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That is probably precisely why they are waiting.

They already can't keep up with orders from people who want the black model. Why create more of a bum-rush that they can't serve?

This is just illogical. Sure there would be a few more people ordering...but I bet half the people that wanted white went ahead and got a black. Why officially announce two colors and just not put it up? They should at least say something.
 
I dont know about you, but it was damn hard to get a 3G or 3GS in my town for a month if not longer. I cannot wait any longer to get rid of my 3G. It's all speculation when the white comes out, AT&T has said a couple months, I've heard "later this summer" and with no word from Apple, I'm just taking that to be true. Apple wouldn't let out all these false rumors if it weren't true in my opinion. I'll just go wait in line early in the morning, and if they have the white, awesome i'll get it, if they dont, i'll be walking out with a sexy black one. The color doesn't matter to me but getting the phone does.
 
very true and was just using that set up purely for example purposes. Still if you have the whole plant making one color, which is the original color, you know that you can produce more and still sell out (which they did in one day).

Question. What do they do when all the people who wanted white, but bought black come back and trade in their black iphone for the white iphone (because its within their 30 day return policy)?

I'm aware of Six Sigma, but I'd really like to see the actual difference in number. It would seem like the actual difference in production #'s wouldn't really trump all the negative press Apple is currently getting for not having a White iPhone.

Also if that were the case, why would they tell us the White would be available at launch?
 
I agree... I know it's just a phone and I am waiting, but it is odd that Apple hasn't said anything. If they gave people a release date (for white) you would have less people ordering the black to trade in for white (not that THAT many people are doing that) and wouldn't have me on their site every day hoping to see "pre-order white" haha

Lol, I do the same thing every once in a while. I keep hoping that I will be one of the first ones to see it and I'll be able to pre-order with ease. :p Wishful thinking I guess.:eek:
 
It cant be the manufacturing delay...

I'm actually PRETTY SURE that's what the hold up is. If it were ready, it would have been available for pre-order yesterday.

If they weren't going to be releasing them around the launch window, Apple wouldn't have announced the phones being available. At the very least, they would have said "available later this summer".

Pure speculation, but I'm sure we'll see pre-orders of the white iPhones go on sale within the next 8 days.

Until then. Have a beer, watch some Dexter, and relax.
 
Apple doesn't answer to YOU. You answer to THEM.

Actually, I think the white iPhone is pretty much part of Apple's secret Dharma project to see just how much they can screw around with their fan base. Somewhere in an executive washroom in Cupertino, the AT&T CEO just paid Steve a dollar to pay off the bet.

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Only post on this thread worth reading...
 
Question. What do they do when all the people who wanted white, but bought black come back and trade in their black iphone for the white iphone (because its within their 30 day return policy)?

I'm aware of Six Sigma, but I'd really like to see the actual difference in number. It would seem like the actual difference in production #'s wouldn't really trump all the negative press Apple is currently getting for not having a White iPhone.

Also if that were the case, why would they tell us the White would be available at launch?


Don't think bad press is an issue, they still sold 600,000 in one day. And my guess is that the white will be available 31 days after the black. lol
 
Question. What do they do when all the people who wanted white, but bought black come back and trade in their black iphone for the white iphone (because its within their 30 day return policy)?

Charge them a restock fee and give their phones to the hoards demanding a perfect snowflake of a phone.

Or the white won't ship for 30 days.
 
White iPhone 4 the CERN LHC and what THEY don't want you to know

In physics CP symmetry predicts that the laws of physics should be the same if a particle were interchanges with its antiparticle. CP violation tries to explain how this symmetry can be violated. One of the great unsolved problems in physics is, if equal amounts of matter and antimatter were created in the Big Bang, why is the universe now almost entirely matter. Where did all the antimatter go? Understanding how CP symmetry could be violated would be a quantum leap in understanding why our universe is now predominantly matter.

We can extend the connection between 'missing' and the Big Bang to another mystery, this time in cosmology rather than physics. There simply is not observable matter in the universe to explain the formation of galaxies. In other words cosmologists believe that there must be 'missing' matter. In 1934 Fritz Zwicky postulates 'dark matter' to explain the universes missing mass.


Consider the following

10 Sept 2008 - CERN powers up the Large Hadron Collider. Two of the questions physicist hope to answer using the LHC are to explain the apparent violation of symmetry between matter and anti matter and to begin to understand the nature of dark matter.

30 March 2010 - CERN brings the colliding proton beams up to a combined 7 TeV, a new record for high energy collisions.

7 June 2010 - Steve Jobs announces the introduction of the iPhone 4. Black and white models are to be available for pre-order on 15 June with delivery on 24 June.

10 June 2010 - CERN announces that they have powered down the LHC for 'routine maintenance', six months ahead of when the maintenance had originally been scheduled.

15 June 2010 - No white iPhone 4's

Coincidence?
 
It's puzzling ...

What production problems would only affect a white iP4???

If the white ones crack, the black will too. If the screen bonding fails on one it will on both.

All I can think of is maybe lead in the white "paint"/coloring that black may not have, or perhaps the color came out wrong???


If there was a production issue with the white iphone ... as someone who just bought the black, I'd sure like to know what that was.

If it's something else altogether, what could it be?
 
I was bouncing back between wanting black and white, but decided on black on Monday night. However, Apple's silence in all of this is ridiculous. If you are having production problems, let us know. If there is another reason, let us know. Even if all you know is it will be out in July, let us know.
 
