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It would be a shame if they didn't at least fix the heat issue mine is running like an oven. I'm sure they've had stacks of complaints of the heat they aren't just going to leave that until 07 are they?
 
viccles said:
It would be a shame if they didn't at least fix the heat issue mine is running like an oven. I'm sure they've had stacks of complaints of the heat they aren't just going to leave that until 07 are they?

It is just complaints, they are not legally obligated to look at them :eek:
 
generik said:
It is just complaints, they are not legally obligated to look at them :eek:

I know but they should fix it when I called Apple today to tell them about it I nearly burnt my hand on the underneath in the process! :eek: It is really something (if anything) they should address
 
appleintelrock said:
haha, good luck getting a merom the day it comes out. your looking at about 2 weeks, IF it comes out next week :)


I don't understand why people keep saying this. The C2D iMac's were released wednesday, as of now they're shipping within 24 hours... why would this be any different for MBP's?
 
What's 2 weeks after 2 months? At least I'll know rather than not knowing. *Grumbles*

appleintelrock said:
haha, good luck getting a merom the day it comes out. your looking at about 2 weeks, IF it comes out next week :)
 
mightymike107 said:
I don't understand why people keep saying this. The C2D iMac's were released wednesday, as of now they're shipping within 24 hours... why would this be any different for MBP's?

That's Apple's usual gig, and surely their reason for not having already announced a Merom MBP -- unless they're really not launching one til 2007, I guess. I'm still unconvinced on that tho', The Inquirer not exactly being a paragon of accuracy ... The Christmas market is coming soon, if nothing else.
 
jameshopkins said:
Apple is small fry compared with Dell/HP/Lenovo, they are priority customers.

I think you got that a bit wrong. Take Dell. They sell substantially more computers than Apple, but they make the big numbers by selling crappy Celeron processors; no money in that for Intel. At the high end (Core Duo and upwards) where the money is for Intel, Apple is most definitely not small fry. And of course Dell has blown it by going with Dell, so I would think that they did just slightly slide down on the priority list.
 
DNSTM said:
I'm sorry MattDell & BWhaler.

The Inquirer has extremely reliable sources at Intel.

The iMac's do not use Meroms but they use underclocked Conroes.
It's basically a drop-in upgrade with the old chipset but a new socket. A true mobile desktop hybrid.

If there is any truth to what the Inquirer is writing, then some very reliable sources at Intel will very soon be without a job.
 
gnasher729 said:
I think you got that a bit wrong. Take Dell. They sell substantially more computers than Apple, but they make the big numbers by selling crappy Celeron processors; no money in that for Intel. At the high end (Core Duo and upwards) where the money is for Intel, Apple is most definitely not small fry. And of course Dell has blown it by going with Dell, so I would think that they did just slightly slide down on the priority list.

Dell sells serious numbers of servers and laptops too.
 
Reaver said:
god I hope this is a freaking joke I guess we will see next week, cause that is my deadline for a notebook I got to have one next week so I hope apple doesnt let us down.

Because if you bought the current Macbook it would be useless for anything but a doorstop?

Getting the new Core 2 Duo in a Macbook isn't going to make it magic. It'll be a bit faster. Will you even notice the speed difference?

Anyway, it's quite possible that Apple will keep the Macbook on the current chips for the moment and just give the MBP the new chips. I'm not saying they will pass over the Macbook but it's not impossible.
 
Let me put this straight:

MacBook -> Yonah until 2007, maybe even after that
MacBook Pro -> Merom after next tuesday, most likely new case

Just wait and see.
 
nomad01 said:
Because if you bought the current Macbook it would be useless for anything but a doorstop?

Getting the new Core 2 Duo in a Macbook isn't going to make it magic. It'll be a bit faster. Will you even notice the speed difference?

Anyway, it's quite possible that Apple will keep the Macbook on the current chips for the moment and just give the MBP the new chips. I'm not saying they will pass over the Macbook but it's not impossible.

They will probably pass over the Macbook at its price point, just look at the EDU iMac for a comparison.
 
Hmmm

"iMeromBooks are a 2007 product" is it just me or does this guy still seem to think apple make iBooks?

The article reads like a kid trying to write a technical artile for the first time. It has absolutely no evidence except he seems to think hes dr dolittle. :p

Maybe I'm just pissed off cause I want my merom MBP! But I do think its rubbish, it seems highly unlikely that apple wont release it till next year or they'll start loosing switchers back to the pc world.
 
aly said:
"iMeromBooks are a 2007 product" is it just me or does this guy still seem to think apple make iBooks?

I decided to email the guy to find out just what an "iMeromBook" is:


dunc85 wrote:
What's an 'iMeromBook' when it's at home?
:-s


Charlie Demerjian wrote:
Clark Kent?


I guess that's meant to be some kind of joke :rolleyes:
I really wouldn't trust someone who can't defend their own article, and responds with a "joke"
 
nomad01 said:
Because if you bought the current Macbook it would be useless for anything but a doorstop?

Getting the new Core 2 Duo in a Macbook isn't going to make it magic. It'll be a bit faster. Will you even notice the speed difference?

