Major Bugs Still in iOS 7 (no "It's a Beta" Comments)

[PNutts]

It is beta thing really not vaild and how are you let developer testing software if it so unstable?

You are entitled to your opinion as am I, but please stop trying to convince people that a beta should be as stable as a released version. You can't compare Apple's beta to any other company's because you don't know Apple's intent. It's not a public beta for a reason. Apple may know and not be concerned if you can't, say, sync music on your development device because you are supposed to be testing your iOS apps against APIs. That's all. If you aren't going to follow Apple's recommendation on how to use a beta then you are on your own and your results will be disappointing.

In one way you are correct. We should stop saying, "it's a beta". We should be saying, "It's a private developer beta for your development device and how does <feature that doesn't work> affect the development of your app?"

 

[VolceOntra]

It is Beta thing really getting old. Dude... I am using developer preview of Windows 8.1... and it is no way crashy like iOS 7 on iPad. By the way, I used all beta version of Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, those are no way close this level. I still remember that I used Windows Vista Beta 3 and Windows 7 Beta 1 and Beta 2 as full time daily OS before.

It is beta thing really not vaild and how are you let developer testing software if it so unstable?

Good for Windows 8.1 and Microsoft, that doesn't mean this software isn't a beta and might have major bugs.

Everyone needs to wait until it's GM, at least, to start bitching.

 

[LostSoul80]

Simply because there are plenty of bugs for YOU does not mean that others are not experiencing 'almost bug free' iOS7.

This doesn't make any sense.
If a user finds a bug in the OS, other users in a similar context will likely experience that same bug, provided the OS version is the same.
If a user experiences bugs, those should be reported to Apple, because there is no reason why any issues would show up only to some users and not to everybody else in the same environment.
If people find bugs in iOS 7, that means iOS 7 has bugs. Is it really hard of a connection to understand?

 

[djstarion]

The thing that kind of bugs me about the iPad betas are that they were released aligned with the iPhone/iPod betas, even going right to beta 2. You would think that if the iPad betas needed more work they would break it off into it's own schedule and release a B7 for iPad between now and the iPad announcement.

Personally when I tried B6 on a mini, the OS itself worked great, and the main problems I was having were 3rd party app related, but I also know that older iPads might have more issues and that's understandable.

 

[LostSoul80]

Good for Windows 8.1 and Microsoft, that doesn't mean this software isn't a beta and might have major bugs.

Everyone needs to wait until it's GM, at least, to start bitching.

I'm sorry, why? Nothing says that Beta software has to have bugs or has to crash. Mature (there have been numerous iterations now) Beta software nearing release is supposed to be almost bugs free, so the concern of many users is legitimate.

 

[dcp10]

This conversation reminds me of a saying my wife is fond of. "Never try to teach a pig to dance. It only annoys the pig and frustrates you."

We can go round and round on this, but the simple fact it that Apple has a private beta program for the overall development of iOS and releases developer previews so devs can do testing. These previews are not the yardstick with which Apple measures the readiness of the OS with.

 

[Tyler23]

This conversation reminds me of a saying my wife is fond of. "Never try to teach a pig to dance. It only annoys the pig and frustrates you."

We can go round and round on this, but the simple fact it that Apple has a private beta program for the overall development of iOS and releases developer previews so devs can do testing. These previews are not the yardstick with which Apple measures the readiness of the OS with.

Agreed.

The last real update was a month ago, and even then the beta pushed to developers would be far behind what Apple is testing internally.

Everyone seems to thinks that these betas are for developers to test bugs, but they're not. They're main purpose is to allow developers time to update their apps to the new APIs. If anyone thinks Apple doesn't do internal bug testing, they're crazy. What we currently have on our phones is probably a nearly one and a half to two month old build. The GM is ready, and I have great confidence that it is going to be a very stable release.

