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Dongle. Singular.

You know, there are about a million USB C dongles that are more like hubs which include HDMI, SD card slot, USB 3.1, ethernet, and an additional USB C port for charging. They fit in the palm of your hand, and cost about $50. One of those dongles covers everything and anything you'd ever need.
Well, I was more referring to the part where you said it was a mystery how these are priced. These are pretty standard prices for that level of hardware.



Is that a serious question. Who can afford six thousand dollars?
I, uh, never mentioned pricing. Just use case and justification of paying that much for that much space. Very different things.
 
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  • iPhoto Library, on my machine, very little data, I pay for 2 terabytes in the cloud and use 1.3 terabytes just for photos
  • Final Cut Pro, Lives on my drive while I'm editing (never exceeds 500GB) then is archived to my 50 terabyte NAS in the basement
  • iTunes (and all consumable media), 15.42 terabytes again, all lives in the NAS downstairs
  • Work files 27.53 gigabytes but needs some organization, lives on my NAS downstairs and I have a menu bar application that keeps my 3 computers in sync and everything stored locally that I need, I use selective sync
With the amount of data you have, you really need to get a Synology, 8 drive, load up with 6/8TB Red Drives and go to town. Drop all cloud services unless you need to access your iCloud photos everywhere, drop apple music, heck drop Netflix, HBO, etc and just store everything you buy on your NAS.

I have a 3 terabyte iMac and 500GB MacBook Pro and each has less than 150GBs used locally unless I'm working on a video project then I get close to maximum usage.


I use to have a time capsule drive connected via ethernet and then wirelessly accessible via my other computers but it was a slow experience but I'm sure its all come along way since then.

Are you saying with a synology NAS I could ditch all cloud services, even dropbox and keep all computers in sync with it? would Mac OS photos library live on the NAS and work with multiple computers i.e. a shared family photo library that my wife can access on her laptop?

is it also accessible if I was working away from home?

sorry for all the questions :)
 
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Hahahaha.
Seriously that’s not competition.
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This monstrosity weighs 10 lbs. And costs the same...with only 1 TB of storage. Ever wonder what msi's customer service would be like? This is just a purely naive comparison.
 
I, uh, never mentioned pricing. Just use case and justification of paying that much for that much space. Very different things.

We’re going off-topic so I’m ending here but this is part of your comment. It looks very much like you mentioned pricing.


I mean, I can't really justify any configuration with my use case so it's all just a big mystery to me how these are priced.

And I replied, in relation to the price.
 
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Well a big chunk of Apple users are regular people who got used to iOS and switched to the Mac for private use in the last 5 to 10 years. Like my wife and a lot of my friends. Casual and even power home users, just not pros. Those people were happy with Macs and I showed them that Macs were not cheap at first sight but if you take into account what you get Macs used to be the best of the best so actually they were worth the price.

Now my friends need new computers and its hard to tell them that a Mac is still the best computer on the market. My wife had to choose between a new MacBook pro for 2500 Euros and a Windows machine for 750 Euros with the same or better specs and went with Windows. Of course she will miss MacOS but it looks like Apple doesn't care anymore for those normal people. And Windows is not bad like it used to be. It took me some time to get used to her machine when I was helping her set it up but hey Windows 10 is not bad at all! And there is iCloud for Windows too! So lets see how it all works out, if everything is fine I will switch too when my Mac dies or doesn't get the latest OS.

You did not find a Windows machine for 750 Euros with the same or better specs than an MBP at 2500 Euros. If you think that, you do not know what specs you're looking at.
 
Yes there are actually. The Dell Precision 7530 (exact same processor, 32 GB DDR4 [faster ram], 4k display, 4 TB of nVME storage.)
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Dell's business Precision 5530, 7530, and 7730 all have 6 core options.

I just built a Precision 7530 on Dell's site, it did not have anything more than 2 TB of nVME storage per drive. You can add more than one drive, if that's what you're referring to, but that's not quite the same. Not that I think you're comparing the two otherwise, but it's also 50% heavier than an MBP.
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I read a meme about this and I though it was satire.
Holy Moly. US$ 7 k?.

$3000 of which is just for storage...and is the same price every competitor charges even for two separate 2 TB drives.
 
