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So these are the guys who will build my future car....?
(and speaking about bluetooth: will that connect to my iPhone ?)
 
These peelings are obviously not scratch related. But with so many million units produced, i think its quite reasonable to expect some percent of them to have manufacture defects...
 
A $100,000 luxury shouldn't have manufacturing issues/defects but they do.

Tl;dr. Bring it back, it sounds like a manufacturing issue unfortunately as opposed to the hyperbole that "Apple is cost cutting" to improve profits.

That you don't understand why these phones are so popular is on you, not in the consumer.

You should buy what's best for you.
No it happens because they make the iPhone in China which is a form of cost cutting to improve margins. Just like Touch Disease. The same company who makes Huawei's phones makes Apple's iPhones. But Tim's Apple only cares about profits hence they will continue to let it slide. In fact hissgate and bendgate happened because of manufacturing phons there.


I am scared about my 7 Plus now. Just took it out and so far so good. If this peels and Apple refuses to give me a replacement, the Apple-free household will be converting sooner than expected. This is unacceptable when the competition doesnt have any sort of defects whatsoever and are using fancier designs
 
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iPhone 7 Matte Black been in a case since day one. Took it out of the box and put it directly into the case before even turning it on. A few weeks later i took it out to admire the phone and found all these chips in the paint at the bottom of the back of the phone ( as seen in pic). This is my first black iPhone since the iPhone 4. I had gold iPhone 5 & 5S, and gold for iPhone 6 and 6S, none of those phones ever had any chips in the paint like the iPhone 7. And these chips are deep. I used the same brand case as i did with the iPhone 6/6S.

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Can you try taking a different photo on a plainer background and perhaps wipe down the phone from rest? The white specks that look like chips also seem to be on the background; when I tap on the photo it enlarges to show this. It also shows what appears to be a lot of dust or pocket lint embedded in the speaker holes and crevices. There is also a lot of scraping or small abrasive scratch marks at the bottom edge on the antenna line. It all combines to make your phone look abused rather than experiencing the spontaneous chipping that's going on. But that could just be the picture and other factors coming together to form the wrong impression.

What case do you have? My teen has a jet black iPhone in a Speck case that's rather stiff and hardsheeled. So in taking the case off and putting it on a few times I've scuffed it up a tiny bit with micro scratches on the antenna lines, similar to what I think I see on your iPhone.
 
No it happens because they make the iPhone in China which is a form of cost cutting to improve margins. The same company who makes Huawei's phones makes Apple's iPhones. But Tim's Apple only cares about profits hence they will continue to let it slide. In fact hissgate and bendgate happened because of manufacturing phons there
No that's not why it happens. It happens due to an issue with the manufacturing process. Where the phone is made is irrelevant; but since you mentioned it, jobs started it. So it's really on jobs then. Right?:rolleyes: There was no "bendgate" and "hissgate" was probably a side-effect of the chip design, as many chips exhibit this, which is now history. But there was an "antennagate", which had everything to do where the phone was manufactured.o_O

The same hyperbole seems to be constantly rehashed.
 
Is there any aluminum device that has better paint job than these of Apple? I want to switch to another brand.
Not that I know of. I own a drop dead gorgeous HTC 10 in red. From reading other reviews and comments the dark colors of this model show scratches and the black variant in particular can look rough if not babied. People are complaining about the black Pixels looking a mess quickly too. Samsung flagships get complaints about the paint chipping off the home button. The list of phones and complaints goes on and on.
 
No that's not why it happens. It happens due to an issue with the manufacturing process. Where the phone is made is irrelevant;
I cant believe I need to point out the obvious. Chinese phones have crap quality. The same company which builds a Chinese phone builds the iPhone. They need to make the phone ANYWHERE but China. Manufacutring processes in China are probably outdated and using substandard materials to lower the price. Reason why cos make in China is because of lower costs. Lower costs = Lower quality. Fact

but since you mentioned it, jobs started it. So it's really on jobs then. Right?:rolleyes: There was no "bendgate" and "hissgate" was probably a side-effect of the chip design, as many chips exhibit this, which is now history. But there was an "antennagate", which had everything to do where the phone was manufactured.o_O

