Sears and Kmart will be dead and gone within two years, so it hardly matters...
Dont forget BestBuy..
Sears and Kmart will be dead and gone within two years, so it hardly matters...
yes you're right - but from reading the article it seems that each individual vendor has to explicitly agree to accepting apple pay. thereby it's effectively making Applepay into another type of card, no?
right now, a vendor can choose to accept Visa, Mastercard etc.
With apple pay, vendors can then explicitly choose to accept visa, mastercard AND applepay..?
am i missing something?
It will be an impossible position soon enough.Realize that there are potentially two really good reasons to not support ApplePay or not be on yet.
1. They sttill want to continue harvasting data from and tracking their customers, security be damned.
2. Contractually locked into agreeements with a payment processor who doesnt support or doesnt want(see 1) ApplePay.
Yeah, the world doesn't quite work like that.
Apple does not dictate how people make purchases and how people spend their money. People will continue to use plastic and stores will continue to accept plastic for many many years.
NFC will slowly start coming into play, but it isn't even close to being a primary payment method at this point. While some major companies are on board, plenty more smaller companies and Mom and Pop stores won't.
Imagine, if you will, you're taking a vacation somewhere outside of a major city. You only have your iPhone with you and no plastic, because you don't want to do business anywhere you can't use your iPhone for purchases.
You run out of gas. The only gas station near you still accepts plastic.
You're going to feel mighty silly trying to pay for gas using your iPhone.
Does anyone still shop at Best Buy, Sears, or Kmart anymore?
Amazon prime means everything at those stores gets to my doorstep in 2 days' time.
Realize that there are potentially two really good reasons to not support ApplePay or not be on yet.
1. They sttill want to continue harvasting data from and tracking their customers, security be damned.
2. Contractually locked into agreeements with a payment processor who doesnt support or doesnt want(see 1) ApplePay.
Places with apple pay will be getting priority.
american express has been around forever and isnt accepted everywhere. what makes apple think it can come in and do an exponentially better job?
The world can, and will, change quicker than you think.
McDonald's owns Chipotle. How can Chipotle not be on board?
Yeah, the world doesn't quite work like that.
Apple does not dictate how people make purchases and how people spend their money. People will continue to use plastic and stores will continue to accept plastic for many many years.
NFC will slowly start coming into play, but it isn't even close to being a primary payment method at this point. While some major companies are on board, plenty more smaller companies and Mom and Pop stores won't.
Imagine, if you will, you're taking a vacation somewhere outside of a major city. You only have your iPhone with you and no plastic, because you don't want to do business anywhere you can't use your iPhone for purchases.
You run out of gas. The only gas station near you still accepts plastic.
You're going to feel mighty silly trying to pay for gas using your iPhone.
This is all about making the iPhone more indispensable while also causing a hassle for anyone switching to Android.
Yes, you are missing something. When you say, "With apple pay, vendors can then explicitly choose to accept visa, mastercard AND applepay" is incorrect. That statement makes Apple sound to be a type of credit card, when it is not.
The store just needs to accept NFC payments. It is the credit card module that has a symbol that looks like a sideways wifi bar signal. If they have this, they accept apple pay. They can't exclude Apple Pay without excluding ALL of the NFC payments out there.
I don't know where you're located, but McDonalds, for example, has these modules in probably every store in the USA. They accept NFC payments. That's all that matters. They can't accept NFC while excluding Apple. It's all or nothing.
It comes down to this... These stores aren't explicitly saying no to Apple Pay. Instead, they are saying no to accepting NFC. By them calling it apple pay just goes to show how powerful apple is in entering an industry, already using their coined term for the technology.
So when Costco says no to apple pay, they're really saying no to NFC machines altogether.
Be careful you don't wake up from your dream too quickly, it will be a big shock to your system.
Apple does not rule the world. And they certainly don't rule other companies.
If you think smaller businesses and Mom and Pop shops will suddenly invoke NFC just because Apple is finally adding a chip into their new iPhone's, you're in for a rude awakening.
I wonder if many merchants don't want to have a payment system called Apple Pay.
Maybe they do not want to be seen as being involved with Apple with what most people. even techs and banking people I know, think is a proprietary system even though it is not. I can see them as not wanting to offend customers who have the other phones. One day Google and Microsoft will add the same technology to their phones and stores will add it for the 2015 rules change and that will be how things are done. But not everyone wants it to be called Apple Pay.
They won't do it for Apple alone, but they will because they won't want to take responsibility for fraudulent transactions starting next fall, so they'll be upgrading their systems anyway.
It's Apple who is just jumping on board. People with Android phones have been able to make purchases via NFC for a long time.
Out of interest, would the price of the product make a difference? In all honesty, if the Apple Pay retailer's price was a couple of pounds/dollars/euros more, would you still go there?