Clearly you don't understand the technologies behind this.
LED is what lights the screen, LCD produces the colours/contrast. While the LED does punch the colours somewhat, it does not make it anymore of an accurate display.
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MBP is great! I don't understand the negativity!
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Clearly you don't understand the technologies behind this.
LED is what lights the screen, LCD produces the colours/contrast. While the LED does punch the colours somewhat, it does not make it anymore of an accurate display.
I'm surprised I haven't heard more about the DDR3 at almost twice the bus speed! That's a huge deal. Does anyone know if it will support up to 8GB of DDR3, or is still just 4?
i think i speak for a lot of people here when i say i would gladly pay reasonably more for the matte display, it is this notion of "get-over it" they expect that is frustrating...
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every designer i work with has a matt display
every photographer with a macbook pro has a matt version
you are spitting ******** about something you don't understand. you are not a pro, don't try to claim you understand the pro market.
Wrong. The Matt display was the default selection online for the MBP. A large majority of their sales would have included the matt screen. Few pro's use glossy. That's why today's announcement boggles the mind.
I suggest YOU stop making assumptions.
I am a businessman and experienced designer with design studios in the UK.
Don't tell me what can/can't be done on LCD's.
What would you do as an alternative then, try and find an old CRT?
You think you know what you are talking about in terms of colour reproduction and design/graphics.
You are talking to a pro here with many years experience.
yes it will support 8GB of DDR3, but there are many addressing problems so the computer won't be very responsive at all.. good way to show off though!
Not enough reason to upgrade!
I think that is the big reason so many people are disappointed. Many Apple faithful either upgrade regularly or hold on to working systems for years waiting for that ever elusive perfect system that will entice them to finally upgrade. Both groups of people have a lot to be disappointed in this announcement.
Not only are there several features that have been changed or removed but many of the items on our wish lists were ignored. (no hi-res LCD option on the 15in, no eSata, no FW400 or FW at all on MB, no matte option) Additionally, the current nVidia debacle has left a bitter taste in many a Mac user's mouth.
For many of us with fairly current MBP systems, this round of upgrades is simply not significant enough for us to consider upgrading. For those users who have PB or CD MBP perhaps a newly inexpensive 2.4 refurbis just the ticket.
The only bright side I see is the newly buffed MB. If I still had my original CD MB, I would upgrade immediately.
I think many existing Mac users will wait for the next laptop upgrade. However, many of my Windows toting co-workers really like the new systems; so perhaps we will see more converts this go round.
Cheers,
I think that is the big reason so many people are disappointed. Many Apple faithful either upgrade regularly or hold on to working systems for years waiting for that ever elusive perfect system that will entice them to finally upgrade. Both groups of people have a lot to be disappointed in this announcement.
Not only are there several features that have been changed or removed but many of the items on our wish lists were ignored. (no hi-res LCD option on the 15in, no eSata, no FW400 or FW at all on MB, no matte option) Additionally, the current nVidia debacle has left a bitter taste in many a Mac user's mouth.
For many of us with fairly current MBP systems, this round of upgrades is simply not significant enough for us to consider upgrading. For those users who have PB or CD MBP perhaps a newly inexpensive 2.4 refurbis just the ticket.
The only bright side I see is the newly buffed MB. If I still had my original CD MB, I would upgrade immediately.
I think many existing Mac users will wait for the next laptop upgrade. However, many of my Windows toting co-workers really like the new systems; so perhaps we will see more converts this go round.
Cheers,
Exactly, it's the fact that they had the option, and now they don't. A step backwards.
Hmmm.... either your some sort of tiny insect.... or your button has broken. Perhaps you should get it fixed? I can press mine with my pinky finger using a slight tap.
Ok... am I the only one who is aware that the trackpad IS a dedicated button? I have seen people complaining about this in a bunch of threads. The whole thing sinks down into the case when you press it. Its an awesome idea... you still have a physical button to press, but a larger area to do all the fancy multi touch stuff.
Thats not even relevant, were not talking about outdated technologies here.
The demand for matte screens is still there, I see it all around me in my career (and albeit less importantly in these forums)...
