Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple Vision Pro Has No 'Magical Solutions'

[Internaut]

Late to this one. LOL and all it’s variants. You just watch The Zuck unpivot/repivot/whatever if this, as is likely, is a success with early adopters. Far from being an “innovative disruptor”, he really is, at heart, a dedicated follower of fashion.

 

[O and A]

Yeah, but it will not have face tracking, it will not be 4k, and it will not have 4k pass through.

While next year's Meta Quest Pro model will have all the Vision Pro's features for half the price.

And how do you know what will happen one year from now for any of these companies?

 

[Alan Wynn]

Hes not wrong the AVP is supremely overpriced. How many of you are going to spend a used car budget for thie AVP?

I expect these will sell very well for use in film production. Based on what we know, there is no better Director’s monitor for Virtual Production at anywhere near the cost of this.

 

[larrylaffer]

"The very fact that you oppose this makes me think I'm on to something"

 

[BobSc]

Hes not wrong the AVP is supremely overpriced. How many of you are going to spend a used car budget for thie AVP?

"Supremely overpriced"??? If anything, it's underpriced considering what it can do, it's refinement, and it's components. If the price is a used car budget, then I suspect someone simply can't afford it. It's sad that this seems to make people bash it.

 

[Ghost31]

Zuckerberg is also afraid he will never come close to what Apple has to offer. See it for yourself.

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That’s just a regular picture of mark Zuckerberg.

 

[jimmydx]

I think y’all missing the point here; the biggest reason this is different and something that no company can match: the software/hardware tight integration. Zuckerberg and Meta can compare all they want in terms of specs, and even say they do somethings better (like possible 120 Hz screen since, sadly, Vision Pro is 90 Hz), but Apple is gonna blow them out of the water with their APIs and UIs and their capabilities. This is the true transformative product here. So you should be thinking about the software, its development and its future.

 

[Avatar74]

I expect these will see very will for use in film production. Based on what we know, there is no better Director’s monitor for Virtual Production at anywhere near the cost of this.

Can't. Even with the Studio XDR displays out there, you can't interface with most Arri, Panavision, RED cameras and virtualization systems for on-set fx previz ... none of Apple's displays have SDI inputs, which are required for video village.

Also, you couldn't use it for straight up filming due to latency. That would be true of any VR headset. Production systems all have zero latency monitoring passthrough.

Motion pictures are not a practical application for the AVP, as much as I like the tech, motion picture and television production is a completely different thing... AVP has lots of applications in professional applications but that isn't one of them.

 

[Ghost31]

People laugh, but every SINGLE time a new product from Apple comes out consumers themselves say this stupid crap. Apple Watch? Who needs that when you can tell time on your phone? Fail. AirPods? They look silly. Easy to lose. Another thing to charge. Overpriced

And here we go with nobody learning from the past and people already announcing this product as a fail. Don’t forget to save these comments so you can make a nice collage’ when everybody follows apples lead and 10 years down the line everybody is wearing these things like it’s commonplace

 

[owaint]

Attacking any brand new tech on price is just weird. This thing will stand or fall on whether it’s any good or not. If it is (and it may well be) then it will not only succeed but it will thrive. And it will do so while becoming exponentially cheaper - the price will be irrelevant in two years.

 

[Ghost31]

To be fair, Apple's Vision is just a rich mans novelty toy. What practical use does it currently have? What problem does it solve that any of us need fixing for $3,500?

But go on, praise Apple for some reason!

“Wahhh what problem does it solve”. How many more times are we gonna hear this? It solves the problem of me not having to bring an entire computer monitor set up every time I travel and want to work remotely. There. Now you have a use case. No reason to ever say “what problem does it solve” like this thing has no purpose for existing

 

[macfacts]

They require an apple account though…

Also doesn't work with windows or other devices (like video game consoles).

 

[257Loner]

Instead of considering the Vision Pro a competitor to the Metaverse, Mark Zuckerberg should be interested in releasing Facebook and Metaverse apps for the Vision Pro and continue to monetize off of ads and in-app purchases in each of their social networks. Google makes money selling ads on free software available on Apple hardware, and Facebook should consider doing the same thing.

 

[roar08]

Hes not wrong the AVP is supremely overpriced. How many of you are going to spend a used car budget for thie AVP?

Depends, right? The last used car I bought was $90k.

 

[SFjohn]

Is it me? Go on, I can take it. Better than being number two though 🤪

Nope, sorry… 🤷

 

[mike090910]

Such a mark response

 

[Moofo]

Sound like blackberry and Microsoft when the iPhone was unveiled.

 

[dandyryan]

what are zuck's "magical solutions"? showing magical ads to someone after secretly recording their conversations?

 

[Kierkegaarden]

Mark says the “metaverse” is “fundamentally social” — as users have to isolate themselves in a headset in order to experience it? Does he really believe this rubbish?

Is using any electronic device itself considered a “social experience”, or are there software experiences used on hardware that can help us stay connected? Those software experiences can happen on a mobile phone, desktop/laptop, tablet, and now a spacial device.

 

[JtheLemur]

Ahahahaha what a dope

 

[williamkey123]

Hes not wrong the AVP is supremely overpriced. How many of you are going to spend a used car budget for thie AVP?

What kind of POS are you buying for $3500? 8 year old vehicles with 80k miles on them are like $20k.

Anyway, I'm going to buy it. It's the same price as a nice MacBook Pro.

 

[Avatar74]

You didn't read what I said "next year's Meta Quest Pro model" , not this year's

Is this some model that you're imagining? Well, then yeah ok, NEXT NEXT year's Apple Vision Pro is going to have a neural link, realtime brain recording, and a multi trillion pixel 360 degree holographic display, with a battery the size of a walnut that can power the entire city of Hoboken, New Jersey.

Otherwise, if we're actually talking reality, Meta will continue using the Snapdragon XR that they've used on several models now... even if they up-leveled five or six tiers of processor, they wouldn't be close to the M2... without just remaking the Magic Leap 2 or HoloLens which cost ... about the same as an AVP with a tenth the features.

 

[SFjohn]

how many hours per day does Tim Cook spend inside a Vision Pro?

Ask him? 😉

 

[Avatar74]

LOL //

NEXT NEXT year's Apple Vision Pro is going to have a neural link, realtime brain recording, and a multi trillion pixel 360 degree holographic display, with a battery the size of a walnut that can power the entire city of Hoboken, New Jersey.

Show the proof ? just don't name some geek words ..

Dude... go back and read what I wrote. I was satirizing the guy I was replying to, not actually claiming that any of this exists. He was making up specs for a headset that doesn't exist.

 

[diskrisk]

It's so obvious how he's trying to turn the narrative in his favour with this whole thing:

More importantly, our vision for the metaverse and presence is fundamentally social. It's about people interacting in new ways and feeling closer in new ways. Our device is also about being active and doing things. By contrast, every demo that they showed was a person sitting on a couch by themself.

He's trying to make it look like Vision is the one that isolates people, unlike his metaverse, which is *totally* not designed as a replacement of real life interaction for the sake of monopolizing socialization. Yeah, it's *totally* not that, Mark.