Bendgate happened because lower quality aluminium was used which was fixed with the next release. No chip apart from A10 exhibits this. Figures if that was made in China too



[EUOTI am scared about my 7 Plus now. Just took it out and so far so good. If this peels and Apple refuses to give me a replacement, the Apple-free household will be converting sooner than expected. This is unacceptable when the competition doesnt have any sort of defects whatsoever and are using fancier designs [/quote]
 
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I cant believe I need to point out the obvious. Chinese phones have crap quality. The same company which builds a Chinese phone builds the iPhone. They need to make the phone ANYWHERE but China. Manufacutring processes in China are probably outdated and using substandard materials to lower the price. Reason why cos make in China is because of lower costs. Lower costs = Lower quality. Fact



Bendgate happened because lower quality aluminium was used which was fixed with the next release. No chip apart from A10 exhibits this. Figures if that was made in China too

And if you missed my edited post

I am scared about my 7 Plus now. Just took it out and so far so good. If this peels and Apple refuses to give me a replacement, the Apple-free household will be converting sooner than expected. This is unacceptable when the competition doesnt have any sort of defects whatsoever and are using fancier designs
You're not pointing out the obvious, the whole post is hyperbole. Starting with jobs, phones have been made a foxconn for many years and they are high quality devices. Low quality <> fact. Period.

There was no "bendgate". Because then every phone would have been affected and that clearly wasn't the case. All phones can be damaged by excess force applied to them.

Whatever about your iphone is anecdotal, and if you decide to be a apple-free household, it seems the universe will not really care. And if you think the competition has no "defects whatsoever" (except for "flamegate" which you forgot to mention--let's liberally hand out the "gates" here:rolleyes:) you should do what you think is right for you. (A fancier design, does not mean a "fancier phone" btw)
 
You're not pointing out the obvious, the whole post is hyperbole. Starting with jobs, phones have been made a foxconn for many years and they are high quality devices. Low quality <> fact. Period.

There was no "bendgate". Because then every phone would have been affected and that clearly wasn't the case. All phones can be damaged by excess force applied to them.

Whatever about your iphone is anecdotal, and if you decide to be a apple-free household, it seems the universe will not really care. And if you think the competition has no "defects whatsoever" ( you should do what you think is right for you. (A fancier design, does not mean a "fancier phone" btw)
Lower quality paint has been used. Even phones in cases are exhibiting this. Lower quality paint is cheaper . And we know where cheaper quality components are made.
 
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Lower quality paint has been used. Even phones in cases are exhibiting this. Lower quality paint is cheaper . And we know where cheaper quality components are made.

If it was a manufacturing issue this would have shown up on other iPhones as its the same design being used for 3 years
More hyperbole. You can't claim to know anything about the manufacturing process or the paint used. The jet black uses a different manufacturing process and it's possible there was an issue with a batch of phones, rather than this nonsense about lower quality devices.

Apple is not immune to manufacturing problems on a large scale. The note 7, samsung washing machines, samsung active are all great examples of that.

It's one thing to have a manufacturing issue, it's quite another to continue the hyperbole of the profit motive being at the root cause of all of this.
 
Happened on my old Nexus 6P. Apple is just another company using crappy shortcuts to maximize profits. Can't blame them because it's not a warranty issue for the most part while they have people buying their new products each new cycle. This new iPhone X or whatever it's called? People are probably going to spend $1100-$1200 usd for the "best experience."
 
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Uh huh. Blame the guy who doesn't design the paint, or the hardware, or software, nor does he apply the finish himself or write the code, or even test the product beyond daily use...

Yes. It's all his fault. smh the absurdity of some blind people who think CEO does all and is responsible for all.
Lol but he makes the most money off all the good work they do. So he gets none of the blame for bad stuff they do?
 
No it happens because they make the iPhone in China which is a form of cost cutting to improve margins. Just like Touch Disease. The same company who makes Huawei's phones makes Apple's iPhones. But Tim's Apple only cares about profits hence they will continue to let it slide. In fact hissgate and bendgate happened because of manufacturing phons there.


