No more twix for me....I don't eat the others. It seems I will have to look at these chocolate bars contents more carefully.
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Masterfoods puts animal product in chocolate - Mars, Snickers, Maltesers etc
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Read a few post back.. they apologized due to the responses of the consumers and are reverting back to a vegetable base product. So you will be able to still eat your Twix
Hurrah Only just saw the news! Really pleased about this, I knew it didn't seem right.
Only just saw the news! Really pleased about this, I knew it didn't seem right.
I grew up in between a bunch of farms, and while I live in london now, I still try to be aware of where my food comes from and how it was produced.
Regarding your point about organic zero grazing, is that a USA thing? I've heard that due to the power of the ag industry, the standards for 'organic' are much lower than in the EU.
e.g. pushing to allow irradiated / genetic engineered food to be classified as organic http://organicconsumers.org/irrad/noIrradOrg.htm
(warning - contains bias. Mentions that the ag-industry successfully pushed for long-term animal confinement to be acceptable for organic labelling)
Even in the UK, organic standards are a bit lower than in the rest of Europe. I spoke to one UK organic farmer who said that when the Soil Association was first set up, it took something like 12 years to convert a farm to organic, then it changed to 6 years, then 4 years. Now he said there were moves to push it down to 2 years. (I could be out of date.)
umm MILK chocolate???
Maltesers are a confectionery product manufactured by Mars Incorporated. They consist of a spherical malt honeycomb centre, surrounded by milk chocolate.
Snickers are milk-chocolate
I could not find twix info, but it seems like much of these are milk chocolate, which already would contain an animal product.
Maltesers are a confectionery product manufactured by Mars Incorporated. They consist of a spherical malt honeycomb centre, surrounded by milk chocolate.
Snickers are milk-chocolate
I could not find twix info, but it seems like much of these are milk chocolate, which already would contain an animal product.
Maltesers are a confectionery product manufactured by Mars Incorporated. They consist of a spherical malt honeycomb centre, surrounded by milk chocolate.
Snickers are milk-chocolate
I could not find twix info, but it seems like much of these are milk chocolate, which already would contain an animal product.
I think this has been addressed already above. In short, milking a cow does not kill it. To produce rennet, they use stomachs saved from the post-slaughter processing of veal.
I disagree with you on certain things. I agree that since they own their product, it is their will to include and exclude whatever ingredients they choose to. However, I believe that they initially targeted their products to the general public which included both vegetarians and non-vegetarians. That was the reason a lot of vegetarians consumed such chocolates, and being one of the best chocolates, you can see how it can affect the vegetarian community. As a maltesers and mars lover, I enjoyed them, but as a vegetarian, I am now disappointed that I can no longer consume maltesers. It makes me very sad as it was my favorite chocolate.
I am not aware why they want to include this ingredient, perhaps this would decrease their cost of production while keeping the same taste? I have no idea, but I am disappointed. Nevertheless, I can only hope that they reconsider but I doubt that will happen.
You do realize, I hope, that you just resurrected an Eleven year old thread and that most of the respondents on it are long since gone..?
I have to ask what is the basis for being a vegetarian, is it a health standard, a philophical standard or both? I’m thinking, what little bit of animal protein in a candy bar would not hurt ones health as much as the associated sugars of eating milk chocolate.
Doesn't surprise me a bit considering the "user name"You do realize, I hope, that you just resurrected an Eleven year old thread and that most of the respondents on it are long since gone..?
Not all of the respondents are gone ...You do realize, I hope, that you just resurrected an Eleven year old thread and that most of the respondents on it are long since gone..?
Not all of the respondents are gone ...
That was the funny thing, @DrClueless actually managed to respond to someone who was still very much alive n' kicking here (@Abstract). Blind squirrel, nuts and all that...
The issue is not so much the use of animal rennet (although that decision - to use animal rennet - was reversed subsequently) so much as the fact that the company did not notify its customer base that it intended to make this change in advance.
In turn, this meant that those who had - or may have - bought the product in good faith, thinking it was vegetarian friendly, were wrong and had been kept in the dark by the producer.
I've read the entire thread - it took me a minute or two to realise that it had been resurrected from over a decade ago - and I would certainly have reservations about a company that changes the composition of key products without notifying its customer base in advance.
Personally, I'm not vegetarian, but I try to source my food ethically, and I am passionate about knowing what goes into food. I am one of those who reads labels closely, and I give thanks to the EU for enacting and enforcing strict rules on labelling food items.
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You do realize, I hope, that you just resurrected an Eleven year old thread and that most of the respondents on it are long since gone..?
I suggested in the forum feedback a super simple bit of logic to prevent this semi-common occurrence, someone went *quack quack quack* about the complexity and some kind of rambling about "old threads can be pertinent" and that was that
I'm here too! (Amazingly!)Not all of the respondents are gone ...
And this is still a valid discussion. I have a friend with severe Celiac Disease. According to her, many "Gluten Free" products aren't 100%. So the labels may be misleading. USDA "Organic" only needs to be 95%. So what's the level for vegetarian? For Kosher? Do these folks have the same rights as people with nutritional issues? What's the level? Where's the line?
Rereading the thread, I see major points emerging:
1) Does a food producer have the right to hide from their customers the ingredients/sources/manufacturing techniques of their products?
2) Does a customer have the right to know everything about their food products?
And for the sake of my own positions:
3) Does the average consumer have enough agricultural/chemistry/food safety knowledge to make informed decisions based on the information given? If the answer is no, how do we educate consumers so we can have an informed, fear-free conversation?
(I constantly see people insinuate that GMO and organic are opposites when they are actually two very different things.)
Finally and just as important as 3:
4) How do we get the producers to the table with some sense of transparency and earnestness?
(Producers aren't innocent. Look at the "Marketing slight-of-hand" that goes on. Products are labeled "free from GMO's" that don't exist (looking at you, Cheerios, though the did back off of this one). "Hormone-free" chicken when hormones are illegal for use in US chicken and pork.)
I think we are still as far away from answering these questions now as we were those years ago.
Some of us went then came back under new namesNot all of the respondents are gone ...