I'm another that's old enoughlol. I'm probably one of the few here that are old enough to see the humor in this.
Used to "notch" those babies all the time with a paper punch.
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Make An OS X Lion Boot Disc
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FINALLY!!!! MacBook Pro, here I come!
Hope to get my new Mac the first day Lion is released!!
FINALLY!!!! MacBook Pro, here I come!
Hope to get my new Mac the first day Lion is released!!
how ?
how do you create a USB thumb drive? do you have to format, partition and sudo bless and all that? or is there any other easiest way?
how do you create a USB thumb drive? do you have to format, partition and sudo bless and all that? or is there any other easiest way?
Different 'household' computers
If my MBP current gen has apple ID 'a' and my fathers current gen mbp has apple id 'b' will this method still allow him to receive updates via the app store as only my ID will show the purchase although we live in the same household???
If my MBP current gen has apple ID 'a' and my fathers current gen mbp has apple id 'b' will this method still allow him to receive updates via the app store as only my ID will show the purchase although we live in the same household???
Sorry to burst your bubble, but while it fits onto a standard DVD disk, this is a tad over 4GB once uncompressed and you will need to invest in an 8GB flash drive.
Guess mostly doing a cleanup of what you installed ...
My installation was original Tiger, than upgraded to Leopard and than upgraded to Snow Leopard (and soon to be upgraded to Lion). It lives already in the second machine (I used CCC to clone it to the new machine). Still works as fine as on the first day and I don't see any disadvantage of upgrading. First I was somewhat reluctant to upgrade since in the windows world my upgrade experiences where less than good, but I followed the advice of many and it just works fine.
I always have a bootable clone of my boot drive on an external drive laying around. I updated it every now and than. Luckily there was never the need to use it ... but that way if you harddrive crashes you can restore from an image that has already all your stuff installed. No need for any 'real' install DVD, I prefere one that has my stuff already installed.
Apple is saving a ton by NOT having to stamp the disks. I doubt they will provide a DVD backup. I believe they will add instructions on the support site on how to burn to disk. Burning a DMG is OSX (Disk Utility) is very easy and personally I don't believe there needs to be standalone application.
Ahhh. Can't wait to create my own bootable Lion installation disc. Reminds me of the good old Windows days, where everything also was unnecessarily complicated.
This would still be complicated in Windows. I don't think Apple could really make it any easier then what Disk Utility provides.
1. Select Destination
2. Select Source Image
3. Burn
Ok... so assuming they are the good 5.25" floppies and hold 1.2MB per side then your looking at around 1960 floppies needed...
And doing some quick research on the Internet I found boxes of 50 5.25" floppies for around $30.00 So get your credit card out for a $1200 charge. :O
check this out: Lion can reinstall itself over the Internet from the recovery partition.
http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/19/lion-...ver-the-internet-from-the-recovery-partition/
Probably pretty slow and fast network connection required, but nice. Wonder if you could do the same thing from another machine on your own network.
http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/19/lion-...ver-the-internet-from-the-recovery-partition/
Probably pretty slow and fast network connection required, but nice. Wonder if you could do the same thing from another machine on your own network.
Well compared to how it was before it is complicated.
Instead of just ordering the disk I'll have to block my internet connection for 5 hours.
Don't bother doing that ... just install it and all your apps and use CCC to make a bootable clone - that way you can reinstall in 15min with all you apps installed. Pretty easy and simple.
You can also do a clean install on a new partition and just transfer your user folder...if anyone is wondering (for SSD purposes) Lion only takes up about 9 GB with nothing else installed.
I thought you just needed a computer with the latest SL to download Lion, but the Lion installer will upgrade from any OS version. I may be wrong, though.
If I have Snow Leopard on one partition of my HDD and Windows 7 on another, can I do a clean install without messing with the partitions/Windows 7?
Also, if I did a clean install, then used time machine to restore all my files and settings, does that defeat the purpose? Thanks for any info.
Also, if I did a clean install, then used time machine to restore all my files and settings, does that defeat the purpose? Thanks for any info.
Something missing in your calculations
Well, to all those floppy-counters, you were overlooking an important factor:
>>> How many floppy-drives will he wear-out writing the Lion Image? <<<
And, btw., I just found a box of 8" floppies in the basement, how about those?
