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Of course. If you are talking pure performance.

https://www.amazon.com/GT75-TITAN-4K-071-i9-8950HK-Notebook/dp/B07BXWN4NJ

Has a 4k display and a GTX 1080, more RAM at a faster speed.

Hahahaha.
Seriously that’s not competition.
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I called VISA for a credit line increase.

Haven't heard back.

They say Apple is crazy but then you know they'll sell these things like hot cakes. o_O
 
The SSD is what always makes these BTO prices look nuts. It's too bad they're still so expensive. I recently bought a Samsung T5 2TB external SSD for $700 for high speed RAW photo storage and it works great. I don't always need it plugged into my MBP but by having it hanging off the side I'm preparing myself for the life of dongles I'll be living on models newer than my 2015 MBP someday.

Well, you'll basically wind up using dongles (you do now anyway with your 2015) if you want backwards compatibility with the 2015 model, as going forward you'll just connect things right together using USB-C (HDD, eGPU, monitor, power, etc).
 
People can upgrade to 4TB SSD storage for "only" 3.200$.
 

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I can't figure out how to justify $2.5k increase in price for 3.5 TB of space. I mean, I can't really justify any configuration with my use case so it's all just a big mystery to me how these are priced.
 
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People can upgrade to 4TB SSD storage for "only" 3.200$.

Yes, that’s a good price for a 4tb drive. The 2tb option is $100 cheaper than Samsung ask for a 960 Pro too.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computin...state-drives/ssd-960-pro-m-2-2tb-mz-v6p2t0bw/
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I can't figure out how to justify $2.5k increase in price for 3.5 TB of space. I mean, I can't really justify any configuration with my use case so it's all just a big mystery to me how these are priced.

It’s just what the drives cost.
 
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I'm also shocked with the pricing on SSD drives. Why hasn't it come down in price yet?

How does everyone else manage their data?

Just my personal life has

Photo Library - 90 Gigs
Final Cut pro - 932 Gigs (holds all family videos)
iTunes - 7.69 TB (200 Gig is music)
Work files - 30 Gigs

Totalling up the above and just including the music portion of my iTunes I will immediately take up 1.3TB, so, the 2TB option doesn't give me much room to grow but I just can't justify the 4TB upgrade it feels criminal to pay that much.

I don't like the external drive route as its just a pain to plug it in every time if you wanna view family photos/videos etc.

  • iPhoto Library, on my machine, very little data, I pay for 2 terabytes in the cloud and use 1.3 terabytes just for photos
  • Final Cut Pro, Lives on my drive while I'm editing (never exceeds 500GB) then is archived to my 50 terabyte NAS in the basement
  • iTunes (and all consumable media), 15.42 terabytes again, all lives in the NAS downstairs
  • Work files 27.53 gigabytes but needs some organization, lives on my NAS downstairs and I have a menu bar application that keeps my 3 computers in sync and everything stored locally that I need, I use selective sync

With the amount of data you have, you really need to get a Synology, 8 drive, load up with 6/8TB Red Drives and go to town. Drop all cloud services unless you need to access your iCloud photos everywhere, drop apple music, heck drop Netflix, HBO, etc and just store everything you buy on your NAS.

I have a 3 terabyte iMac and 500GB MacBook Pro and each has less than 150GBs used locally unless I'm working on a video project then I get close to maximum usage.
 
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I laughed and closed tab when I saw the $2399 base model comes with a tiny 256GB SSD.

I just had the same shock discovery.

There’s f all you can do with 256gb! Once you take account of OS, there will prob only be enough space for a few pics.

I need a new laptop, as Apple has made my old one obsolete. Was waiting for this announcement.

They can go screw themselves at these prices.
 
I just had the same shock discovery.

There’s f all you can do with 256gb! Once you take account of OS, there will prob only be enough space for a few pics.

I need a new laptop, as Apple has made my old one obsolete. Was waiting for this announcement.

They can go screw themselves at these prices.

The OS takes around 6Gb, leaving 250Gb for those “few pics”.
 
Yeah, unfortunately I need a laptop for slightly more than just surfing the Internet.

250gb is minuscule..

I’d want to dual boot to windows for starters.

Well, fortunately they allow you to change the storage size, at reasonable prices for the technology.
 
So, I could get a car for the price of that.

Difference is, the car won’t be made obsolete and unusable in 4 or 5 years just because the manufacturer decides it wants me to buy a new one

Maybe not unusable, but borderline unaffordable. The BMW's have a 4 year/50,000 mile all items covered warranty for exactly that reason. After the warranty runs out those 8,000 mile service visits you were getting to free are on you for $700 each. As are wiper blades, brake and disk replacement ($1,750), turbos at $6,500 (I know these well). All to get you running into the dealer to upgrade to this year's model, with that 4 year warranty all items covered warranty.
 
