MagSafe iPhone Car Mounts?

[Davidalan]

Looks like a crank
those magnets won’t line up but might work.

So far, I've tried with an Apple 60W USB-C charger and an Anker USB-C charger, neither produces the animation. Both naked and with an official Apple leather MagSafe case. I did a quick charging test using an app while connected to the Apple charger and it came up with a whopping 2.54W. Maybe it's because it was too close to an 80% charge already, so it slowed down? I'll test again tomorrow using more chargers.

Edit: Just tried with an Apple USB-C 20W charger too, in case the laptop USB-C charger was overkill or missing some profile... 2.78W. It can't possibly be that bad, can it? Is there a consensus best charger-test app and protocol? I'm using "Charger Master"

Edit2: Tried another testing app. and got 3.7W. 1% in 179 seconds on my 12 pro max. If really is this bad, I'll have to send it back despite the awesome magnet.

The issue is the charger, despite voltage must support PD V3.0 to achieve quick 15w wireless charging.
“The large surface area coupled with Apple's own proprietary design allows for up to 15W of delivered power to a device when charging when using the MagSafe charger vs only 7.5W on Qi chargers. The ability to charge at twice the speed of Qi is a major benefit to using MagSafe, but it does come with some caveats.
Buckle up. This is going to get a little more technical than we normally get. If this stops you from reading further, here's the takeaway: if you don't want to buy Apple's USB-C AC adapter, any USB-PD 3.0 one with equivalent specs will do to get that faster charging speed, and a lesser one, won't.”

The real story behind MagSafe, USB-C PD, and why you need a 20W AC charger | AppleInsider

If you want to charge your iPhone 12 using MagSafe, Apple recommends using certain 20W AC adapters — and they don't need to come from Apple, despite what you may have heard. We explain what the requirements are, and why an older 18W adapter just won't cut it.

appleinsider.com

MagSafe charger requirements

 

[x-evil-x]

I really don’t care about the fast charging. I just want the animation. My phone is never running low on battery and I don’t personally like fast charging unless I really have to. For that I’ll fast charge with a cable for 20 minutes. Fast charging at every second of every time you want to charge your phone won’t be the best for your battery over two years or however long you own your phone.
my xs max I traded in after two years had a 94% battery health. Same kind of charging methods I use now. Rarely fast charge unless I need to.

 

[eekcat]

The issue is the charger, despite voltage must support PD V3.0 to achieve quick 15w wireless charging.
“The large surface area coupled with Apple's own proprietary design allows for up to 15W of delivered power to a device when charging when using the MagSafe charger vs only 7.5W on Qi chargers. The ability to charge at twice the speed of Qi is a major benefit to using MagSafe, but it does come with some caveats.
Buckle up. This is going to get a little more technical than we normally get. If this stops you from reading further, here's the takeaway: if you don't want to buy Apple's USB-C AC adapter, any USB-PD 3.0 one with equivalent specs will do to get that faster charging speed, and a lesser one, won't.”

The real story behind MagSafe, USB-C PD, and why you need a 20W AC charger | AppleInsider

If you want to charge your iPhone 12 using MagSafe, Apple recommends using certain 20W AC adapters — and they don't need to come from Apple, despite what you may have heard. We explain what the requirements are, and why an older 18W adapter just won't cut it.

appleinsider.com

MagSafe charger requirements

But in my case, for one of my tests, I did use an Apple USB-C 20W charger. I'm going to try two more things -- running the battery lower before starting a test and doing the same with my Apple MagSafe Charger w/ the USB-20W charger, which should produce "optimal" results. Darn this excellent 12 Pro Max battery life though... with my usage, it rarely goes below 70% in a day.