I am scared about my 7 Plus now. Just took it out and so far so good. If this peels and Apple refuses to give me a replacement, the Apple-free household will be converting sooner than expected. This is unacceptable when the competition doesnt have any sort of defects whatsoever and are using fancier designs

Samsung denies people warranty coverage for pink hues on phones. HTC's quality control is crap. So I once had the M9. I did an Uh-Oh switch to a different carrier model (AT&T to T-Mobile). They sent me a refurbished phone with a gap between the phone chassis, the LCD panel, and internal parts. I sent it back, got two of the same devices. Wrote Jason Mackenzie on Twitter, got a brand new unsealed one sent to me and that was that. LG constantly has boot loops on their phones. Samsung's warranty process sucked for me with my old Note 2. Pretty much my point is most companies suck with their processes. Phones aren't meant to be durable and long lasting. Planned obsolescence is important to the industry. Apple just happens to perpetuate it more than others.
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You're not pointing out the obvious, the whole post is hyperbole. Starting with jobs, phones have been made a foxconn for many years and they are high quality devices. Low quality <> fact. Period.

There was no "bendgate". Because then every phone would have been affected and that clearly wasn't the case. All phones can be damaged by excess force applied to them.

Whatever about your iphone is anecdotal, and if you decide to be a apple-free household, it seems the universe will not really care. And if you think the competition has no "defects whatsoever" (except for "flamegate" which you forgot to mention--let's liberally hand out the "gates" here:rolleyes:) you should do what you think is right for you. (A fancier design, does not mean a "fancier phone" btw)

Then why did Apple switch to the 7000 series Aluminum? It's noticeable that the 5S/SE is the last quality designed iPhone. Bendgate was very real. Hissgate was as well. Let's not ignore how Apple has its flaws.
 
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Can you try taking a different photo on a plainer background and perhaps wipe down the phone from rest? The white specks that look like chips also seem to be on the background; when I tap on the photo it enlarges to show this. It also shows what appears to be a lot of dust or pocket lint embedded in the speaker holes and crevices. There is also a lot of scraping or small abrasive scratch marks at the bottom edge on the antenna line. It all combines to make your phone look abused rather than experiencing the spontaneous chipping that's going on. But that could just be the picture and other factors coming together to form the wrong impression.

What case do you have? My teen has a jet black iPhone in a Speck case that's rather stiff and hardsheeled. So in taking the case off and putting it on a few times I've scuffed it up a tiny bit with micro scratches on the antenna lines, similar to what I think I see on your iPhone.

The Dust and debris is an illusion of the flash on the speaker mesh. I had to use my iPad Pro to take the pics .

The phone is wiped down in these pics. the white specs on the black part of the phone are chips in the paint. the abrasions you see in my first post on the lip of the bottom of the phone are from pushing the phone into the case. They are mainly on the antenna band area which seems to be a rubber finish. The case is a ZVE wallet case, i attached a stock pic of it
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Samsung denies people warranty coverage for pink hues on phones. HTC's quality control is crap. So I once had the M9. I did an Uh-Oh switch to a different carrier model (AT&T to T-Mobile). They sent me a refurbished phone with a gap between the phone chassis, the LCD panel, and internal parts. I sent it back, got two of the same devices. Wrote Jason Mackenzie on Twitter, got a brand new unsealed one sent to me and that was that. LG constantly has boot loops on their phones. Samsung's warranty process sucked for me with my old Note 2. Pretty much my point is most companies suck with their processes. Phones aren't meant to be durable and long lasting. Planned obsolescence is important for the industry. Apple just happens to perpetuate it more than others.
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Then why did Apple switch to the 7000 series Aluminum? It's noticeable that the 5S/SE is the last quality designed iPhone. Bendgate was very real. Hissgate was as well. Let's not ignore how Apple has its flaws.
Apple is not perfect and every iteration of every phone improves on some aspect. (Like other companies) we can debate the quality designed phone, but it's not the 5s, imo...it's the 7.

