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Well, fortunately they allow you to change the storage size, at reasonable prices for the technology.
That's the point - they don't charge a reasonable price for SSD (among other things). A 512GB is a $200 upgrade, 1TB is a $600 upgrade. For perspective, I ordered a 1TB SSD for a 2012 Macbook Pro for $200. Waste your money if you want to.
 
That's the point - they don't charge a reasonable price for SSD (among other things). A 512GB is a $200 upgrade, 1TB is a $600 upgrade. For perspective, I ordered a 1TB SSD for a 2012 Macbook Pro for $200. Waste your money if you want to.

You didn’t buy an equivalent spec SSD for $200. Even if you tried, you couldn’t have since the 2012 only had SATA.
 
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What does a 4TB SSD upgrade in a PC cost?
2090 to be exact. Oh wait I forgot it is also user installable without ruining the warranty.
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2090 to be exact
With 4GB of Video?
Are you ****in kidding me? :mad:
Eh sadly Apple doesn’t really focus on video ram because Apple knows there are no gamers that use them so for most of the easy tasks that these mechines get 4gb is fine.
 
I have been waiting soooooooooooooooooooo long for this. Will go nearly max specced except for 2TB SSD.
I dont mind saving on size and buying a hub for when Im using monitor/ethernet.
 
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You forgot to add the price for the dongles!!!!

For $6699 you can't download from an SD card, plug in a ethernet cable, connect to HDMI, connect any legacy hard drives, etc etc.





soo true, and sad!

its a true rip off, i9 is just around corner
 
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You forgot to add the price for the dongles!!!!

For $6699 you can't download from an SD card, plug in a ethernet cable, connect to HDMI, connect any legacy hard drives, etc etc.




And a dongle like that costs under a hundred dollars. You make it sound like it would inflate the total cost of the MacBook by 200% or something.
 
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I just had a look at the Apple AU website for the base price of a MacBook Pro. An eye watering $3500 for the base model.
And just look at what they are charging for adding a single stick of 16GB ram - a greedy $650.
Adding 256GB of SSD - $320 - another laugh.

I am glad that I didn't wait for Apple and replaced my broken MacBook Pro with a Dell.

So adding a decent amount of ram and SSD for a pro - an eyewatering $5100 and thats without maxing it out.
Out of interest, maxing out all the hardware options in AUD - $10k

Apple's price gouging is just plain greed.
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And a dongle like that costs under a hundred dollars. You make it sound like it would inflate the total cost of the MacBook by 200% or something.
You make it sound like Apple are giving the macbook away.
Would it cost Apple that much to give you a decent amount of ram and SSD without charging you $10k?
 
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Thats a lot for beta testing....LOL! Anyways, I won't look beyond 2013 MBP....Even the cheapest seems to be 3-4 times the cost of similar configuration in Windows. Anyways, Good Luck to Apple!
 
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What does a 4TB SSD upgrade in a PC cost?

If the drive uses old fashioned SATA-6000 interface, around $1,050 for a 4TB (Used to be closer to $1,500). You could do that in a Dell XPS since 2015. I've used these laptops - 500MB/second may sound slow, but IMO, you get almost all the benefits of Apple's 2GB/second drives - you can barely notice the difference. (But the difference from a spinning hard drive is extremely noticeable!)

The big choice not being offered to customers is this:
Is the difference you feel going from 500MB/s to 2,000MB/s worth $3,000 to you?

At the next Tier, if you got a Windows Laptop with NVMe drives, it would cost you about $2,000 for a 4TB drive (which admittedly I haven't seen offered yet) - that's about half what Apple charges, but again, the drive would run slower, closer to 1,000MB/sec. So again, the question here is "does the feel you get going from 1GB/s to 2 GB/s worth $2,000 to you?

Honestly, I really think Apple is mainly trying not to undercut their older models. Maybe when that inventory clears out they'll be willing to lower prices...

UPDATE: For a concrete comparison, the latest DELL XPS 15.6" has almost identical specs to the 2018 Macbook Pro: Same CPU, same 32GB DDR4, similar weight, a higher resolution screen, far more ports, etc, etc. Their model with a 1TB SSD costs $2,900. Could not find prices on their upgrades, or if they are using NVMe.
 
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You would if it was a productivity tool that would pay for itself many times over, which is the point.

If I was making money with my machines, I wouldn't buy one that could still have potential keyboard issues and may not have the internals that I need.

Tit for tat, man. I know the target audience.

I know that professionals who earn their money with these or other maxed out computers can pay them off no problem, were that me, I'd look at many options to get the job done.
 
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Person: WTF Apple! Update your Macbooks with higher specs and make them more customizable!
Same person: WTF Apple! This new fully spec-ed out laptop is expensive! .... o_O
 
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Person: WTF Apple! Update your Macbooks with higher specs and make them more customizable!
Same person: WTF Apple! This new fully spec-ed out laptop is expensive! .... o_O

I wonder how many of the original complainers never had any intention of purchasing a MacBook Pro in the first place.
 
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The thing is that this is called the "Pro" it comes with 1 port and heat constrained with flimsy keyboard. If it was the "Air" maybe.. but for a "Pro"...I dunno...
 
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The thing is that this is called the "Pro" it comes with 1 port and heat constrained with flimsy keyboard. If it was the "Air" maybe.. but for a "Pro"...I dunno...
The keyboard problem is definitely an issue I can understand - although my keyboard has not been an issue at all, there are way too many cases and that is a valid concern. The port thing - Apple is clearly trying to force a new era here. I personally prefer the direction they're going in. Is it premature? Maybe. There are ways to make it work. Just like with the removal of the headphone jack in the iPhone - I was initially very opposed to it, but once I switched to the 7 I have not looked back. I guess for Apple Pro doesn't mean multiple ports, it means performance.
 
soo true, and sad!

its a true rip off, i9 is just around corner

Why do you keep saying “i9 is just around the corner”? You can literally specify these with i9’s

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