Like x-evil-x, I don't really care if it truly fast charges. (since I cycle through a new iPhone every year though, I don't have any interest in preserving its battery health)

 

[bubulol]

The black model, is it exactly the same model as i ve linked in video?
Where is charging blue LED, next to usb-c port right?
Did you ever try on your car with a cig lighter with LED display?
I got a Baseus 24w with LED display, it charges at 13/14w
I can test it with my 25w Samsung brick charger or Anker Nano 18w to see if its quick charge or not

 

[eekcat]

The black model, is it exactly the same model as i ve linked in video?
Where is charging blue LED, next to usb-c port right?
Did you ever try on your car with a cig lighter with LED display?
I got a Baseus 24w with LED display, it charges at 13/14w
I can test it with my 25w Samsung brick charger or Anker Nano 18w to see if its quick charge or not

I ordered from the Amazon link you provided. There is a tiny blue led next to the USB-C port. The included cable appears to be USB-A to USB-C though. I don't have access to a cig lighter with an LED display. In the end, if this can simply maintain a charge while I'm driving and using GPS and Music, it'll work fine for me.

 

[bubulol]

Ok it appears to be same model
Buy usb-c to usb-c cable (it will give you the Magsafe animation) and cig lighter with PD (usb-c or usb-a)
You will be able to get around 15w
Otherwise my iPhone 12 mini never gets discharged while using GPS (waze) and Music/Podcast (with another and basic cig lighter that doesnt have quick charge)

 

[eekcat]

Ok it appears to be same model
Buy usb-c to usb-c cable (it will give you the Magsafe animation) and cig lighter with PD (usb-c or usb-a)
You will be able to get around 15w
Otherwise my iPhone 12 mini never gets discharged while using GPS (waze) and Music/Podcast (with another and basic cig lighter that doesnt have quick charge)

Tried a few more combos:

Apple 20W USB-C, Apple USB-C to lightning cable: 17.02W
Apple 20W USB-C, Apple USB-C to USB-C Cable, iButLiv mount, 58%>61%: 3.69W
Apple 20W USB-C, Apple MagSafe Charger, 61%>64%: 6.69W
Apple 20W USB-C, Apple Magsage Charger (NO case, naked): 16.59W
Apple 20W USB-C, Apple USB-C to USB-C Cable, iButLiv mount (NO case, naked): 3.33W

So I'm concluding that (a) the Apple MagSafe case was limiting things and (b) even without the case holding things back, the iButLiv can't charge at a decent rate. I think I'm going to see if I can exchange it, as my phone and charger aren't the problem.

 

[bubulol]

Do Apple use power delivery technology in their charger?
I dont know why it charges at 15w when i am using PD cig lighter

 

[lordhamster]

The issue is the charger, despite voltage must support PD V3.0 to achieve quick 15w wireless charging.
“The large surface area coupled with Apple's own proprietary design allows for up to 15W of delivered power to a device when charging when using the MagSafe charger vs only 7.5W on Qi chargers. The ability to charge at twice the speed of Qi is a major benefit to using MagSafe, but it does come with some caveats.
Buckle up. This is going to get a little more technical than we normally get. If this stops you from reading further, here's the takeaway: if you don't want to buy Apple's USB-C AC adapter, any USB-PD 3.0 one with equivalent specs will do to get that faster charging speed, and a lesser one, won't.”

The real story behind MagSafe, USB-C PD, and why you need a 20W AC charger | AppleInsider

If you want to charge your iPhone 12 using MagSafe, Apple recommends using certain 20W AC adapters — and they don't need to come from Apple, despite what you may have heard. We explain what the requirements are, and why an older 18W adapter just won't cut it.

appleinsider.com

MagSafe charger requirements

Thanks for posting this. It is a great explanation and should dispel some of the conspiracy theories circulating the internet about magsafe.

I really don’t care about the fast charging. I just want the animation. My phone is never running low on battery and I don’t personally like fast charging unless I really have to. For that I’ll fast charge with a cable for 20 minutes. Fast charging at every second of every time you want to charge your phone won’t be the best for your battery over two years or however long you own your phone.
my xs max I traded in after two years had a 94% battery health. Same kind of charging methods I use now. Rarely fast charge unless I need to.

Why do you care about the animation? I'm on iOS 14.5 beta and as a side-effect of the beta none of my chargers (including OEM Apple) do the animation anymore...known bug in the beta. I honesty can't say that it matters on iota to me. I still get an audio "ding" as well as an indication in the battery indicator telling me it is charging.

