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I have ordered this Magsafe car mount

Its most likely an unofficial Magsafe car mount but i am looking forward to test it

It’s what Belkin should have done and I hope a reputable brand makes one. I don’t trust no-name stuff for things involving charging (too risky)
 
iPhone 12 Pro, with the Apple leather MagSafe case. Using it on ProClip’s dash mount in a 2018 Audi A5 and the Scosche Magic Mount Pro XL. No plate because Qi charging. Sticks alright in one specific position but I have concerns about it staying there.

I wish Moment would release their mount before March of next year, otherwise I’m going to devise my own (similar) solution. Oddly enough, the iPhone 12 Pro seems to stick to the plate fine on its own, but I’m not going caseless.
I have the Apple magsafe silicon case and an air vent Scosche mount. It grips but as i drive, it slides off. Was considering maybe putting a plate in the bottom half of the case.. It will be a pain in the butt because I think my MagSafe charger might stick to the plate, but I need a solution for when im in the car...

or I just give in and buy the Belkin one ($40 for a car mount with not charging!!!)
 
I have this on order:

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USB-C power input and it has that vertical magnet beneath the circular array which should keep the phone held more securely and prevent it from just spinning around on the mount.
 
I’ve ordered this one. Better than Belkin which doesn’t even charge!?

 
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I’ve ordered this one. Better than Belkin which doesn’t even charge!?

Nice. They have two models. The rectangle model I ordered and the oval model you ordered. They told me the only difference between the two is the shape. Hopefully the ball socket on the back will work with the standard 17mm mounting ball used in lots of car / phone / audio mounts.
 
Its same model as i ve ordered on Aliexpress
Its not official Magsafe product
I think we understood that it's not an official Magsafe product. Only Belkin I think makes one that's official and it's not widely available yet.

Do you have a link to the one you got on Aliexpress?
 
ordered this black one from AliExpress just not.
Sure its not "magsafe official" but really all that is different is a brand name. Highly doubt most of these parts come from different places.
There was one someone posted for 45$ from its own site that looks like the one I ordered just rebranded and made a site for it to sell it for 3x's the amount.
Anyway, hopefully it works good. Looks about as perfect as id want one. Black, rubberized attachment and rectangle shape for more surface area to hold it. Basically a Belkin in black and charges.
I have a few 90 degree usb c adapters ill try on it so the cable goes straight back instead of down.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001725287503.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1b4e4c4dzh8kuy
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I’m using my existing car mount and just put a metal plate on the back of the MagSafe charger. It sticks very well. Ran errands this morning, and my 12 PM, case-less, didn’t fall off once. Hit a few minor potholes, railroad tracks and the phone stayed secure. I purchased the mount on Amazon and it works perfectly even though my dah is textured.

Magnetic Phone Car Mount - FITFORT Universal Dashboard Car Phone Holder with Strong Suction Cup and Comes with Air Vent Holder.​

 

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Feels like a lot of people don’t understand the downsides of not waiting for official MagSafe. These unofficial MagSafe chargers for the car will be slow and the phone won’t recognize them as anything but Qi. That might be a bit inconvenient if you need to top off between destinations as normal Qi is almost as slow as you can go for charging.

I suggest sticking to MagSafe cases for the strongest connection and secure fits, and MagSafe chargers for faster speeds than Qi.

Qi charging in the car is almost worthless to me.
 
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Feels like a lot of people don’t understand the downsides of not waiting for official MagSafe. These unofficial MagSafe chargers for the car will be slow and the phone won’t recognize them as anything but Qi. That might be a bit inconvenient if you need to top off between destinations as normal Qi is almost as slow as you can go for charging.

I suggest sticking to MagSafe cases for the strongest connection and secure fits, and MagSafe chargers for faster speeds than Qi.

I'm curious where you obtained the bolded information. Link please?

As to the other points...

#1 - normal 7.5W Qi charging works fine, and is 50% faster than wired Lightning charging with the 5W brick so many people lost their crap over when Apple ceased including them.

#2 - Please link to these official" MagSafe charging car phone mounts people should be using. Oh, wait, there aren't any last I saw. Hmm... non-existing charging solutions are even more inconvenient if you need to top off between destinations.
 
