If you believe ANYTHING Zuck has to say, you are deluded. If you believe he's doing ANYTHING for your good or the greater good, you're deluded. If you think the "Metaverse" he's attempting to create is going to do ANYTHING but generate advertising revenue, you're deluded. The Metaverse is going to be about advertising revenue, plain and simple. He's an old fashioned robber baron plutocrat with the one difference being that he traffics in ether, as opposed to coal, railroads or communications.
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Meta Is in a 'Very Deep, Philosophical Competition' With Apple Over the Metaverse, Says Mark Zuckerberg
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A bit of an overly cynical hot take, particularly the bit about using it to accumulate power. “True Believers” exist, people who sincerely believe in the causes they’re arguing for. There are even sincere believers at the head of some organizations.
Sometimes power is a means to an end instead of an end in and of itself. Some people sometimes aren’t motivated by power at all. Sometimes people stretch the truth ever so slightly to push others towards their goals, but it’s still largely true. I’m convinced that there are as many different motivations as individual people. Heck, money doesn’t inherently equal power; some people are more motivated by money/wealth than power (so they sacrifice the potential for more political power for more money), and conversely, some prefer power to money (and would sacrifice earning potential for more political power). And some people aren’t motivated by either and are motivated by completely different things (adrenaline, love, novelty, etc.).
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I agree. Life is a lot better and more peaceful without a Facebook account. You tend to get more productive with your time.
FB had been the only SM I use other than rarely Twitter to check status of some outage. But I don't engage with trolls anymore. I used to try to debate with people, but all they ever do is parrot the same thing over and over or insult people instead of addressing the thing being debated. I just looks at friends' stuff or read comments on stupid articles and laugh and occassionaly make a general comment.
Yet he's all over the place. I posted this on the other Meta thread, but good grief, he comes up with an idea, and expects people to pat him on the head and he gets millions. Wow...
So is he saying here that FB is a failure, or he is going to stretch FB to be a TT clone, or he's going to come up with yet another 'social sewer' he can play with. I don't trust him, and I don't trust humanity to not be distracted and participate in another society warping bad idea. His version of TikTok is not going to have a positive effect on the world.
So is he saying here that FB is a failure, or he is going to stretch FB to be a TT clone, or he's going to come up with yet another 'social sewer' he can play with. I don't trust him, and I don't trust humanity to not be distracted and participate in another society warping bad idea. His version of TikTok is not going to have a positive effect on the world.
Note that Zuckerberg's "really exciting thing" about the "metaverse" is getting a billion people into it so they can spend money.
What a visionary that Mark Zuckerberg is.
What a visionary that Mark Zuckerberg is.
So tired of hearing what I believe is the stupidest word I’ve never heard (metaverse). Get outside and interact with people and the world!
If Facebook went away tomorrow, the world would be a better place.
If Facebook went away tomorrow, the world would be a better place.
Really, the problem that Meta has is that they don't control their hardware. That means that they don't really have good knobs to control the power usage of their headset's components.
Apple, OTOH, can optimize its graphics chips and CPU as a whole unit, leading to better performance. The unified memory alone provides efficiency (which leads to improved power usage). But being able to adjust everything gives Apple a two-to-three generation advantage on the hardware side, even though Apple hasn't released hardware yet.
I mean, if Meta is using the standard BT and WiFi stack they're already losing. Qualcomm/broadcom's drivers generally suck in pretty much every measurable dimension; they're supposed to be 'baseline,' but very few people ever customize them. That alone probably chews 6-9% of the Quest battery right there.
Apple, OTOH, can optimize its graphics chips and CPU as a whole unit, leading to better performance. The unified memory alone provides efficiency (which leads to improved power usage). But being able to adjust everything gives Apple a two-to-three generation advantage on the hardware side, even though Apple hasn't released hardware yet.
I mean, if Meta is using the standard BT and WiFi stack they're already losing. Qualcomm/broadcom's drivers generally suck in pretty much every measurable dimension; they're supposed to be 'baseline,' but very few people ever customize them. That alone probably chews 6-9% of the Quest battery right there.
Thank you for the optimism. Jim Jones and his followers were true believers too. It's not terribly difficult to persuade a population to commit horrid crimes, or to purchase a product or service, or to donate their time to a cause, good or bad. Social media has simply become another platform by which to prosper with power, wealth, or charity. Unfortunately, the defining methodology of those three motivations are often blurred.
FB, IG, WA, Meta or whatever is long dead to me (accounts canceled, 'Facebook Family of Companies' blocklist added to my Pi-Hole, etc.). That's not to say that I'm interested (beyond the media / fanboy spectacle) of Apple (or anyone else's) AR/VR efforts. Less screens, not more screens. Less nausea, not more nausea. Please.
Not trying to defend FaceBook, but I will say that I love my Oculus Rift. Things like virtual meeting rooms are a lifesaver when you’re trying to run a website with people who live on the other side of the country.
The point of VR the way I see it is to put you in another world to do things that aren’t possible in this one, like meeting with people who are miles and miles away, not to replace your current world. That’s where Meta is going wrong. You don’t want to visit a virtual store when you could just go to the real one. Things like Beat Saber or YouTube VR, however, that allow you to do things/visit places you couldn’t in real life, are where the real appeal of VR lies. I think Apple understands this.
The point of VR the way I see it is to put you in another world to do things that aren’t possible in this one, like meeting with people who are miles and miles away, not to replace your current world. That’s where Meta is going wrong. You don’t want to visit a virtual store when you could just go to the real one. Things like Beat Saber or YouTube VR, however, that allow you to do things/visit places you couldn’t in real life, are where the real appeal of VR lies. I think Apple understands this.
All of this stuff cannot be clearly and concisely explained. Those are the ingredients of a scam. None of this stuff is for as I will continue to live in the real world, speaking to humans in person (or phone or FaceTime), and purchasing real items.
Mark is upset that Apple makes better chips than the one in his head.
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I think Facebook is in competition with Facebook.
At this point, Zuckerberg reminds me of the Bruce Campbell cameo in the latest "Doctor Strange" -- the guy who can't help punching himself in the face.
This can be true because FB and Zuckerborg had nothing to do with it.
It’s exactly that, just like NFT’s. I’ve been an artist my whole life and have no interest to try and make money off of digital art. It’s just another way for someone else to make money off your hard work, by charging for you to use their services.
I’ve never understood the appeal of VR meeting rooms over conventional video. Granted, conventional video doesn’t exactly do a great job of allowing for eye contact, but then again, VR isn’t quite real eye contact, either. Plus, you don’t need a real 3D space to move around in, you can just do it from your desk or phone. And I think there’s more to be gained from actually seeing the person and their body language cues than there is from seeing a cartoon-y avatar in a 3D space.
Maybe in some things there’s value to VR meetings, but it feels a bit like overly skewmorphic GUIs in most situations. And honestly, I fear that VR meetings are gonna get used for the sorts of lame mark-everyone-as-“required”-even-if-there’s-no-good-reason-for-them-to-be-there meetings. If video isn’t required for them and we’re on mute, I usually prefer the ability to do other things. Not really an option when you have a VR headset on your head and people can “see” your avatar in the room.
So you mean Facebook's metaverse is going to be a hot mess filled with advertising, propaganda, viruses, and psychological manipulation and Apple's won't be?