Planned obsolescence is important but not like the hyperbole propagated by some here. It's an engineering cost trade-off for affordable products and Apple does not perpetuate it; which is why my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 is still in service.
 
I have a JB 7 plus, and I've got the same problem, so the issue isn't isolated to the Matt blacks. Mine's chipped alongside one of the bottom speaker holes- and mind you I've been babying mine since purchase. And it's always been in a case as well- and hasn't been in contact with keys or cards or whatever. Gotta say I'm slightly disappointed.
 
And we wonder why Apple began to refrain from providing a black phone for years...

Somebody has probably already said this but it isn't like they had more success when they introduced a white one. They should maybe try using colors that don't require an 8 million part process created by Ives.

I don't understand why a company like Apple is plagued with problems on something so simple like color?
 
I got a Jet Black 7 two weeks ago, hopefully this doesn't happen to mine.
It is a concern when you start seeing this happen and the whole pitting issue on some 6S phones.
 
Uh huh. Blame the guy who doesn't design the paint, or the hardware, or software, nor does he apply the finish himself or write the code, or even test the product beyond daily use...

Yes. It's all his fault. smh the absurdity of some blind people who think CEO does all and is responsible for all.

Yes, CEO are responsibles of whatever their companies does, sell, says, etc. They are the ultimate responsibles.
having this problems in a such a premium phone is shameful (again, iPhone 5...)
 
The Dust and debris is an illusion of the flash on the speaker mesh. I had to use my iPad Pro to take the pics .

The phone is wiped down in these pics. the white specs on the black part of the phone are chips in the paint. the abrasions you see in my first post on the lip of the bottom of the phone are from pushing the phone into the case. They are mainly on the antenna band area which seems to be a rubber finish. The case is a ZVE wallet case, i attached a stock pic of it
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Thanks for the new pics. It's hard to be sure because of the color difference but that does look like the odd surface pitting plaguing some Rose Gold (and maybe other colors?) iPhone 6S and 6S plus owners last year. It would seem there's another bad batch or few of iPhones that did not get properly anodized.

FWIW, the ones that are properly anodized seem to be holding up just fine. My husband is rougher on his phones than I am and so far his phone looks fine. So does mine, except for the hint of silver on the lightning connector rim and that was present from day one. I switch cases a lot and therefore worry about scuffing the phone doing that but it's held up so far. What is a bit worrying is that my current Urban Armor Gear rubbery cases leave honeycomb marks all over the back. These do not rub off with a dry cloth They have to be washed off with a wet paper towel. I don't know if that's a chemical reaction between materials or...what. I'm keeping an eye on it.

Still, I know from dropping a rose gold apple sport watch onto concrete last year that the coloring does not run very deep. If something is going to abrade the color off, on a black phone the contrast is going to make damage look so much worse than on a lighter color aluminum.

Our family knew that going into our color choices, but felt it was worth it to have the black bezels and see the antenna lines blended so well as to be almost indistinguishable. All of us were so tired of Space Grey.
 
Only had our 7 and 7 plus a month or so, but so far no chipping with cases on.
 
It peels off like Magic !

perhaps ship the matte black models with a matte black sharpie for touch ups !

lol
 
Not that I know of. I own a drop dead gorgeous HTC 10 in red. From reading other reviews and comments the dark colors of this model show scratches and the black variant in particular can look rough if not babied. People are complaining about the black Pixels looking a mess quickly too. Samsung flagships get complaints about the paint chipping off the home button. The list of phones and complaints goes on and on.
Thanks. That is why we will never get a replacement even with other manufactures.
 
Apple is not perfect and every iteration of every phone improves on some aspect. (Like other companies) we can debate the quality designed phone, but it's not the 5s, imo...it's the 7.

Planned obsolescence is important but not like the hyperbole propagated by some here. It's an engineering cost trade-off for affordable products and Apple does not perpetuate it; which is why my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 is still in service.
It wasn't improvement. They fixed a flaw where they tried to get one over the customers. Paint scratching inside a case when it's not even a new design screams low quality. You know those low end Android phones who start scratching if you so much as keep them on the table

Planned obsolescence is important? LOL
 
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