Does anyone happen to know the dimensions of the circular magnets within the phone? My phone sticks to my existing magnetic car mount but I have to get it positioned just right. If I can get a magnetic mount that covers the full size of the internal magnets then I have no doubt it will hold the phone securely. I wonder if anyone has a broke. It would be awesome if I could find some selling a broken MagSafe charger, since I don’t care about wireless charging I’d just cut the cord and mount it to my existent garage mount.
 
I'm curious where you obtained the bolded information. Link please?

As to the other points...

#1 - normal 7.5W Qi charging works fine, and is 50% faster than wired Lightning charging with the 5W brick so many people lost their crap over when Apple ceased including them.

#2 - Please link to these official" MagSafe charging car phone mounts people should be using. Oh, wait, there aren't any last I saw. Hmm... non-existing charging solutions are even more inconvenient if you need to top off between destinations.
MagSafe official accessories have to have an NFC chip that Apple certifies so iPhone recognizes the accessory and will use it at high speed with MagSafe - it’s shown and described in the keynote and the iPhone web page. If the iPhone doesn’t recognize the MagSafe charger capable of up to 15W, it will only draw power as Qi instead at maximum 7.5W for safety reasons (15W wireless charging was basically unheard of until recently because high wireless wattage emits lots of heat, so the efficient alignment is a must to concentrate the power transfer). The NFC chip is what makes iPhone go from sticking to any old magnet and Qi charger made by any company, to instead showing the animated MagSafe charging screen and pulling 15W. Same NFC chip is in the cases too - it’s how iPhone knows it has a brown case attaching and can show the matching color when you put it on the phone.

iPhone will not pull high wattage from just “MagSafe compatible” wireless chargers with magnets - it must recognize the MagSafe chip. iPhone will only pull its maximum Qi power draw of 7.5W if it is just sticking to a charger without true MagSafe.

So yes, these unofficial chargers that are just Qi with a magnet will be slower than using actual MagSafe if that interests you.

Also not that Qi 7.5W does not actually charge at 50% faster than a 5W charger. Wireless charging is inefficient and gets worse with a case on. MagSafe has this issue too, but far less so at double the peak transfer. It may matter to anyone who is obviously here looking for MagSafe stuff.

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MagSafe official accessories have to have an NFC chip that Apple certifies so iPhone recognizes the accessory and will use it at high speed with MagSafe

Then we'll look forward to the reports from the folks buying the offbrand chargers to find out if they have the magic chip or not.

15W wireless charging was basically unheard of until now because high wireless wattage emits lots of heat, so the efficient alignment is a must to concentrate the power transfer)

Except Samsung's been doing it for a while now. Nice of Apple to catch up in a way that doesn't involve a fan, but it's far from "unheard of".

Also not that Qi 7.5W does not actually charge at 50% faster than a 5W charger.
Except it does when you actually use and don't presuppose how it works. You feed the Qi pad with a 5V 2.4A source (12W) due to the inefficiencies mentioned, just as you feed the Magsafe from a 20W source to achieve the 15W rate at the phone.

I've been using this for three years now so I'm not just talkiing from stuff I've read about somewhere. Here's a link for you though:

See https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/14/ios-11-2-faster-wireless-charging-iphone-x/
 
Apple will never release a magnetic wireless charger for a car so you’ll be waiting around for a long time. I don’t really care if its slow charging. I honestly don’t want to fast charge my phone every chance I get as it isn’t great for your battery long term. I just want something that holds the phone securely without a case. I mostly use wired in a car anyway for my stereo.
 
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Feels like a lot of people don’t understand the downsides of not waiting for official MagSafe. These unofficial MagSafe chargers for the car will be slow and the phone won’t recognize them as anything but Qi. That might be a bit inconvenient if you need to top off between destinations as normal Qi is almost as slow as you can go for charging.

I suggest sticking to MagSafe cases for the strongest connection and secure fits, and MagSafe chargers for faster speeds than Qi.