Anyway, it's quite possible that Apple will keep the Macbook on the current chips for the moment and just give the MBP the new chips. I'm not saying they will pass over the Macbook but it's not impossible.

I just noted this thread here, new iMacs with core 2 duos encoding DVD with Handbrake at approximately same FPS as older core duo's. I don't think they are going to be much faster on 32 bit apps, advantage will be with 64 bit.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/231470/
 
there could be some truth to this rumor if they still have massive stocks of MBP's, judging by the numbers of people here waiting on the new one's this could well be the case. Also if they want to do a case re-design it could well wait until launching it in january. Think about what happens if they don't come out in the next weeks, many people are going to just say I'm tired of waiting and i'll just get the current model. They also might be waiting for the new chipset to launch it with that. What i'd really like to see is a low powered quad xeon laptop, maybe using the woodcrests on a slower FSB speed than on the Mac Pro, they could use the LV versions on a 800 or 1066 FSB rather than the 1333 Mhz of the full fat xeons. This laptop should blow everything else out the water in the pro market, much like the Mac Pro And I really hope they put nVidia cards in the thing ATI's are very bad for pro 3D.
 
nomad01 said:
Because if you bought the current Macbook it would be useless for anything but a doorstop?

Getting the new Core 2 Duo in a Macbook isn't going to make it magic. It'll be a bit faster. Will you even notice the speed difference?

Anyway, it's quite possible that Apple will keep the Macbook on the current chips for the moment and just give the MBP the new chips. I'm not saying they will pass over the Macbook but it's not impossible.

I think that, with Apple pushing 10.5 and its 64-bit compatability (at every level of the OS), they would want to get as much of the install base up to 64-bit as soon as they can. I'm sure they'll come up with some nifty improvements that utilize that architecture.
 
donbadman said:
there could be some truth to this rumor if they still have massive stocks of MBP's, judging by the numbers of people here waiting on the new one's this could well be the case. Also if they want to do a case re-design it could well wait until launching it in january. Think about what happens if they don't come out in the next weeks, many people are going to just say I'm tired of waiting and i'll just get the current model. They also might be waiting for the new chipset to launch it with that. What i'd really like to see is a low powered quad xeon laptop, maybe using the woodcrests on a slower FSB speed than on the Mac Pro, they could use the LV versions on a 800 or 1066 FSB rather than the 1333 Mhz of the full fat xeons. This laptop should blow everything else out the water in the pro market, much like the Mac Pro And I really hope they put nVidia cards in the thing ATI's are very bad for pro 3D.

Business-wise, it doesn't make sense.

Apple knows how fast it sells MBPs, and isn't going to build up a massive 3 or 4 month supply when they know that they'd need to upgrade to C2D.

Even if a case redesign could take that long, would Apple really damage its own sales by sitting on old processors for months? Besides, they pushed out a C2D 24'' iMac with no problem.


If Apple doesn't come out with C2D it's not going to be "I'm tired of waiting, I'll get the current model." I don't think that the market is going to keep buying, especially when they know that pretty much every other laptop manufacturer is using Merom and their new $2500 pro laptop is still on Yonah.
 
ZoomZoomZoom said:
Even if a case redesign could take that long, would Apple really damage its own sales by sitting on old processors for months? Besides, they pushed out a C2D 24'' iMac with no problem.

Adding Merom to the MBP is as simple as dropping in Merom chips and tweaking the firmware. Utterly trivial. They could do this as a stop-gap to a case redesign and the only risk there is annoying people who bought in the window between the Merom intro and the case intro. Given Apple do upgrades essentially without warning on a regular basis, I don't see that deterring them. Besides, I'd expect a case upgrade when Santa Rosa was ready, since that will need a redesign anyway...

ZoomZoomZoom said:
If Apple doesn't come out with C2D it's not going to be "I'm tired of waiting, I'll get the current model." I don't think that the market is going to keep buying, especially when they know that pretty much every other laptop manufacturer is using Merom and their new $2500 pro laptop is still on Yonah.

For some. For some it's a reason to go with Dell/HP/Lenovo instead. As I've said before, Apple already has the Comitted-to-OS-X market. It's the might-buy-Apple switcher market they're chasing now.
 
ergle2 said:
Adding Merom to the MBP is as simple as dropping in Merom chips and tweaking the firmware. Utterly trivial. They could do this as a stop-gap to a case redesign and the only risk there is annoying people who bought in the window between the Merom intro and the case intro. Given Apple do upgrades essentially without warning on a regular basis, I don't see that deterring them. Besides, I'd expect a case upgrade when Santa Rosa was ready, since that will need a redesign anyway...



For some. For some it's a reason to go with Dell/HP/Lenovo instead. As I've said before, Apple already has the Comitted-to-OS-X market. It's the might-buy-Apple switcher market they're chasing now.


Good points. Honestly I don't know how much of a difference the Merom processor will provide, but its a nice thought.
 
"syphilitic trickle of Meroms"

I've never seen the phrase "syphilitic trickle" used like that (or in any context for that matter). Maybe he could try using "gonorrheic impediment" as an alternative. :rolleyes:
 
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