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Mark Zuckerberg Reportedly Told Staff Facebook Needs to 'Inflict Pain' on Apple Over Privacy Dispute
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For someone like Zuck who is a textbook narcissist, he takes Apple’s privacy stance as a personal attack. He’s convinced himself that he’s meant to be a king and to have Apple threaten that becomes a personal thing.
What Facebook sells isn't just 'ads of products'. Facebook sells sustained micro-changes in your behaviour over time to the highest bidder. Sometimes it's innocuous stuff like buying non-iron shirts. Other times its polarisation and radicalisation of people in a way that undermines society.
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I can't agree enough with you. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram (also Facebook) as well as the MSM are all complicit in the polarization of people politically and religiously.
It’s all about greed. The more advertising revenue Facebook makes, the higher their stock goes up and the more money Zuck makes.
Facebook: make Apple suffer.
Also Facebook: Let us lie to the Congress.
This only eases the case for Tim Apple.
Also Facebook: Let us lie to the Congress.
This only eases the case for Tim Apple.
Ryanair boss must be the biggest scum CEO ever. “Jab and Go!” - clearly all Mr O’Leary is money. I guess we’ve always known that. As for FB - left it a decade ago. Instagram and WA too.
If Apple didn't sell hardware, they wouldn't be Apple so you're creating a fictitious company for your hypothetical argument.
The question is: if Facebook ceased to exist, what would really be missing?
There's still linked-in for keeping in contact with people you actually happened to work or study with.
There's Meetups (when they can actually take place again...) and people could probably join mailing-lists or forums about topics they are interested in (gardening, pets - whatever).
It doesn't have to be all hosted on the platform of one giant multi-billion mega-corp.
There's still linked-in for keeping in contact with people you actually happened to work or study with.
There's Meetups (when they can actually take place again...) and people could probably join mailing-lists or forums about topics they are interested in (gardening, pets - whatever).
It doesn't have to be all hosted on the platform of one giant multi-billion mega-corp.
That's called complying with the local laws where Apple does business.
Apple doesn’t track you (I’m not 100% sure about that) but it sure loves to take advantage of the companies that do. Apple complains about google and Facebook while at the same time it uses Google’s data to advertise its iPhones and Macs in YouTube and Google...
In other words, Facebook and google track you because of clients like Apple.
Someone needs to silence this little globalist threat and Facebook - WAR ON BIG COMMUNIST TECH HAS BEGUN !
How Facebook could control it's own destiny or have better control:
1. Build a FaceBook browser (pray it's adopted.)
2. Build an OS if the browser is successful.
3. Enter hardware space with eye on phones and laptops.
By doing those things they have more control and can hurt Apple especially if they started pulling their apps from the App Store. Highly unlikely anyone would adopt any of the stuff above if Facebook went that route.
1. Build a FaceBook browser (pray it's adopted.)
2. Build an OS if the browser is successful.
3. Enter hardware space with eye on phones and laptops.
By doing those things they have more control and can hurt Apple especially if they started pulling their apps from the App Store. Highly unlikely anyone would adopt any of the stuff above if Facebook went that route.
It would be great to see less cooperation between big tech companies. Let them create and maintain their own plugins to have integration with the OS instead of Apple implementing it through back door deals that end up pushing its users to services it has partnered up with. It just turns into commercials or coercion to use one monopoly over another. I would rather see options that let the user decide to use ANY service they want and not just the ones Apple made back room deals with.
I don't disagree however the Facebook feed was once chronological. When they had enough data on all its users they change the feed algorithm to bring up posts which draw you in to addictive psychological loops. Facebooks knows you were in a relationship with "x" so let's make sure we present you a photo of her with "z" because their facial Recognition software can detect that it is a new man. That is the issue.
Serving up advertising is one thing, serving them up when Facebook has lead you into an emotional state is deceptive and would be illegal on any other medium.
Apple and Facebook have been in a very public spat over the course of the last few months as Apple dials up its pro-privacy stance. The two companies have long had tension, more recently however Facebook is taking shots at an upcoming iOS and iPadOS feature that will require apps and data companies such as Facebook to ask for users' permission before tracking them across other sites and websites.
While for the most part, the war of words between the tech titans has remained professional, Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook have also shared a barrage of attacks towards each other. During an interview in 2018 in the midst of Facebook's notorious Cambridge Analytica scandal, Cook was asked how he would lead Apple if it were to face a similar crisis. Cook responded by ruling the hypothetical situation out of the question, saying Apple would not be in the situation Facebook was in, thanks to its differing stance on privacy and user data. Zuckerberg shot back, calling Cook's comments on TV "extremely glib" and "not at all aligned with the truth."