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How much did you pay for your 4TB nVME SSD, 32GB DDR4, i9 4.8GHz 6 core laptop with 4 thunderbolt ports?

Is there even a laptop that powerful on Windows?

Thanks for insulting us.
Let's just go ahead and clear this up.

Alienware 17: 17" screen (no 17" MBP anymore), i9 8950HK - overclock to 5.0GHz, 32GB faster 2666MHz DDR4 RAM, nVidia GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X w/ overclock, 512GB SSD, Bluetooth 5.0, ac wireless
***$3,274.99***

MacBook Pro 15" w/ i9 @4.8GHz, 32GB 2400 DDR4 RAM, Radeon Pro 560X with 4GB of GDDR5, 512GB SSD, Bluetooth 5.0, ac wireless
***$3,499***

Clearly a lesser machine for more money. Add the 4TB SSD to either machine and it's gonnna be an addtional $3,200.
 
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I will stick to a Razer Blade with a GTX 1080. Blows away this machine in gaming and the keyboard actually works.

Not only would most of the work I do melt the Razer Blade, it's a 1080p screen. There's a reason these have the Pro moniker, and it's not because they're for "Pro Gaming".
 
This monstrosity weighs 10 lbs. And costs the same...with only 1 TB of storage. Ever wonder what msi's customer service would be like? This is just a purely naive comparison.

Terrible comparison. The poster that made it is known to make things up and exaggerate.
 
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Let's just go ahead and clear this up.

Alienware 17: 17" screen (no 17" MBP anymore), i9 8950HK - overclock to 5.0GHz, 32GB faster 2666MHz DDR4 RAM, nVidia GTX 1080 8GB GDDRX w/ overclock, 512GB SSD, Bluetooth 5.0, ac wireless
***$3,274.99***

MacBook Pro 15" w/ i9 @4.8GHz, 32GB 2400 DDR4 RAM, Radeon Pro 560X with 4GB of GDDR5, 512GB SSD, Bluetooth 5.0, ac wireless
***$3,499***

Clearly a lesser machine for more money. Add the 4TB SSD to either machine and it's gonnna be an addtional $3,200.

If you think one machine is lesser when the prices are that close without even taking into account you're talking about a plastic monstrosity. It weighs 10 freaking lbs. Could you imagine pulling that out in a serious place of business? Ridiculous.
 
It boggles my mind why no PC manufacturer or Microsoft doesn't do a TV commercial entitled
"Apple Dongles vs. MS Plug n Play" or such things. There's a point where sexy thinness & simplicity make an item not practical. Apple is risking jumping the shark. The dongles alone could be funny props in a TV commercial.
It definitely sounds like an idea Steve Jobs would have if he wanted to ridicule Microsoft.

Microsoft won’t do it because:

1. They know they’ll eventually do the same thing.

2. They know dongles have always been the price of progress.

3. They’ll look foolish like Samsung... make fun of Apple for putting the headphone jack on the bottom and a year later do the same thing... doh!

4. MS is smarter than most people on this board... they know thinner, lighter, wireless, is the future of mobile devices.
 
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If you think one machine is lesser when the prices are that close without even taking into account you're talking about a plastic monstrosity. It weighs 10 freaking lbs. Could you imagine pulling that out in a serious place of business? Ridiculous.
The price isn't even close. $250 more for way less lmao
Let me guess, only your kind of business is serious business, right? If I pulled that out everyone would think it was awesome.
 
Microsoft won’t do it because:

1. They know they’ll eventually do the same thing.

2. They know dongles have always been the price of progress.

3. They’ll look foolish like Samsung... make fun of Apple for putting the headphone jack on the bottom and a year later do the same thing... doh!

4. MS is smarter than most people on this board... they know thinner, lighter, wireless, is the future of mobile devices.

Considering the number of MacBooks in use at MS and even their own peoples' love for Apple's hardware design, you'd be hard pressed to even find anyone that would see anything wrong here.
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The price isn't even close. $250 more for way less lmao
Let me guess, only your kind of business is serious business, right? If I pulled that out everyone would think it was awesome.

First off, I did the same thing building the alienware monstrosity but added the better chassis - it cost $3384. And no, $250 when you are comparing $3000+ priced laptops is neither much more nor much less. And when you are talking "way more", you're talking about gaming anyway...which is naive. I can't believe I even have to explain this to you, but I'm going to have to assume I do because you are still in high school. But here goes: These machines target the business world, the developer world, and the engineering technology world. Not your bedroom.

