case yet), you re right, it barely hold and falls off quite easily
Too bad its not real Magsafe charger because i found way better to use iPhone on this squared design than official round/circle Magsafe
 
Yes good idea thank you! I’m going to get this I think! Does it charge “fast enough” with the cable it comes with? I’m ok with it not fast charging.

I haven’t charged much with it but it charge my phone, no fast charge but I’m good with that anyway.
 
Ok guys I’m responding to my post with pictures the seller sent to me of the actual product after I asked.
This is exactly what I was looking for to begin with. Looks like the cable plugs into the backside under the mounting point so it’s always hidden(perfect)(edit-yes the cable plug is in the back spot under the mounting location). The front looks to be matte black and there’s little plastic pull pieces over the center charger looks like(might be glossy behind that which is fine).
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I just ordered two of those (rectangular, not oval) off Amazon. Supposed to be here Dec 21-23.

This video from Amazon is very promising...
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I'm assuming they use a 17mm ball mount so I also ordered two of these...

Plan is to replace the MagicMountProXL magnet on two ProClips w/the ball mount.

PS: I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max w/Apple Leather MagSafe Case.
 
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I just ordered two of those (rectangular, not oval) off Amazon. Supposed to be here Dec 21-23.

This video from Amazon is very promising...
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I'm assuming they use a 17mm ball mount so I also ordered two of these...

Plan is to replace the MagicMountProXL magnet on two ProClips w/the ball mount.

PS: I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max w/Apple Leather MagSafe Case.
Amazon link please to the rectangular model?
 
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Have you actually tried one? I’ve used two with just the round ring (without the straight vertical lower magnet) - the ESR and Tozo - using a MagSafe Silicone case and my 12 Pro has never rotated one bit in many hours of driving, including some rough off-road
if it works for you then good. The videos ive seen around show over time with the round style it does shift and I don't want any shifting especially being case less. I want as many points of magnets I can get. I turn my phone a lot in the car also and don't see how the round style would be better than one with that extra point of contact. Ive been using the AliExpress ones (old style) while the seller sends me what was originally pictured and what I posted pics of a few pages back. If the magnets are anything like the original ones I received it will hold it very strong and stable. It was leaving an imprint on the phones back just like the magsafe apple charger which I didn't like. Takes some rubbing off to get off. I added leather with adhesive back to the front of the case and it holds it a little less strong and there is no more imprint. These holders are very strong from what ive received.
Side note- the videos I did see where the phone eventually started to turn was with the apple puck magsafe on another magnet mount.
 
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I just ordered two of those (rectangular, not oval) off Amazon. Supposed to be here Dec 21-23.

This video from Amazon is very promising...
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I'm assuming they use a 17mm ball mount so I also ordered two of these...

Plan is to replace the MagicMountProXL magnet on two ProClips w/the ball mount.

PS: I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max w/Apple Leather MagSafe Case.
Ive had this mount for years and the locking mechanism onto the vent and the angled bottom piece sits onto my lower vent part and holds the phone really really well. Ill probably be using this mount with the one im getting like you.
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I have this in my car with iPhone 12 PM and it works great. I have a apple silicon case and it sits rock solid on this

Do you know (or anyone know) if this model has a setting where it will stop charging the iPhone so it will not overcharge?
 
I stand corrected if this is wrong but I think it’s your phone that’s decides wether it will accept charging or not.
I thought there are like “safe charging” programs in some wireless chargers so the phones don’t overcharge? Maybe I’m wrong lol? Anyone comment on this?
 
I saw where people were using the MagSafe charger and mounting that to a phone mount.

I bought one and it didn’t hold up my 12 Pro Max without a MagSafe case. I did not try with a 12 or 12 Pro (I guess in should).

Seems that if you want a magnetic mount in the car for the 12’s you need a MagSafe case.

And I can’t add a magnet to a non MagSafe case due to wireless charging overnight.
 
