And if they did, all we'd hear on the news is unarmed man shot by police.
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Man Could Face Charges for Carrying iPhone Gun Case in London Airport
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And if they did, all we'd hear on the news is unarmed man shot by police.
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Lol could you imagine?
Your levels of justification for this are astounding.
This isn't a vaguely gun shaped object (and do you walk around carrying hair dryers sticking out of your pocket?). The entire point of this case is to be confused for a gun sticking out of your pocket, in a crowded public area where people will likely notice and panic.
Even if you your hypothesis that it's super easy for metal detectors to determine a fake (yes, let's just casually not worry about the dude with the gun looking object while he waits in line to go through security), how do you propose everyone else in the airport cope?
Do you propose they issue a special "don't worry everyone this gun is not real" badge for the person to carry around, and maintain a "it's safe not to disregard civilian reports because we already cleared it" list amongst personnel through the the airport? or do you propose everyone at airports should just chill when they see a gun handle sticking out because security MUST have caught it?
Surely we must figure something out because wanting to look like you're carrying a gun in an airport is a fundamental human rights issue.
Common sense would tell you this is a stupid thing to do.
I work on the other side of a shipping ports security so same procedures as a airport.
1 - it could be a weapon that they have not seen before or a home made weapon - They DO NOT KNOW THIS - the police run a fail safe system.
2 3- Yes a Metal detector/XRAY to could see through it but it is an OFFENCE to imitate a weapon as such! Toys are coloured here to make them clear they are toys. Also it appears that this is before XRAY and that the police before security so as far as they knew that could be a weapon in it.
The police operate on a fail safe system. Imagine if it was a gun? Someone was killed? You will be saying that the police did not do their job properly also.
This guy was a tit for it. He broke the law for just having it out of his pocket like a real gun as it imitates one. This is not America. We are much more cautious to guns and we don't see them as a freedom. No one carries a gun around to protect themselves in the UK.
The police did 100% their job here and though this was a false alarm, this guy was carrying something that imitates something that causes alarm.
Remember, DAESH and other terror groups are constantly looking at ways of getting through security...
I'm not saying the guy involved was necessarily (or even likely to have been, IMHO) using that iPhone case as some kind of political statement, lol (probably just someone who foolishly thought it was a 'cool' case). I'm sure MR aren't saying that either! I think they're just saying discussing this story has obviously political aspects to it. If there wasn't any "political nature" to the discussion, it would be a non-story, because no-one would have cared what shape his iPhone case was, or even if he had been carrying an actual gun.
Guns don't kill people. Bullets do.
And that .001% (it's a higher percentage, by the way) is a lot of innocent people.
If you buy this case in the us and are not white you might get shot at for real.
The analogy was dumb regardless... unless your carrying the hair dryer in your pocket or have it tucked in your pants.
The idea of a gun shaped phone case is completely stupid. You needlessly put yourself and, worse, others in a potentially dangerous situation for what? Pulling that case out to answer a phone looks just like drawing a weapon. Even worse the case doesn't have the orange barrel tip indicating it's not real. It's textbook "asking for trouble". To buy and wear something like this (especially in an airport) requires the level on the stupid and irresponsible dial to be cranked to 11.
People have committed "armed" robbery using toy guns. Now try that on an airplane...
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Carrying four ounces of hair gel through airport security is illegal. Why would carrying a fake firearm in an airport be legal?
Can we please drop "retard" as a synonym for "dumb"? I have a close family member who is mentally retarded. There is a huge difference between her daily plight and this stupidity.
Guns don't kill people, rappers do
(I saw it on a documentary on BBC2)
Sorry, could resist the urge to quote Goldie Lookin' Chain lyrics!
He's putting his life in danger. Say he gets surrounded by cops, weapons drawn, ready to make the fire/don't fire decision in the blink of an eye. He wants to show the cops it's only a cell phone case, and nothing to worry about, so he reaches for it.
He'd be lucky to survive.
Its not quite that clear cut..... You can buy imitation/replica/airsoft if you're over 18.
What americans would call "open carry" of imitation/replica/airsoft has its own law in the UK and is banned. So yeah you can buy them, you can own them, you can shoot them, but not in public.
I have no idea what would possess someone to have one of these. They're inconvenient and dangerous.
And for the record, I'm a major 2nd amendment supporter. This isn't about guns per se but about mimicking carrying the real thing. In some places (Nevada, Wyoming, Texas) that might not be a big deal because open carry is normal. In the London airport? Not such a good move.
And for the record, I'm a major 2nd amendment supporter. This isn't about guns per se but about mimicking carrying the real thing. In some places (Nevada, Wyoming, Texas) that might not be a big deal because open carry is normal. In the London airport? Not such a good move.
But its a illegal to open carry them also - the same laws apply to fire arms and imitation in the sense of transport
I have a concealed carry permit. I often have my handgun within reach (unless I am in an area marked "Victims Inside" (or sometimes "No Guns Allowed"). But concealed means no one can see it. You don't know I have it and that's the way it is supposed to be. This case is just nuts. I would only consider it in a state that allowed open carry everywhere, and even then I wouldn't. The only thing this case can do is get you in trouble, and it can't get you out of trouble.
And in an airport? Insane.
And in an airport? Insane.
IF checks are done 100% correctly AND post-check-in airport security has 100% confidence in those checks AND flight attendants PLUS every single passenger have 100% confidence that the checks would have weeded out a real weapon... then, yes, everyone would just truly believe that thing sticking out of his belt was a toy, and act accordingly.
Do you honestly believe it is possible or feasible for check-in security to be so effective that everyone should just assume something that appears to be a gun is not?
Would you?
Not a wrong definition. He acted like a 5 year old kid. Even if he were a teenager, I would call retardation.
Carrying this in an airport in Nevada, Wyoming, or Texas is equally irresponsible.