 

[zamudiovsky]

I've never had any major issues with iOS 7 betas, on Beta 1 and 2 I had the occasional app crashing and restarts, since beta 3 i haven't had any restart or that many apps crashing. On beta 6 I haven't had any issues at all, no apps crashing, no restarts, just the music controllers on the lock screen and the control center are not working but I know its a beta and I filed my report to Apple.

I could use iOS7 Beta 6 as my regular iOS no problem, but I can't wait for GM!

 

[MRSucks]

Major bugs in the op. (No, someone has to be that "dude")

 

[SakuraSuki]

Good for Windows 8.1 and Microsoft, that doesn't mean this software isn't a beta and might have major bugs.

Everyone needs to wait until it's GM, at least, to start bitching.

The point i am trying to make is that: "it is beta, it must be unstable." "it is a beta, how dare you point out bug" etc. is stupid. Being beta does not have to be unstable and it does not mean it will contain major bugs.

I am sure GM will short things out, but no way it means GM will have NO bugs at all. I still remember how bad iOS 6 was at GM and how bad Lion was before.

 

[Tyler23]

The point i am trying to make is that: "it is beta, it must be unstable." "it is a beta, how dare you point out bug" etc. is stupid. Being beta does not have to be unstable and it does not mean it will contain major bugs.

I am sure GM will short things out, but no way it means GM will have NO bugs at all. I still remember how bad iOS 6 was at GM and how bad Lion was before.

I'll quote myself here.

"Everyone seems to thinks that these betas are for developers to test bugs, but they're not. They're main purpose is to allow developers time to update their apps to the new APIs. If anyone thinks Apple doesn't do internal bug testing, they're crazy. What we currently have on our phones is probably a nearly one and a half to two month old build. The GM is ready, and I have great confidence that it is going to be a very stable release."

 

[SakuraSuki]

I'll quote myself here.

"Everyone seems to thinks that these betas are for developers to test bugs, but they're not. They're main purpose is to allow developers time to update their apps to the new APIs. If anyone thinks Apple doesn't do internal bug testing, they're crazy. What we currently have on our phones is probably a nearly one and a half to two month old build. The GM is ready, and I have great confidence that it is going to be a very stable release."

And i repeat again: BETA DOES NOT HAVE TO BE UNSTABLE AND BUG FEAST.

 

[Tyler23]

And i repeat again: BETA DOES NOT HAVE TO BE UNSTABLE AND BUG FEAST.

But it can be. And again, there is a difference between developer beta and internal beta. The developer beta needs only to run to the point where a developer can test their apps. Every company is different, as is every beta process. Just because a beta does not have to be unstable and a bug fest, doesn't mean it can't be, which you seem to think.

And, again, Apple has had 2 months of internal testing since the beta we currently have was finalized for release, and even at that point it was likely behind what they were internally testing. That's 2 MONTHS of bug fixing Apple has been doing behind the scenes. These betas are not meant to be used by every day users on every day devices. If someone can't handle that, they should not be using the beta.

 

[VolceOntra]

The point i am trying to make is that: "it is beta, it must be unstable." "it is a beta, how dare you point out bug" etc. is stupid. Being beta does not have to be unstable and it does not mean it will contain major bugs.

I am sure GM will short things out, but no way it means GM will have NO bugs at all. I still remember how bad iOS 6 was at GM and how bad Lion was before.

Um..you are right...it doesn't have to be...but if it is, it should come as a surprise.

 

[GreyOS]

Because I'm bored, here are some minor bugs I'd be surprised are still in final. they're 100% reproducible for me so have fun!

1. App Store > Updates > Purchased > Click on app to view details > slide from edge of screen as if to go back but don't let go, slide back to left edge so you stay on app detail page, now let go. Then repeat the slide to go back, notice the [All | Not on This iPhone] slides across. If you stay on the app detail page it moves across. If you go back to list of apps, that banner is missing.

2. Weather > have an active hot spot connection or call going > view city weather details > bottom of screen is cut off

3. Paging in Weather > if you tap to left or right of pager, you can move the pager quicker than the actual pages can keep up. So you reach end of pager without reaching the end of your cities.