Thanks for the help! What if I buy this Apple USBC adapter to USB: https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-to-USB-Adapter/dp/B00VU2OID2
Will it still fast charge my iPhone connected to the MagSafe charger? Sorry I’m new to all this!

Expanding on what 537635 said, USB-A isn't capable of PD. If you want 15W charging with the Apple MagSafe puck, you need PD. If you want PD, you need a USB-C charger. If there's any USB-A part involved, it won't work. There's no way around that. I have some Aukey chargers similar to what he recommended, and am happy with them.


A lot of third-party Qi chargers use Qualcomm's Quick Charge standard. QC 2.0 and 3.0 do work over USB-A, and can supply up to 12V and 36W. If you're using something other than the official Apple MagSafe chargers, there's a possibility it could work with (or even require) a QC charger, rather than USB-C PD.
 
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I bought one of the "rounded rectangle" charger mounts from an eBay seller in California to avoid the delay of shipping from China, though a bit of a shipping issue pretty much cancelled that out. https://www.ebay.com/itm/402570561910 is the exact auction, for reference.

The box is printed with the images that you see all over the product pages. It shows it in silver/white and black/black, just as the product pages do. The other images that you see on every product page are on the other sides of the box as well.

Once you open it, you can see that it's actually black/gray, as others have found. It also includes a USB-A to USB-C cable, telescoping suction mount, and vent clip mount. I've never used a vent clip, but this one seems decent. It has a hook on the back of the clip, and a pretty strong spring, so I would expect it to hold fairly well. It has rubber/silicone on the back side to provide some friction/protection against the dash surface too. I'm currently using the suction mount on my work desk. I'd probably sum it up as "works as described" but I'll admit that the cantilever-ish design works much better than the suction mount included with my iBolt ChargeDock. The pieces connect via a standard 17mm "Garmin" ball mount, so there are infinite ways you could mount this in your car.

As for the actual charger/mount... The magnets hold my 12 Pro in the Apple leather case quite well. It does have the orientation magnets below the ring also, though it's still fairly easy to rotate the phone. I popped it open and it uses fairly thick magnets (probably at least 5mm thick), not super-thin ones like the stickers used to MagSafe-ify existing cases. It gives a satisfying thunk when my phone snaps onto it. I held the charger by the ball mount and shook it around and my iPhone wouldn't fall off. If I swung my arm down into the palm of my other hand, the shock of the impact would cause the iPhone to come off. I wouldn't trust this as the only method of securing the phone on my motorcycle, but I'd expect it to stay put even over some pretty rough roads in my car.

I tested the charging with a RAVPower 45W USB-C PD charger, a couple different USB-A QC 3.0 chargers, and an old-fashioned 5V 2.4A USB power block. I bought one of those cross-shaped USB ammeters a couple years ago, rated up to 15V and 30W per the description. With that tester, I never saw it go above 9V or ~10W. Wireless chargers are usually around 75% efficient, which matches up with this only charging at the old 7.5W, not the new MagSafe 15W.

I noticed that the tester didn't specifically say it supported PD, so I bought a newer version. The hardware is printed with the same J7-c model number and specs, but it does have different programming. The description said it supports PD and handles up to 30V and 150W (which is actually what's printed on both of them). With this tester, the PD and QC chargers ran at 9V, but bounced between .15A and ~.33A (~1W - 3W). Even switching back to the old tester, I had trouble finding the right combination of charger and cable to give me the 10W power draw I originally saw. With the plain old USB block, I got 5W charging, as expected.

EDIT: The 1-3W fluctuation might be an issue with the charger trying to negotiate the higher charge rate with the iPhone (or something like that). I held my XS up to the charger and it went to 7.5W right away. I put it down and put the 12 on the charger, and it went back to the 1-3W bouncing. I could switch back and forth between the phones as much as I wanted and it would go to those charge rates like clockwork.