When Alienware crams that into a 4 lbs aluminum chassis that doesn't melt the table it's sitting on, they'll charge $5k for it.
 
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Let's just go ahead and clear this up.

Alienware 17: 17" screen (no 17" MBP anymore), i9 8950HK - overclock to 5.0GHz, 32GB faster 2666MHz DDR4 RAM, nVidia GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X w/ overclock, 512GB SSD, Bluetooth 5.0, ac wireless
***$3,274.99***

MacBook Pro 15" w/ i9 @4.8GHz, 32GB 2400 DDR4 RAM, Radeon Pro 560X with 4GB of GDDR5, 512GB SSD, Bluetooth 5.0, ac wireless
***$3,499***

Clearly a lesser machine for more money. Add the 4TB SSD to either machine and it's gonnna be an addtional $3,200.

It's not clearly a lesser machine. Because again, it depends on what you're using, and why you are using it. The alienware is heavier, ugly as sin, and not optimized for final cut pro or logic (because it can't run them unless you hackintosh). Hows the battery life too? And using windows? No thanks. Again, I'm a pro at my business, and while that MacBook pro is way more machine than I need, there are at least three aps that are vastly better for my business on a mac. So I'll stick with the OS. (in my use case I hope they update the air to have a retina screen, and I'll happily upgrade this winter.) I'm not the only one in this boat, and I know plenty of people that stick with Mac 0S for the same reason. So it's not a lesser machine. It's a different machine. How is that hard to understand?
 
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Considering the number of MacBooks in use at MS and even their own peoples' love for Apple's hardware design, you'd be hard pressed to even find anyone that would see anything wrong here.
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First off, I did the same thing building the alienware monstrosity but added the better chassis - it cost $3384. And no, $250 when you are comparing $3000+ priced laptops is neither much more and when you are talking "way more", you're talking about gaming...which is naive. I can't believe I even have to explain this to you, but I'm going to have to assume I do because you are still in high school. But here goes: These machines target the business world, the developer world, and the engineering technology world. Not your bedroom.
First off, I've been here 5 years longer than you. You're clearly extra butthurt today lol
I do plenty of work on my MacBook Pro and my Alienware PC, but tell me more about how you do this real world stuff. Oh wait, wrong thread. This thread is about how you added a still, even better feature to the Alienware 17, a 17" 2160p anti-glare screen, a feature I think a lot of people here desire for a Macbook Pro, and it came out to ~$100 more, and then you said those small price differences mean nothing. Ok. It's still a far better machine for the price. For. The. Price.

Edit: I don't know what you did, but it's still $50 less than the MacBook Pro w/ the better 4K screen lmao
 
First off, I've been here 5 years longer than you. You're clearly extra butthurt today lol
I do plenty of work on my MacBook Pro and my Alienware PC, but tell me more about how you do this real world stuff. Oh wait, wrong thread. This thread is about how you added a still, even better feature to the Alienware 17, a 17" 2160p anti-glare screen, a feature I think a lot of people here desire for a Macbook Pro, and it came out to ~$100 more, and then you said those small price differences mean nothing. Ok. It's still a far better machine for the price. For. The. Price.
You're ignoring what a bunch of people has said, like programs that are mac os only. So the price is only better if you define it for a use case that you've decided. I can think of a handful of professions that this update today is great for, and they would never dream of touching an alienware computer.
 
First off, I've been here 5 years longer than you. You're clearly extra butthurt today lol
I do plenty of work on my MacBook Pro and my Alienware PC, but tell me more about how you do this real world stuff. Oh wait, wrong thread. This thread is about how you added a still, even better feature to the Alienware 17, a 17" 2160p anti-glare screen, a feature I think a lot of people here desire for a Macbook Pro, and it came out to ~$100 more, and then you said those small price differences mean nothing. Ok. It's still a far better machine for the price. For. The. Price.

Wait, you think having been on a forum longer is an indicator of age? It is, in no way, a better machine - at any price. It's not even what any reasonable person would call portable. How you miss this with those 5 extra years of forum wisdom is beyond me.
 
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