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Will upgrades through the App Store still work correctly using this method? I feel like at one point there was some debate regarding that aspect of the process.

Provided you have purchased it through the App Store you should still be able to upgrade as the purchase is linked to your app store ID.

I did a clean install on a MBP and an upgrade on an iMac. The GM shows up as installed in the App Store Purchased tab on both Macs.
 
lol. I'm probably one of the few here that are old enough to see the humor in this.

Used to "notch" those babies all the time with a paper punch. :D

You are definitely not the only one. That post got a huge laugh out of me...can't tell you how many I used a hole punch on...had used them since the Trash-80. :)
 
What is the legalities of downloading this onto my MBP (purchased 10 days ago so free upgrade for me) making a bootable DVD via this method and then using it to upgrade both my iMac and my parents iMac?

I'm guessing it's a no but thought I'd ask.

According to the keynote you only need to buy one copy to install on all your macs.
 
You are definitely not the only one. That post got a huge laugh out of me...can't tell you how many I used a hole punch on...had used them since the Trash-80. :)
Ah the TRS-80... Go to Radio Shack for some 20amp fuses and while you're there... :) The freaking hours I spent typing in basic code from a magazine just to play an ascii version of "Star Trek". Then saving it to a cassette tape. :eek:

And back to the topic... if it hasn't been mentioned already Lion will put an invisible and "bootable" recovery partition on your drive after installation. Just like Dell and HP. :D
 
Ahhh. Can't wait to create my own bootable Lion installation disc. Reminds me of the good old Windows days, where everything also was unnecessarily complicated. :rolleyes:
 
Steve Jobs quote

I'm sure Steve Jobs was talking about updating an existing Mac to Lion when he said a clean install would require clean installing Snow Leopard first. Surely all Macs announced after Lion ships will only boot from Lion and will come with some sort of software restore disc or flash drive allowing clean installs of Lion.

Using the method presented here (and earlier on other sites) each of us can do a clean install without the hassle of re-installing Snow Leopard first.

Every time there has been a new major OS X version I have done a clean install. Each time I have either purchased a new Mac or a new hard drive and then migrated my apps and data. I'll be doing the same this time only I won't actually start using Lion until fall. I still use PowerPC apps so until I replace them I won't be booting into the new OS.
 
Lion makes a partition for restoring, thus making install discs not needed in most cases. New harddrive? Download the OS again or rip the DMG before hand.

Having an install disk come with shipped Lion computers would be nice just in case.
 
If I copy it to 5.25 floppies, how many will it take?

I've notched them, so they're double sided, if that helps.

My Atari 800 had floppies that held 90 K per side. 180 K per disk. Installer is about 3.7 GB. That's a whopping 21,554 floppies. That's a lot of disk swapping.
 
The other thing to note, is you need to do this before you install Lion.

Lion deletes the installer after you install it. so you'll have to download it again (free) if you wanted to burn the disc later

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edit: yep, fixed to avoid confusion

At that point, can't you just clone the "recovery partition" onto an external HD using Carbon Copy Cloner / etc?

Edit: Oops, I guess not. You are correct that you'll have to re-download it. The recovery partition is not the full install image.
 
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Lion makes a partition for restoring, thus making install discs not needed in most cases.

The restore partition doesn't contain the installer though, it only allows you to redownload it (with relevant download time, ISP fees etc).
 
Really? That's pretty ridiculous in the case of users with multiple machines to upgrade (or who want to keep it local for backup). They should at least ask the user before deleting.

It's a 4GB disk image, the contents of which are copied to a new partition on your hard drive.

Why would they keep it around? They aren't deleting it just to make your life harder ...

Edit: Looked into it and I was going off bad info. The "Recovery" HD isn't really a partition (it is a disk image), and it isn't the entire installer DVD, just about 750MB worth.

Still, I wouldn't want a 4GB installer sitting around forever.
 
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The restore partition doesn't contain the installer though, it only allows you to redownload it (with relevant download time, ISP fees etc).

Really? What if you don't have an inter- ugh, that's dumb.
 
My Atari 800 had floppies that held 90 K per side. 180 K per disk. Installer is about 3.7 GB. That's a whopping 21,554 floppies. That's a lot of disk swapping.

Please insert this disk labeled 21,554 to complete the installation. Disk read error setup cannot continue please insert disk 1 to restart the installation process LOL.
 
There wont be any physical media i.e. a restore disc because it is already on your HD in the recovery partition and the partition is small. It isn't the whole system. Just enough to download and install.
So once Lion is released Apple will do 1 of the 3 choices:

1. Provide a Lion DVD Backup
2. no DVD backup but provide some code to dl Lion from the app store in order to make your own DVD Backup
3. No DVD backup, no dl code. Some new Lion utility to create OS backup.

Which is more likely? I am hoping for option 1.
 
I bought a MacBook Pro a couple of months ago (the new one) and I am planning on downloading Lion as soon as it is released from the App Store. Would it be possible to burn the OS onto a DVD and install it on my dad's "Leopard" MacBook Pro or would he need to update to Snow Leopard first? He has a lot of important data on there so a clean install would not be a viable option. Thanks.
 
DVD+R vs. DVD-R for Lion boot disc?

Can anyone comment on whether DVD+R or DVD-R would be best for burning a Lion install disc?
Also: a Windows version of the Lion boot disc creation method.
Specifically: starting with the InstallESD.dmg file + using only Windows utilities, create a (Apple machine bootable) Lion install disc.
Thanks.
 
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rattler said:
I bought a MacBook Pro a couple of months ago (the new one) and I am planning on downloading Lion as soon as it is released from the App Store. Would it be possible to burn the OS onto a DVD and install it on my dad's "Leopard" MacBook Pro or would he need to update to Snow Leopard first? He has a lot of important data on there so a clean install would not be a viable option. Thanks.

You need latest version of Snow Leopard to upgrade to Lion.

Alternatively, you can try to backup all his data, install Lion from scratch and restore his old stuff.
 
OK, it looks easy to do a Lion installation USB thumbdrive.

Say it is needed for future clean install, how can the iLife apps that came with original SL dvd install on a clean Lion OS?

Will the SL DVD need to be used and how?
Or is there an easier way than keeping an SL DVD around just for that?
Like transferring those to the thumbdrive or something?
 
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