This charger does show the "ring" charging animation. It seems to show at any charger voltage above the standard 5V, regardless of the actual wattage. It showed even with the bouncing 1-3W output, but not with the 5V/5W charging. None of my old Qi chargers, even the one that I added a magnet ring to, show the animation, so I'm not entirely sure what triggers the display. I don't yet have an official Apple MagSafe charger for comparison.

In posting these pics here, I noticed that the mount's spec sheet only lists 12V input/output as hitting 15W output. All of the chargers I tested are rated for 12V and high enough amperage, but it doesn't seem to actually work at 15W (at least not through my USB meters).

Summary: This is a decent magnetic mount with wireless charging built in. I wouldn't expect it to actually do 15W charging, and you may even have trouble getting 7.5W out of it.
 

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I bought one of the "rounded rectangle" charger mounts from an eBay seller in California to avoid the delay of shipping from China, though a bit of a shipping issue pretty much cancelled that out. https://www.ebay.com/itm/402570561910 is the exact auction, for reference.

The box is printed with the images that you see all over the product pages. It shows it in silver/white and black/black, just as the product pages do. The other images that you see on every product page are on the other sides of the box as well.

Once you open it, you can see that it's actually black/gray, as others have found. It also includes a USB-A to USB-C cable, telescoping suction mount, and vent clip mount. I've never used a vent clip, but this one seems decent. It has a hook on the back of the clip, and a pretty strong spring, so I would expect it to hold fairly well. It has rubber/silicone on the back side to provide some friction/protection against the dash surface too. I'm currently using the suction mount on my work desk. I'd probably sum it up as "works as described" but I'll admit that the cantilever-ish design works much better than the suction mount included with my iBolt ChargeDock. The pieces connect via a standard 17mm "Garmin" ball mount, so there are infinite ways you could mount this in your car.

As for the actual charger/mount... The magnets hold my 12 Pro in the Apple leather case quite well. It does have the orientation magnets below the ring also, though it's still fairly easy to rotate the phone. I popped it open and it uses fairly thick magnets (probably at least 5mm thick), not super-thin ones like the stickers used to MagSafe-ify existing cases. It gives a satisfying thunk when my phone snaps onto it. I held the charger by the ball mount and shook it around and my iPhone wouldn't fall off. If I swung my arm down into the palm of my other hand, the shock of the impact would cause the iPhone to come off. I wouldn't trust this as the only method of securing the phone on my motorcycle, but I'd expect it to stay put even over some pretty rough roads in my car.

I tested the charging with a RAVPower 45W USB-C PD charger, a couple different USB-A QC 3.0 chargers, and an old-fashioned 5V 2.4A USB power block. I bought one of those cross-shaped USB ammeters a couple years ago, rated up to 15V and 30W per the description. With that tester, I never saw it go above 9V or ~10W. Wireless chargers are usually around 75% efficient, which matches up with this only charging at the old 7.5W, not the new MagSafe 15W.

I noticed that the tester didn't specifically say it supported PD, so I bought a newer version. The hardware is printed with the same J7-c model number and specs, but it does have different programming. The description said it supports PD and handles up to 30V and 150W (which is actually what's printed on both of them). With this tester, the PD and QC chargers ran at 9V, but bounced between .15A and ~.33A (~1W - 3W). Even switching back to the old tester, I had trouble finding the right combination of charger and cable to give me the 10W power draw I originally saw. With the plain old USB block, I got 5W charging, as expected.

This charger does show the "ring" charging animation. It seems to show at any charger voltage above the standard 5V, regardless of the actual wattage. It showed even with the bouncing 1-3W output, but not with the 5V/5W charging. None of my old Qi chargers, even the one that I added a magnet ring to, show the animation, so I'm not entirely sure what triggers the display. I don't yet have an official Apple MagSafe charger for comparison.

In posting these pics here, I noticed that the mount's spec sheet only lists 12V input/output as hitting 15W output. All of the chargers I tested are rated for 12V and high enough amperage, but it doesn't seem to actually work at 15W (at least not through my USB meters).