Qi charging in the car is almost worthless to me.
I always plug in when I need to charge quickly. Qi charging is fine, but it takes way too long to get a decent charge. Depending on the charger in the vehicle, it can be really bad too. I had a 2017 Toyota Tacoma with a built in wireless charging pad that was basically another heater. It made the iPhone very warm and charged extremely slowly. In my current vehicle that has wired CarPlay, it charges the iPhone quickly, so I really don't even want a wireless charger in the vehicle. I agree that Qi charging in a vehicle is pretty pointless unless you're on a long trip, then maybe it is worthwhile.
 
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Apple will never release a magnetic wireless charger for a car so you’ll be waiting around for a long time. I don’t really care if its slow charging. I honestly don’t want to fast change my phone every chance I get as it isn’t great for your battery long term. I just want something that holds the phone securely without a case. I mostly use wired in a car anyway for my stereo.
Not talking about Apple making one themselves. But MagSafe itself is a specific technology program similar to the Made for i (MFi) certification you look for on lightning cables to avoid the “accessory not supported” error. It can be used by third parties if approved by Apple - so official MagSafe chargers and cases from third parties are coming (Belkin is working on some now) and will be able to match Apple’s 15W charging. The ones posted above on this page that just say “MagSafe compatible” are just unbranded Qi chargers at 7.5W or slower with a magnet to stick the phone to it. But without the certified NFC chip for actual MagSafe certification, iPhone won’t get the benefits of faster charging. So with a little patience, we have already been seeing many new MagSafe accessories announced by third parties.
 
I Just ordered this one (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001725287503.html), thanks to everyone who linked to the AliExpress ones, very helpful. The page says delivery is a month out, but I'll report back when it arrives.

Personally, I don't care at all about wireless charging, and I could only see using it on long road trips, for simple convenience. 99% of the time I won't have the charger plugged in because I don't want cables cluttering up my car, and in the rare instance where I did actually *need* a charge, I'd just plug in directly via lightning since it will be much faster—the power source we use, whatever it is, it will always charge faster via lightning than MagSafe or Qi Because of the inefficiencies of wireless charging.

I just wanted a good vent mount that would hold the phone securely enough, and be easy to add, position, and remove with one hand. This one has the bonus of being discreetly black without obnoxious branding. I don't use a case with my phone, so all the case-based magnetic mount systems are a no-go.

Fingers crossed it mounts solidly to the vent and hold the phone securely.
 
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I have this on order:

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USB-C power input and it has that vertical magnet beneath the circular array which should keep the phone held more securely and prevent it from just spinning around on the mount.
I like this one but is there any way to make it a dash mount instead of a vent mount?
 
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Let me know if you find something. My old Scosche magnet holder requires a plate on the back of the phone, which I believe will affect the Magsafe charger I have at home. And it's not strong or large enough to support the weight of the phone with just the Magsafe magnets on the phone and silicon case.

My car requires a wired connection for CarPlay to work, so I am looking for just a phone mount (don't need charging). Having to pay $40 for the Belkin is killing me! I tried several of those clamp style ones but don't like them because they're hard to put the phone in, and come off the air vent every time I remove the phone. The gravity ones that I've seen seem flimsy like the phone will fall off.

Has anyone found a solution?
My metal plate is sitting in the case and the phone fits in fine. This was the setup with my 12 Pro. I returned it and got a 12 Pro Max same setup and works great. I never affix my metal plates I always let the case secure them.
 

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So my MagSafe with my existing dashboard car mount is a success. Set up and pictures below.
  1. iPhone Mini
  2. Apple Plum Silicon Case
  3. MagSafe charger from Apple
  4. Aukey USB C Car charger from Amazon
  5. Bestrix magnetic car phone mount from amazon
I thought I was going to need a metal plate between the MagSafe and the Bestrix car mount, and the MagSafe worked amazing without the metal plate. From there I put my iPhone on the mount and it seems like a really solid and stable connection between all of the products.

I’ll keep testing it during the week to see if the magnets are strong enough and I’ll also see if the phone charges at an acceptable rate. I’m concerned I may need a different type of charger because I have a mini and I’m using the MagSafe.
 

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