Are you sure you understand English, what i am saying is that no company would remove a feature from it's products that a majority used (save for Microsoft) if most people ordered matte than apple would have added the option, or taken away glossy ( if they did, we would be having the same debate with you vouching for glossy) they obviously did some research and found out they would make more money without the feature. And as a baseline user, i do not need my colors to be perfectly accurate so i will by the Macbook Pro, DDR3 RAM ftw!!!!!!! (btw matt is spelled matte)
disappointment is inevitable when youve got hype, rumors, and wild desires flying all over the place.
I think the new MBP is great, but there is one thing they really messed up on, the most important thing really: THE SCREEN. A computer could be the best in the world, but if it has a terrible screen then the whole user experience is ruined. I love the new MBP tech & spec-wise, but I simply can't use a glossy glass screen for the work I do.
9400M + 9600GT = Very powerful?
What world are you living in?
Obviously one caught in Steve Job's reality distortion field.
Everyone saying this is an amazing product with no flaws has obviously drank way too much Kool-Aid. Period.
As far as I am concerned people don't really do much editing on a small 15-inch screen anyway. That is why I believe that they kept 17inch model the same, and are still offering it with a matte screen. Usually a editor will use a large external high quality lcd anyways if they are truly a pro.
I for one love the new MBP. I think the use of glass on the front is awesome. Probably wiil be the most scratch resistant laptop screen ever too. Their idea with the dual graphics is amazing, although I think they maybe could of thrown the 9800m in there. Even though it would cut battery time down, we would still have the option of using the integrated and still have a monster machine. Heat was probably the main issue though.
I for one love the new MBP. I think the use of glass on the front is awesome. Probably wiil be the most scratch resistant laptop screen ever too. Their idea with the dual graphics is amazing, although I think they maybe could of thrown the 9800m in there. Even though it would cut battery time down, we would still have the option of using the integrated and still have a monster machine. Heat was probably the main issue though.
i think most people are agreed the 17 in has yet to be updated, it still has the 8600...
expect in a couple weeks most likely
Just wait till the next OS update, perhaps Snow Leopard. They will use SLI technology and run these babies in parallel and whoop most laptops in GPU performance. No Kool-Aid here, just some foresight. By the way you make it sound like the 9600GT is a piece of crap? What GPUs do most laptops come with that is so much superior to the 9400+9600GT?
Kan-O-Z
There aren't many. Many $2500+ laptops released recently (i.e. the last 2 months) by other manufacturers come with the same card.
Just more whining, really.
I am deeply disappointed by both the ancient technology and the incredibly high prices.
It's one thing if you're paying this much for something that has better specs than anything else out there. But paying this much for outdated technology is a big no-no.
Every single current Apple notebook model (the $999 Macbook included) is at least 1.5 times more expensive than a PC with identical hardware (if you need examples, I happy to provide them, or you could just look it up yourself). I would be one thing if these prices were so at the END of their product line. But these prices are 1.5x that of PC's at release.
It doesn't cost Apple any more for standard PC hardware than HP or anyone else.
Sorry, Apple, I"m not fooled.
It's one thing if you're paying this much for something that has better specs than anything else out there. But paying this much for outdated technology is a big no-no.
Every single current Apple notebook model (the $999 Macbook included) is at least 1.5 times more expensive than a PC with identical hardware (if you need examples, I happy to provide them, or you could just look it up yourself). I would be one thing if these prices were so at the END of their product line. But these prices are 1.5x that of PC's at release.
It doesn't cost Apple any more for standard PC hardware than HP or anyone else.
Sorry, Apple, I"m not fooled.
lol
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow man just wow.
Remember Core Image? Core Video?
That came out with Tiger..... nobody used it.... The only program that really ended up using it was Aperture. Final Cut Pro did not use it until Leopard was about to be unleashed.
Bottom line is that these technology leaps are great, but are useless until the hardware, OS, and software all play nice, and that takes years.
I bought a Powermac G5 and a Powerbook G4 brand new with the best graphics cards when Tiger came out thinking I could really take advantage the awesome GPU accelerated Core Image stuff.
The only program that I use that ever used it was Apple Motion.
Now years later I am working on a Mac Pro... and again Motion is the only program that I use that takes advantage of Core Image GPU Acceleration.