4. Paging on home screen > tapping right of pager only works after the slide animation has finished (tapping on left works perfectly)

5. Turn wifi and bluetooth off so when you turn a hotspot if brings up a message > click USB Only > wait for hotspot banner to appear at top > quickly turn off hotspot and back on > the popup opens, THEN the banner disappears, and the screen shifts up leaving an ungrayed out area at the bottom.

6. Close all apps > open any 3, returning to home screen each time you open one > on homescreen, double tap home button to go into multitasking, don't scroll > close the first two at the same time > the 3rd remaining app has no window preview.

 

[MetalMatt24]

my iphone 5 works like it just came out of the box
running ios7 beta 6

 

[CB1234]

This doesn't make any sense.
If a user finds a bug in the OS, other users in a similar context will likely experience that same bug, provided the OS version is the same.
If a user experiences bugs, those should be reported to Apple, because there is no reason why any issues would show up only to some users and not to everybody else in the same environment.
If people find bugs in iOS 7, that means iOS 7 has bugs. Is it really hard of a connection to understand?

If user experiences a bug, then he should report to Apple - griping on here ain't going to help…

The point is that just because OP found bugs, doesn't mean everyone using BETA found the same bugs. From the posts on here, it is pretty evident that the beta is behaving differently for different people on different handsets. It is not consistent, its an established fact, if we believe all the posts. And hopefully GM should iron it all out for most of the people...

The point is, as much people come here to gripe about iOS7 beta, its completely pointless…. unless you want to make this into a troll of griping whinging posts.

A) This is a beta and it will have bugs - it's not rocket science.
B) And just because OP finds there are major bugs and crashy, doesn't mean everyone has the same problem.

This forum is for people to post what problems they perceive they are facing, as much as others who are not facing any problems. That way we can hear both sides of stories. It's called democracy !!!

And that was the point of my post..

Is it really hard to understand this???

 

[ajiuo]

Its still a beta and you have no clue what changes have been made between beta 6 and GM.. So dont criticize what you dont know.

 

[LostSoul80]

If user experiences a bug, then he should report to Apple - griping on here ain't going to help…

This is a forum. People discuss on forums. People discuss iOS 7 beta bugs in the iOS 7 section of the forum.

The point is that just because OP found bugs, doesn't mean everyone using BETA found the same bugs.

If the bug is in the operating system, it is likely that many will experience the same bug under the same circumstances.

A) This is a beta and it will have bugs - it's not rocket science.

How is that an even remotely necessary statement to anything?

B) And just because OP finds there are major bugs and crashy, doesn't mean everyone has the same problem.

It means that the OS has bugs, that the OP is free to discuss with fellow iOS 7 beta users, comparing their experiences.

This forum is for people to post what problems they perceive they are facing, as much as others who are not facing any problems. That way we can hear both sides of stories. It's called democracy !!!

What's this post referring to?

 

[jww062]

It is Beta thing really getting old. Dude... I am using developer preview of Windows 8.1... and it is no way crashy like iOS 7 on iPad. By the way, I used all beta version of Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, those are no way close this level. I still remember that I used Windows Vista Beta 3 and Windows 7 Beta 1 and Beta 2 as full time daily OS before.

It is beta thing really not vaild and how are you let developer testing software if it so unstable?

Apple doesn't release the betas to devs so they can test the OS. Developers are to be testing their apps with the new SDK to verify their apps still work and, if applicable, implement new features. The fact that people are seeing bugs in the way wallpaper looks with the blurred docs and the alarm clock not functioning properly and iTunes Radio not working properly are all irrelevant to Apple's goal of beta testing.

Developers can't implement iTunes Radio in their apps. Thus, iTunes Radio not working in the betas isn't a concern. They can test and fix that in-house. On the other hand, Twitter not working can't be fixed in-house. That's something the Twitter devs have to fix.