Manfred
Well, to all those floppy-counters, you were overlooking an important factor:
>>> How many floppy-drives will he wear-out writing the Lion Image? <<<
And, btw., I just found a box of 8" floppies in the basement, how about those?
Manfred
so basically this is a way to get Lion without buying it. 'cause i can simply install in every machine from the same dmg (from a copy of lion that i didnt bought), get all the upgrades in every machine without paying a cent? wow, apple should just give away the OS don't you think?
i'm planning to buy Lion, "full" Lion. I'm not planning to buy an upgrade from SnowLeopard to Lion, 'cause that's what's apple probably will sell. at least i show have an option to buy a "full" version of Lion without having to do this unofficial workarounds. i can pay the double, but at least I should have an option: Lion Upgrade Version or Lion Full Version officially, legitimate prepared to be burned in a disc.
just my 2 cents
i'm planning to buy Lion, "full" Lion. I'm not planning to buy an upgrade from SnowLeopard to Lion, 'cause that's what's apple probably will sell. at least i show have an option to buy a "full" version of Lion without having to do this unofficial workarounds. i can pay the double, but at least I should have an option: Lion Upgrade Version or Lion Full Version officially, legitimate prepared to be burned in a disc.
just my 2 cents
I bet we will see physical Lion media sometimes ...
Disk-content-wise, there is no difference between upgrade and a fresh install.
However I expect a good amount of backlash coming towards Apple. The assumption of a fast, flat-rate Internet connection (or else an Apple store around the corner) is not holding for many places in the world.
I expect Lion media (DVD or USB) showing up more sooner than later in Apple retail after enough customer screaming.....
Downloading a navigation app (1.8 GB) for the iPhone at my mother's house in Germany took over 4 hours, and luckily no error killed the the download, and luckily she has a flat rate. But other people have a quota, or have to pay for volume....
Disk-content-wise, there is no difference between upgrade and a fresh install.
However I expect a good amount of backlash coming towards Apple. The assumption of a fast, flat-rate Internet connection (or else an Apple store around the corner) is not holding for many places in the world.
I expect Lion media (DVD or USB) showing up more sooner than later in Apple retail after enough customer screaming.....
Downloading a navigation app (1.8 GB) for the iPhone at my mother's house in Germany took over 4 hours, and luckily no error killed the the download, and luckily she has a flat rate. But other people have a quota, or have to pay for volume....
A clean install would probably not make much sense for a machine that's less than half a year old. However, my machine has been updated since early 2008.
Result: I have tons of preference files and other junk from software I haven't used for ages. Growl is referring to software I don't have anymore. I even found out about a helper process for a program I deleted months ago. This helper process is eating up CPU cycles (not much, but still) and shouting every 5 minutes in the console that it can't find the software it's supposed to talk to anymore. Duh, I removed it!
So this time, I decided, it's time for a clean install. And yes, I'm slightly disappointed about there not being a DVD. On the other hand, Lion is very cheap, and it's not too difficult to make one myself. So I'm good.
Result: I have tons of preference files and other junk from software I haven't used for ages. Growl is referring to software I don't have anymore. I even found out about a helper process for a program I deleted months ago. This helper process is eating up CPU cycles (not much, but still) and shouting every 5 minutes in the console that it can't find the software it's supposed to talk to anymore. Duh, I removed it!
So this time, I decided, it's time for a clean install. And yes, I'm slightly disappointed about there not being a DVD. On the other hand, Lion is very cheap, and it's not too difficult to make one myself. So I'm good.
Apple will allow you to re-download the Lion installer for free, as many times as you want, on as many different systems as you want, as long as you use the same Apple ID that you used for the initial $29.99 download.
This is just a shortcut to save you from having to re-download for each install. If you're shortchanging anyone it's probably only for the connection charges if any, it's not Apple.
This is hilarious. Best post of the day.
Yesterday at work, I was attempting to attach the visual studio debugger to a running process in windows. The attach was taking forever, and making a lot of noise, at first I was concerned, but then saw the floppy disk light flashing. It was looking for dlls on the A: drive while attaching to this process.
I about flipped. I probably could've made the attach go faster if I could've found a disk to stick in the drive, but I couldn't even locate one. If this process weren't written at our company, I would've suspected a virus. Come to think of it, I kind of do anyway...