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  • iPhoto Library, on my machine, very little data, I pay for 2 terabytes in the cloud and use 1.3 terabytes just for photos
  • Final Cut Pro, Lives on my drive while I'm editing (never exceeds 500GB) then is archived to my 50 terabyte NAS in the basement
  • iTunes (and all consumable media), 15.42 terabytes again, all lives in the NAS downstairs
  • Work files about 27.53 gigabytes but needs some organization, lives on my NAS downstairs and I have a menu bar application that keeps my 3 computers in sync and everything stored locally that I need, I use selective sync

Doing it similar. I only have 50GB of iCloud for 1 Buck a month as a copy of my most important photos but storing all other things on a 8 TB NAS. My permanent datas would fit on a 256GB SSD. For me there is absolutely no reason to pay THAT much for storage. A NAS (even a second one for external backup) is cheaper! :) My really important files and needed apps are maybe less than 50 GB. ;)
 
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The media (both blogs and places like Bloomberg) are picking up Apple's pitch that this is an overture to "true pros" justifying the high prices.

But when Apple was selling iBooks (the laptops, not the Kindle-like app), they were fairly similarly powered to their PowerBook brethren at much more competitive prices than what we're seeing here. Just to get 16 GB of RAM on the 13" model you're starting at $2,000.

The media slavishly copies whatever Apple tells them. They're basically printing Apple's press releases. Yes, these are faster (have they ever released slower models?), but they're not unique at all to Apple. PC manufacturers have been releasing computers with these chips for many months now.

I'm not sure how these are uniquely pro machines compared to the rest of the market. I think the 13" MBP would be much more compelling starting at $1299-1499 and would be in line with prices Apple used to offer for current state-of-the-art entry laptops.

Edit: If it's the touchbar elevating those prices, I'm not sure anyone would miss it for a $200-300 discount. (And I know there's the nTB, but I think people care more about the quad-core processor than the touchbar in their purchasing decision.)
 
Got it. Some people are into appearances. Others are into performance and flexibility; such as having four 40 Gbit/sec Thunderbolt 3 ports, each also being able to receive and source power.

Guess that puts me in the latter group. Though I've yet to need a docking station. Just a couple of inexpensive cables.

For use on the go, I'd much rather have that and the huge benefit of a more compact and lighter weight laptop.
The point I was attempting to get across was when there were multiple ports present such as Thunderbolt 2, USB 3 etc. the MacBook was 'more flexible'
Don't try and tell the vast majority of peripherals are not USB 3 because you know as well as I do they are hence the need for dongles owing to Apple's shortsightedness in not providing anything other than USB-C. And don't get me started on the Touch Bar and lack of MagSafe.
 
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The point I was attempting to get across was when there were multiple ports present such as Thunderbolt 2, USB 3 etc. the MacBook was 'more flexible'
Don't try and tell the vast majority of peripherals are not USB 3 because you know as well as I do they are hence the need for dongles owing to Apple's shortsightedness in not providing anything other than USB-C. And don't get me started on the Touch Bar and lack of MagSafe.

Why use an adapter (or dongle, if you’re still in high school) when a USB-C to USB-A 3.1 cable at $10 works great and is more robust?
 
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How much did you pay for your 4TB nVME SSD, 32GB DDR4, i9 4.8GHz 6 core laptop with 4 thunderbolt ports?

Is there even a laptop that powerful on Windows?

Thanks for insulting us.


Google is your friend...

Here are 5 6-core laptops with wildly better video cards than what this (ahem) MacBook Pro offers. GTX 1060 to GTX 1080s. So.....take your pick. o_O

https://windowsreport.com/best-6-core-gaming-laptops-can-get-2018/

You can get a 17" ASUS Rog G703 with a GTX 1080, an unlocked 6-core i9 CPU (hello overclocking), 64GB of RAM, with a 1.5T SSD + a 2TB drive - for $5,000.

That's a helluva a lot of computer for $1,700 less than the MacBook Pro with a 32GB of RAM and crappy GPU.
 
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No SD card slot... and I am not going to start carrying adapters and dongles.

Dongle. Singular.

You know, there are about a million USB C dongles that are more like hubs which include HDMI, SD card slot, USB 3.1, ethernet, and an additional USB C port for charging. They fit in the palm of your hand, and cost about $50. One of those dongles covers everything and anything you'd ever need.
 
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Such an amazing tool is a bit of an overstatement :D Well, first you would need camera dongles on top of that, then AppleCare to replace your keyboard one week later, then actually replace the keyboard when one letter gets stuck and so on.

...or you could buy a $2000 base model with a $1000 eGPU and get twice the effect for half the price

How the hell is an eGPU going to give you the extra processing power that most people would buy the higher end model for? And we're talking a 4 lbs. laptop here, an eGPU sacrifices portability. You're covered for a year without AppleCare, and one USB C dongle can support every single thing you'd ever need.

Killing me how people purposefully ignore technology as they attempt to prove they know it better.
 
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