Because cops don't want to have to check everyones ID when there are thousands of people.
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Mall Rats no more?
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i know but the fact that i can get in trouble even if im of legal age is what i dont agree with. will i get a wristband, most certainly, but if i forget one time? why should i get in trouble if im over 21 even after showing my id?
thats what i dont like
I don't know where you are, but where I am they do indeed come in the malls and start fights that endanger others. And they don't really care about the families with young children that get in the way. That's a public safety issue in my book. It's the whole reason these restrictions got enacted.
Is that "all"? And who pays for that? I'm not willing to.
I'm shocked at the behavior of the teens. They can cry all they want about being banned from the malls. Life isn't always pleasant.
Haha they would be using lots of money. Most of the time when I go to the mall I never actually plan on buying anything....but i get pulled into some shop and end up spending too much money.
Anyway, I would just sprint pass the "door guards" or what not...like they could catch me...
what B.S.....
Anyway, I would just sprint pass the "door guards" or what not...like they could catch me...
what B.S.....
Stated perfectly. I was going to say the same thing.
Frankly, I'm surprised at the number of old todgers who are in favour of this. Just incredible.
For teenagers, you'll have turned the shopping mall from a high-traffic building to a "destination" building, where you only go there if you're looking for something specific. The mall may only lose the $5 that kids spend when they go to the mall (particularly the food court), but it adds up. Also, kids do shop, and have a large disposable income. In fact, for many teenagers, almost all of their money is disposable, and spent on trendy clothes and stuff. Why? Because they saw something at the mall one day and 'had' to get it. Marketing is aimed at younger people for this reason. How are they going to see a shirt they like in the store window when they're almost never in the mall? Again, the mall becomes an empty shell full of "destination stores" where you go if you know what you're looking for.
It's bad business if you ask me. With that attitude, how are you going to get these kids, who eventually grow up, to go to your mall? I'd rather go to another mall that doesn't discriminate based on age. If all malls were to discriminate against under 18s, then these kids will have grown up and become completely unreliant on what the shopping mall has to offer. I guess that's a good thing. They may even grow up to become less materialistic, and spend less money.
Agreed.
Throughout this thread, you've used the poorest analogies I've ever seen from you.
You would be surprised. As a teen, I worked and had far more disposable income than my parents.
And, I purchased a lot more stuff than my parents did. And, the truth is, I would spend more money without my parents than I would if they were there.
I'm much older now, and am a lot more thrifty as to where and on what I'll spend my money.
If you want to get the most money from a person, get it before they turn 18.
Edit: Oh, and yes, I do mean at 15 that I had quite a disposable income. Actually, I did start working at 10. And, by 15 I had seniority over just about all my co-workers and had a pretty good situation. And, I had a pretty decent amount of stuff I had purchased. I purchased everything I had, and anything my parents had previously purchased was replaced. Even the bed I slept on came out of my money. And, as for getting around, there was walking, bicycles, and whatever else. I had no problem with walking 20 miles or so to get somewhere. If my parents didn't take me, I walked or rode a bike. I'd get anywhere I wanted to go. And, as long as you're responsible and mature, there's not really anything wrong with that.
Of course, now I'm raising my own kids. Getting old these days.
ever since you agreed that malls should ban under 18 year olds maybe...
because if he were banned, he couldnt go get that comic. then you say the 10 year old is just buying and leaving.
so why should he be banned and not just the troublemakers? he isnt causing the trouble
You can also say that no person of colour's life is going to be adversely affected because they can't eat at a certain restaurant on a Saturday night.
So it's ok to make fun of fat kids because they're not 18?
And I think "some rights" should include the right to go to a shopping centre. Plus the driving depends on where you live. In many places (such as where I live), driving restrictions applies to all new drivers, not drivers of a particular age group. It's just that there are more teenagers that are first time drivers than middle aged men/women.
There is a law against underage drinking. The legal drinking age is 21 it would be illegal for clubs to serve those under 21. There is no law stating the legal shopping age.
Really?
But I agree with your general view, the owners of private property do have the right to exclude the public if they so wish.
I am generally shocked at the animosity and fear directed at teenagers by some in this thread.
We're just talking about kids here...most are awkward and annoying at times - but harmless. They have been kids hanging out at the mall for about 3 decades, as far as I can remember...
Besides, if they get too uppity for you, you can always beat them off with the stick up your ***.
We're just talking about kids here...most are awkward and annoying at times - but harmless. They have been kids hanging out at the mall for about 3 decades, as far as I can remember...
Besides, if they get too uppity for you, you can always beat them off with the stick up your ***.
I was never a mall rat, but when old enough to drive did frequent them on friday and saturday nights from time to time. This was over 20 years ago, and I think things were somewhat mellower than.
I do hate to say it, but this is a good idea. Ive been the Christiana Mall on several ocassions on a friday or saturday night, and the kids there are animals.
I do hate to say it, but this is a good idea. Ive been the Christiana Mall on several ocassions on a friday or saturday night, and the kids there are animals.
Well things must be very different in the US then.
Of course it'd be wrong to exclude somebody because they are black, but that's not the issue here.
As I understand it the private property owner has excluded children that aren't accompanied by an adult. That is not anything to do with racism.
If you're saying that children shouldn't have any extra controls on their lives and rights then adults then I assume you'll extend that to age of consent for drinking, driving, voting etc.
When your child asks for a beer, do you say no despite their rights, or no because it's it their and society's best interest?
Then you didn't read the entire thread. 1,000 of them had a food fight and caused the mall to close early. There is nothing "harmless" about that.
If someone is denied access due to racism I will stand alongside them to protest. But that's a different issue.
Well, if you want to talk about entering into a contract (buying/selling something), we could open a can of worms there.
That is one incident - which I tend to think might have been overblown by the local media.
How many people can fit in a food court btw?
Even in articles about this new policy and/or that food fight (in 06 iirc) - there is no mention of similar occurances before or after.
Show me one law stating that a teenager has the right to purchase items from a mall.
Its a pretty big food court. Way big enough to hold over 1000 people.
This particular mall has been having problems for years. I like shopping there because I can avoid sales tax, but I usually stay away on weekends because it really is a scary place to shop. I'm not a small guys by any means, but I don't like going there alone on a weekend night. Its just mobbed with teenagers cursing, spitting, smoking inside (which is illegal by DE state law), running around, fighting, etc, etc. I've seen it all. It is a nice mall with a terrible mall rat problem.
There are comic book stores that don't require malls. Plus a 10 year old should not be at the mall alone in the first place, so he would have a parent present.