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Man I hope you're a fireman because it's coming!

LET THE FLAMING BEGIN!

Actually I heard they are giving away the phones, they are made of gold and gumdrops. The plans are 14 dollars a month, data voice and text unlimited. I can't wait to have it!
 
AT&T will mortgage every thing that they own to keep Apple exclusive. That is why I do not believe it will ever go to another carrier.
 
That we know of.......

I am sure it is planned (due to Verizon having a large part of the US market) but no just yet, (I think iPhone 5 will come to Verizon for sure). As long as Verizon still use CDMA for voice and Data the iPhone will not be on that network.

They are planning to have a pretty strong deployment for their LTE network for early summer next year (starting late this year with some limited markets), that would be the right time for the iPhone to show up in there on a brand new spanking network !

Okay, I'll change my post to there are thousands of friggin' threads asking this. :D /thread
 
AT&T will mortgage every thing that they own to keep Apple exclusive. That is why I do not believe it will ever go to another carrier.

LOL.

You know what would be awesome -- if Verizon did get the iPhone and offered a promo for existing AT&T customers called: "we'll pay your AT&T cancellation ETF fee if you come to Verizon."

Just watch.
 
Could a Verizon iPhone relieve AT&T network congestion?

With a lot of talk of a possible verizon iPhone, whether it would come by the end of the year or in 2011, I started to think about what this would mean for AT&T's network. I'm probably going to stay with AT&T because I paid the $599 to get the iPhone.

But if even a fraction of AT&T iPhone users jump to verizon, theoretically shouldn't that free up some space, meaning that people might start having less issues with data and dropped calls?

Plus AT&T has been installing towers and trying to improve their network.
 
The issue is would verizon take on some of AT&T's load and the simple answer is no, unless AT&T customers suddenly canceled their contracts with AT&T and went over to Verizon.

Given that all new iPhone 4 owners are now under the 325 ETF, its highly unlikely that will occur. More likely that apple would have more customers, i.e., new ones on verizon rather then just "switchers"
 
Not really. The smartphone market is growing for everyone right now.

So what it might mean is that AT&T "only" grows their smartphone users by 200% instead of 300%. (Made-up numbers)

So, ok, that slowed it down, sure. But will you see a difference because of it. Not really.
 
The issue is would verizon take on some of AT&T's load and the simple answer is no, unless AT&T customers suddenly canceled their contracts with AT&T and went over to Verizon.

Given that all new iPhone 4 owners are now under the 325 ETF, its highly unlikely that will occur. More likely that apple would have more customers, i.e., new ones on verizon rather then just "switchers"

Well you'll have people who got the 3GS having their contracts expire in 2011, right around when AT&T's exclusivity ends, so they might just jump then.
 
It's a large mix of factors.

I think there will be MINOR alleviation on AT&T's networks. Although the iPhone 4 locked people into contracts, the super majority of iPhones on AT&T's network are older iPhones, so they're probably not locked into contracts anymore.

Now, of that group of people OF COURSE some will switch. How many remains to be seen as AT&T may not have iPhone exclusivity, but they DO offer roll over minutes people won't want to lose and most importantly if you're on AT&T you probably have friends and family on that network as well and you'd lose your mobile to mobile minutes.

So there are other factors. But I do think that some people will switch. I'd hope it's enough to alleviate network pressure, but I think in the end the headache of switching will make more people stay than leave.
 
First, the iPhone 4 will not ad much extra load as less than 25% are new activations. The majority are existing customer upgrades on AT&T.

Second, iPhone user are the only ones that notice a slowing. I and several of my associates at work carry two AT&T phones. Our company BlackBerry, and our personal iPhones. Out of the 100 + BlackBerrys deployed, none of us have any problems with call quality, data slowdowns, or any other issues.
 
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Haha Verizon is dumb.

But they are smart too.

While they will never see the iPhone they can keep playing all the Droid Commodity phone makers against each other to maximize their own profits.

As a MacRumors Analyst, I would have said that Verizon would not have seen an iPhone before the 2Q of 2011.

Now I am saying there is no way Verizon sees a iPhone before 1Q 2012, if ever.

Like I said though, Verizon likes their barrel of droid monkey business model where they can just have these companies churn out commodity phones with a free os over and over again. It makes verizon money, so they certainly see no need to change, even if they do end up offering inferior handsets forever.
 
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