In physics CP symmetry predicts that the laws of physics should be the same if a particle were interchanges with its antiparticle. CP violation tries to explain how this symmetry can be violated. One of the great unsolved problems in physics is, if equal amounts of matter and antimatter were created in the Big Bang, why is the universe now almost entirely matter. Where did all the antimatter go? Understanding how CP symmetry could be violated would be a quantum leap in understanding why our universe is now predominantly matter.

We can extend the connection between 'missing' and the Big Bang to another mystery, this time in cosmology rather than physics. There simply is not observable matter in the universe to explain the formation of galaxies. In other words cosmologists believe that there must be 'missing' matter. In 1934 Fritz Zwicky postulates 'dark matter' to explain the universes missing mass.


Consider the following

10 Sept 2008 - CERN powers up the Large Hadron Collider. Two of the questions physicist hope to answer using the LHC are to explain the apparent violation of symmetry between matter and anti matter and to begin to understand the nature of dark matter.

30 March 2010 - CERN brings the colliding proton beams up to a combined 7 TeV, a new record for high energy collisions.

7 June 2010 - Steve Jobs announces the introduction of the iPhone 4. Black and white models are to be available for pre-order on 15 June with delivery on 24 June.

10 June 2010 - CERN announces that they have powered down the LHC for 'routine maintenance', six months ahead of when the maintenance had originally been scheduled.

15 June 2010 - No white iPhone 4's

Coincidence?

+1
 
In physics CP symmetry predicts that the laws of physics should be the same if a particle were interchanges with its antiparticle. CP violation tries to explain how this symmetry can be violated. One of the great unsolved problems in physics is, if equal amounts of matter and antimatter were created in the Big Bang, why is the universe now almost entirely matter. Where did all the antimatter go? Understanding how CP symmetry could be violated would be a quantum leap in understanding why our universe is now predominantly matter.

We can extend the connection between 'missing' and the Big Bang to another mystery, this time in cosmology rather than physics. There simply is not observable matter in the universe to explain the formation of galaxies. In other words cosmologists believe that there must be 'missing' matter. In 1934 Fritz Zwicky postulates 'dark matter' to explain the universes missing mass.


Consider the following

10 Sept 2008 - CERN powers up the Large Hadron Collider. Two of the questions physicist hope to answer using the LHC are to explain the apparent violation of symmetry between matter and anti matter and to begin to understand the nature of dark matter.

30 March 2010 - CERN brings the colliding proton beams up to a combined 7 TeV, a new record for high energy collisions.

7 June 2010 - Steve Jobs announces the introduction of the iPhone 4. Black and white models are to be available for pre-order on 15 June with delivery on 24 June.

10 June 2010 - CERN announces that they have powered down the LHC for 'routine maintenance', six months ahead of when the maintenance had originally been scheduled.

15 June 2010 - No white iPhone 4's

Coincidence?

Wow. You win +1 internets for that.
 
I think what happened was that Apple didn't want to rush produce the same quantity of white and black iphones. I think Apple realized, especially with ATT making so many people eligible for an upgrade, that the demand for this iphone was going to be very high. Black has always been the most popular color. So more than likely Apple decided to hold off on the release of the white iphone and just pre sale the black. Rather than have 300,000 black phones, and 300,000 white phones, and run the risk of not reaching that same 600,000 milestone, because the black phones would sell out first, and many people would not want to buy the white color.

Even though white is popular to some degree here on MR, it is less popular with the total number of people purchasing the iphone.
 
Yeah, but that still doesn't excuse them from keeping us in the dark as for the last minute call to have the white "unavailable." And if what you're saying is true, they could at least stagger it and give the white one a date of some kind, whether it be June, July, August, or later. This is what's so wrong about it.

I think what happened was that Apple didn't want to rush produce the same quantity of white and black iphones. I think Apple realized, especially with ATT making so many people eligible for an upgrade, that the demand for this iphone was going to be very high. Black has always been the most popular color. So more than likely Apple decided to hold off on the release of the white iphone and just pre sale the black. Rather than have 300,000 black phones, and 300,000 white phones, and run the risk of not reaching that same 600,000 milestone, because the black phones would sell out first, and many people would not want to buy the white color.

Even though white is popular to some degree here on MR, it is less popular with the total number of people purchasing the iphone.
 
Give us something to go on Apple! Something so I can make a decision

White iPhone release:

<2 months = I'll wait
>2 months = I'll get the black one
 
does anyone think that Apple stores e.g. UK flagship Regent Street will have white display units? have they in the past displayed items that are to be sold later?
 
White Consiracy Theory -- Verizon Exclusive

I'm neither into conspiracy theories nor do I really believe Verizon is getting the iPhone soon, but this forum needs something interesting to talk about besides "what day will my iPhone delivers by June 24" be delivered on if I said 100 Hail Marys, and danced a Mexican Hat Dance, an Irish Jig, the Hora, the Macarena, and the Hustle before I preordered?"

So AppleInsider and others are reporting via DigiTimes (not all that reliable IMHO) that Apple is ramping up a CDMA phone for China. Now naturally people think CDMA for China, not a big leap to make one for Verizon.

BUT what if the reason the white phone was pulled at the last minute was because Verizon's "price" for accepting Apple's 100% control condition was to get an exclusive on the white model? And that is why Apple is so mum on it and won't give a release date.

Discuss.
 
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