Do Apple use power delivery technology in their charger?
I dont know why it charges at 15w when i am using PD cig lighter

Read the Apple insider post @Davidalan posted like 3 posts upthread from yours.

 

[Davidalan]

Do Apple use power delivery technology in their charger?
I dont know why it charges at 15w when i am using PD cig lighter

You need to use a charger that supports PD V3.0 and at least 20w

 

[bubulol]

Thanks, did anyone have experienced to stick Magsafe holder on existent magnetic mount?
I heard about interference can weaken Magnet strength or even worse, having charging issues?

 

[eekcat]

Thanks, did anyone have experienced to stick Magsafe holder on existent magnetic mount?
I heard about interference can weaken Magnet strength or even worse, having charging issues?

Not sure if this is what you mean, but I tried sticking my Apple MagSafe charger to the metal plate that came with my xvida Qi magnetic mount (unplugged the xvida charger of course, and it worked fine. That MagSafe magnet wasn’t terribly strong though.

 

[bubulol]

Ah thanks, so it weakens the Magsafe magnets
Not so good idea then

 

[eekcat]

Ah thanks, so it weakens the Magsafe magnets
Not so good idea then

I wouldn't say that - I just think the MagSafe charger magnets aren't really sufficient to hold the phone in the car. (speed bumps, etc.)

 

[eekcat]

Ok, my final verdict after getting a replacement iButliv charger from Amazon: 4.61W (using an Apple USB-C 20W charger and Apple USB-c cable). I now need to decide if I still want to keep it for its awesome magnet...

 

[bubulol]

I got similar result with a Samsung USB-C 25w, surprisingly, i didnt get the animation (will test with my Anker Nano tomorrow, i have plenty of brick chargers lol)
The good thing about slow charging -> less harmful for your battery (less heat than quick charge)
The strength of its magnets is indeed awesome, i took so many potholes and bumps, it never fell off
I ordered this, better vent mount (locked behind the vent air blades through the hook) but less powerful magnet
I did same video test as i ve uploaded, it fell off after few seconds (10?), i didnt feel confident while using this holder
I essential drove in the city at low speed
More wobbly on the support, more stable on the mount

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[Synomenon]

All of the 3rd party "Magsafe" mounts I've tried so far top out at ~6W when I've tried charging my phone from at least 50% remaining battery life. I'll be trying an official Apple Magsafe charger in the car soon.

I use this car charger:
www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F7U076/

 

[x-evil-x]

Thanks for posting this. It is a great explanation and should dispel some of the conspiracy theories circulating the internet about magsafe.



Why do you care about the animation? I'm on iOS 14.5 beta and as a side-effect of the beta none of my chargers (including OEM Apple) do the animation anymore...known bug in the beta. I honesty can't say that it matters on iota to me. I still get an audio "ding" as well as an indication in the battery indicator telling me it is charging.



Read the Apple insider post @Davidalan posted like 3 posts upthread from yours.

I like seeing the animation is all. Nothing besides that. It’s nicer than the normal qi charging lighting animation. All I really care about. I don’t really even want faster charging.

 

[The Game 161]

Mine has arrived from Amazon


HATALKIN Magnetic Car Vent Mount Wireless Charger

 

[djmanosv]

Mine has arrived from Amazon


HATALKIN Magnetic Car Vent Mount Wireless Charger

link ? where does it ship from ?

 

[M5RahuL]

link ? where does it ship from ?

I see it at Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/Hatalkin-Magnetic-Wireless-Mag-Safe-Charging/dp/B08CZPVLNL?th=1

 

[iAdamator]

Does anyone know of a MagSafe puck that is the exact same dimensions as the official Apple one? I am thinking about getting the ProClip Mag sage holder but I need a puck to stick in it and rather not buy the Apple one simply because it’s the exact size needed if I can find a cheaper alternative.

 

[Hansana]

Just got this from Amazon. So worth for $12 AUD. Minimal profile. Very strong magnets.

 

[Hansana]

 

[The Game 161]

I see it at Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/Hatalkin-Magnetic-Wireless-Mag-Safe-Charging/dp/B08CZPVLNL?th=1

sadly it's not useable for me. just keeps falling off

dunno if the vents in my merc are different or what