Summary: This is a decent magnetic mount with wireless charging built in. I wouldn't expect it to actually do 15W charging, and you may even have trouble getting 7.5W out of it.
Interesting findings. Kindof confirms what I suspected:
  • It seems the magsafe animation simply is confirming the presence of a correctly spoofed NFC chip.
  • The higher charging wattages may require an additional "handshake" beyond the mere presence of the nfc chip.
Interestingly, the input wattages shown don't correspond with what I'd expect to see for a magsafe compatible product. I'd expect to see a 9v/2.2a or 9v/3a rail... which seem to be missing from this product. I guess in theory we still don't know exactly WHAT is required for a "knockoff" brand to actually achieve full speed charging.
 
I saw where people were using the MagSafe charger and mounting that to a phone mount.

I bought one and it didn’t hold up my 12 Pro Max without a MagSafe case. I did not try with a 12 or 12 Pro (I guess in should).

Seems that if you want a magnetic mount in the car for the 12’s you need a MagSafe case.

And I can’t add a magnet to a non MagSafe case due to wireless charging overnight.
The round apple puck was never designed for a car charger. There are mounts that hold a 12 max fine without a case in this thread.
 
Interesting findings. Kindof confirms what I suspected:
  • It seems the magsafe animation simply is confirming the presence of a correctly spoofed NFC chip.
  • The higher charging wattages may require an additional "handshake" beyond the mere presence of the nfc chip.
Interestingly, the input wattages shown don't correspond with what I'd expect to see for a magsafe compatible product. I'd expect to see a 9v/2.2a or 9v/3a rail... which seem to be missing from this product. I guess in theory we still don't know exactly WHAT is required for a "knockoff" brand to actually achieve full speed charging.

The animation isn't purely hardware or charge wattage though. It shows up when it's running at 9V but only getting 3W, but not when it's running at 5V and getting 5W. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The box does say 9V/2.2A (covered up by the sticker), though the spec sheet inside doesn't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I agree that there doesn't seem to be good technical detail on what it takes to get 15W charging. At this point, we all seem to just be guessing based on what our testing has shown. As most of us aren't engineers with good tools, and we're working with cheap Chinese clone hardware, it's hard to say where the actual problem is. I expect more details will trickle out over time and the knockoffs will get better, but for now, I'd advise to keep your expectations low on these.
 
The animation isn't purely hardware or charge wattage though. It shows up when it's running at 9V but only getting 3W, but not when it's running at 5V and getting 5W. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The box does say 9V/2.2A (covered up by the sticker), though the spec sheet inside doesn't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I agree that there doesn't seem to be good technical detail on what it takes to get 15W charging. At this point, we all seem to just be guessing based on what our testing has shown. As most of us aren't engineers with good tools, and we're working with cheap Chinese clone hardware, it's hard to say where the actual problem is. I expect more details will trickle out over time and the knockoffs will get better, but for now, I'd advise to keep your expectations low on these.
My initial "guess" was that Apple simply await the NFC to be recognized before enabling a standards-based 15w QI charging profile. But there is probably more at play.
 
The animation isn't purely hardware or charge wattage though. It shows up when it's running at 9V but only getting 3W, but not when it's running at 5V and getting 5W. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The box does say 9V/2.2A (covered up by the sticker), though the spec sheet inside doesn't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I agree that there doesn't seem to be good technical detail on what it takes to get 15W charging. At this point, we all seem to just be guessing based on what our testing has shown. As most of us aren't engineers with good tools, and we're working with cheap Chinese clone hardware, it's hard to say where the actual problem is. I expect more details will trickle out over time and the knockoffs will get better, but for now, I'd advise to keep your expectations low on these.
I bought the same one. It's going back today because of the lousy charging.
And you're right. I don't know why anyone is expecting reliable performance or accurate specs from any company willing to use knockoff NFC tech.
 
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