That's why the devs who make Twitter, Angry Bird, Facebook, Fruit Ninja, Runkeeper, Evernote, and so on get the betas -- so they can test THEIR APPS. Not so that they can play with Apple's new features. Hence why how the OS itself is performing isn't Apple's primary focus with what they release in the betas. Functions of the OS that are implemented in other apps? Yeah, they're concerned about those.

 

[nas2344]

my ios 7 beta 6 is a complete mess! imessage has massive problems! it keeps crashing on me. i got the iphone 5 sprint

 

[MEJHarrison]

This is a forum. People discuss on forums. People discuss iOS 7 beta bugs in the iOS 7 section of the forum.

That's very true.

However, if one wishes to discuss bugs here, it doesn't make much sense to say "I'd like to discuss these bugs, but I don't want anyone to bring up the actual cause of the bugs, but rather pretend that the current beta is what people will receive in a few weeks and run with it from there". You can have that conversation of course, but you should also not be expecting everyone to take a ride on your crazy train.

The entire premise was absurd from the start. Then it was backed up with weak arguments that have absolutely no bearing on how Apple runs things. The only useful thing I've taken from this thread is that the OP has absolutely no clue how software development is done. Well... that and a few laughs.

 

[Tiptizzle]

It is Beta thing really getting old. Dude... I am using developer preview of Windows 8.1... and it is no way crashy like iOS 7 on iPad. By the way, I used all beta version of Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, those are no way close this level. I still remember that I used Windows Vista Beta 3 and Windows 7 Beta 1 and Beta 2 as full time daily OS before.

It is beta thing really not vaild and how are you let developer testing software if it so unstable?

Haha. They just upgraded computers that our customers use at work to Windows 7. Between 2 computers they crashed 3 times and locked up 3 times as well (requiring reboots). It's too bad Microsoft can't release software as stable as their betas...

 

[benji888]

To restate what has already been stated here:

iOS 7 beta is a DEVELOPER PREVIEW, FOR DEVELOPERS who make apps, to test their apps with. PERIOD.

iOS 7 beta IS NOT A PUBLIC BETA FOR CONSUMERS TO "TRY IT OUT" AND SEE HOW WELL THEY LIKE IT. Apple has stated in the "paperwork" that comes with it that it is not a finished product, may contain major or minor bugs...if you read it, they even state in each release some bugs they are already aware of.

Some of the issues people are having with iOS 7 beta has to do with the APPS you are using. This beta is for those people who make those apps, so that they can make sure their apps work with it, and they can add new iOS 7 features to their apps also. These developers will release iOS 7 compatible/optimized versions of their apps to the app store ON OR AFTER iOS7 GOES PUBLIC.

 

[gglittle]

It is Beta thing really getting old. Dude... I am using developer preview of Windows 8.1... and it is no way crashy like iOS 7 on iPad. By the way, I used all beta version of Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, those are no way close this level. I still remember that I used Windows Vista Beta 3 and Windows 7 Beta 1 and Beta 2 as full time daily OS before.

It is beta thing really not vaild and how are you let developer testing software if it so unstable?

Oh hockey puck.

Pointing out that beta software is BETA is ALWAYS valid. A beta release may be tens, if not hundreds, of builds BEHIND the current level of build that the developers are using simply because producing a release, alpha, beta or final, is a costly royal pain in the ass. Betas may very often be released to address specific issues that have been found, and quite often a given beta may NOT address any given bug or reported issues because in this given beta the developers are simply NOT interested in that particular problem. Sorry, but to expect any series of beta releases to incrementally show improvement in all reported issues is indicative of the USERS lack of understanding of how software is developed.

To bitch about any given beta, on a public forum that the developers may or may not know exists, or even care about, is like spitting into a gail force wind. If you don't want your spit in your face, DON'T DO THAT, and if you can't tolerate problems in a beta product then DON'T INSTALL A BETA.