Zuckerberg, outraged by Cook's comments and public influence on Facebook's reputation, reportedly told internal aides and team members that Facebook needs to "inflict pain" on Apple, according to sources who spoke on anonymity to The Wall Street Journal. Last month, during the company's earnings call, Zuckerberg called Apple an increasingly bigger threat to Facebook and accused the Cupertino tech giant of using its platforms to interfere with how Facebook operates its own apps.
The day after the public comments, Cook responded indirectly in a speech during the Computers, Privacy, and Data Protection conference where he condemned Facebook and implied that its business model of maximizing engagement leads to division and violence. During the same speech, Cook censured Facebook's potential role in the January 6 Capitol riot, blaming the social media company's algorithms for spreading conspiracy theories.
In December, Facebook ran full-page ads attacking Apple's up-and-coming ATT or App Tracking Transparency requirement that will force apps to ask for the user's permission before tracking them across apps and the internet. Facebook is attacking Apple from the standpoint that ATT will hurt small businesses who rely on personalized ads derived from effective tracking. In response, Cook directly weighed in on Twitter, stating that Apple simply wants to give users a choice about whether they wish to be tracked or not.
Despite the personal jabs and attacks, in a statement given to The Wall Street Journal, Facebook spokeswoman Dani Lever refuted the idea that the tension between the companies is personal, suggesting instead that it was "about the future of the free internet." Facebook states that choosing between tracking users for personalized ads and protecting their privacy is a "false-trade off," claiming that it believes it can provide both. The spokeswoman reiterated past remarks by Facebook stating that Apple's privacy features are not meant to preserve user privacy, but are instead about increasing profit, and that Facebook will join others to highlight Apple's "self-preferencing, anticompetitive behavior."
Apple declined to comment on the report.
Facebook is reportedly planning to take its disapproval with Apple to court, as it's allegedly been preparing to file an antitrust lawsuit against the Cupertino-based tech-company over its "unfair" approach to privacy with ATT and iMessage. As part of its lawsuit, Facebook is considering partnering with other companies such as Epic Games, which is already embroiled in a massive legal battle with Apple to propel its antitrust case forward. Facebook may however scrap its plans to bring forward any form of legal action against Apple.
Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who leads the Republican's effort in the Senate antitrust subcommittee, told The Wall Street Journal that the feud between Apple and Facebook sits at the "nexus of privacy and antitrust," and that he doesn't want to "impose regulation that just ends up protecting incumbents and entrenching monopolies."
Apple has committed to launching ATT with iOS and iPadOS 14.5 in the "early spring" and Facebook has seemingly admitted defeat in its failed attempt to stop the new requirement from going into action. Apps have the freedom to customize the prompt that users will receive asking for their permission to be tracked across other apps and the web, and screenshots of Facebook's prompt for its iOS app pleads with users to opt-in to tracking in order to receive "a better ads experience."
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In an ideal world facebook not only would collapse. Zuckerberg would also be forced to compensate his victims. He would be broke, drowning in debt rather than being a billionaire. He‘d be lucky to escape prison.
Unfortunately it is not an ideal world we live in
Unfortunately it is not an ideal world we live in
Facebook is pure S h T.
Hopefully it goes away along with ALL social media!
Hopefully it goes away along with ALL social media!
Everyone, please stop using Facebook. He’s only as powerful as you allow him to be.
Since Apple do sell hardware and not selling our data for most of their profit, what is your point?
woulda, shoulda, coulda...
Nooo, but it does include Australia where FB&google are throwing tantrums like a good three year old.
I was thinking a high functioning sociopath.
I’m gonna be very frank here. I don’t trust any corporation to be altruistic or noble. But in this particular instance I do have a good deal of personal faith that Tim Cook has a genuine interest in the protection of privacy for individuals.
Remember he grew up in a time and worked in a state (Texas) during his tenure at Compaq that was not open or hospitable to gay people at all. He had to put up with constant scrutiny and people prying into his personal life. This could not have been easy and without question shaped his perceptions of privacy and the value it holds.
I say this with confidence as a gay person myself. And one who also worked in and the same relative location and among similar circles of individuals. I give Tim Cook full credit here for doing something he believes in and setting a standard based not on pure self interest but empathy and compassion.
I do not believe he is a superior leader or product visionary to Steve Jobs but this is not about that and he really is the right person for the job to champion something so important as the most basic individual right to privacy.
Remember he grew up in a time and worked in a state (Texas) during his tenure at Compaq that was not open or hospitable to gay people at all. He had to put up with constant scrutiny and people prying into his personal life. This could not have been easy and without question shaped his perceptions of privacy and the value it holds.
I say this with confidence as a gay person myself. And one who also worked in and the same relative location and among similar circles of individuals. I give Tim Cook full credit here for doing something he believes in and setting a standard based not on pure self interest but empathy and compassion.
I do not believe he is a superior leader or product visionary to Steve Jobs but this is not about that and he really is the right person for the job to champion something so important as the most basic individual right to privacy.