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Oh geeech.... here we go again... more antenna spew.

If they modify it to get rid of the "death grip" good. No big deal. The phone works fine now except for the Proximity Sensor issue. I wish they would fix this sooner than any antenna change.... it's the only real issue I have with my iPhone4.
 
If you have a "defective" product, why didn't you simply return it?

u make it sound so simple. ive tried to "return" it to get a replacement and all they said was "hmmm maybe use it for a bit longer and see if the error remains" ... "hmmm its a known issue and u can use a bumper" ... "hmmm a replacement won't help cuz all iPhones have this issue in certain areas" (after that bi'''' said theres no issue o_O)
 
I'm still trying...

Got my iPhone 4 on release and i'm still trying to drop a call or even lose a little signal this is way media hyped time to get over it people,

Love my iPhone 4
Thanks Steve :D
 
All they need to do is apply a clear polymer coating to the antenna. In fact, they could/should offer this to existing iPhone 4 owners if they bring it in to their retail stores. Call it the iSpray.
 
iPhone4S - more memory to go along with the new antenna

If anything - they will market the iPhone4S as being improved in other ways other than just the antenna to avoid legal and return issues. I predict that if this is true it will come as only a 64GB model. That will allow them to avoid the trade in disaster of people wanting to swap out their 16GB and 32GB phones. It will be an upgrade that AT&T might be willing to allow an upgrade with now ETF as the only option...but not a refund or exchange.

That being said...if this were true...and that is a big if - then I would love to see them introduce a 64GB iPhone4S that had a larger retina screen.

But I realize I am dreaming now. A bigger screen is not likely to happen until the iPhone4G is launched next summer.
 
u make it sound so simple. ive tried to "return" it to get a replacement and all they said was "hmmm maybe use it for a bit longer and see if the error remains" ... "hmmm its a known issue and u can use a bumper" ... "hmmm a replacement won't help cuz all iPhones have this issue in certain areas" (after that bi'''' said theres no issue o_O)

I wanted someone to bring this up as well. After reading the guy that returned his iPhone 7 times, which he made it sound like it was so easy, I was wondering if I could return mine. I have the antenna issue and the proximity sensor issue and I feel if I were to go to the Apple store, they would just say something to push me out the door without really helping me.
 
Interesting story about the alleged "silent recall".If true I hope I get one of the "fixed" ones(ships in two weeks).
 
Apple will not release a modified iPhone 4. Why? Because all the buzz has died down and the iPhone 4 is still selling like hotcakes. A hardware revision would bring all that negative press back again and undoubtedly ignite a slew of class action lawsuits against Apple for selling a "defective" product. After all, they told everyone that fewer than 1% of their customers were experiencing issues. Those kind of numbers do not justify a hardware modification, which would be tantamount to an admission of guilt on Apple's part.

No hardware modification coming. It makes absolutely no business sense. An accelerated iPhone 5 schedule, however, makes much more sense and I wouldn't be surprised to see an iPhone 5 "world phone" in January integrating CDMA and GSM technologies into a single unit. This would allow Apple to re-design the antenna, perhaps putting it back inside the case, and the integration of GSM and CDMA chipsets/antennas may give Apple a much needed reason for why the iPhone 5 will not be as thin as the iPhone 4. All of the ingredients are coming together quite nicely for an iPhone 5 launch early next year.


You make a good argument. And either this happens or a tweaked iPhone4S comes out with more memory to make it a slightly different model to avoid the exchange problem...like adding a 64GB model as I proposed above.

That said - I would still hold off until this winter just in case they do accelerate the iPhone5 (or iPhone4G as I predict it will be called) when they introduce a slightly larger screened 4G world phone with more memory - while still selling the current iPhone4 as the entry level phone.
 
If you bought a product and it was defective you should have returned it. If you didn't then the phone is obviously fit your purpose and you're happy with it. So the answer would be "no".

I have no issues with dropped calls, 'antennagate' or proximity sensor issues. So I'm not gonna be pissed if they issue a fix for new iPhones.

I certainly won't be returning my perfect iPhone for one that might have a problem just because some Mexican carrier claims there's a hardware revision :rolleyes:.

If people are considering that and you have 'defective' iPhones. Why are you keeping hold of a defective product?

It is fit for purpose WITH a case. Am I happy with the iPhone 4? Yes I am extremely happy with the phone but it drops calls WITHOUT a case.

Two reasons why I haven't returned it are because I am a very busy man and the nearest store is an hour away.

There is no issue with a case so for the time being I am going to keep the case on. If they do revise the hardware I will get an exchange for the newer model which doesn't drop calls and use the phone without a case.

Why should a guy who paid £600 for his iPhone get a defective one and another guy who paid £600 for his iPhone a few weeks later get a non defective one?
 
Wasn't it obvious? Why would Apple set a deadline on the "iPhone case program" for September 30th if the problem would remain after that?

I predict that they'll add a coating to the antenna to reduce conductivity and replicate having a case on.

I've been holding off until September 30th to get an iPhone waiting to see Apple's next move.

I agree. This would be the smartest move for Apple and would have the least negative impact on customers who already purchased iPhone 4s.
 
I did not say there is an antenna issue. I said Apple needs to fix antenna issue. Technically it may not be there but in most people's eyes, there is a flaw and because of this a lot of people do not buy the new iPhone 4!

Using your own claims above, how do you fix an issue that doesn't exist?
 
Here is the best solution

Once a month, return and buy a new iPhone 4 until they fix the antenna problem. No questions asked and no fees and you keep a new phone until they get the solution.

I returned the first iPhone as I bought it at AT&T and Apple was giving me crap with the warranty and kept sending me to AT&T to fix issues. At AT&T they kept telling me to call Apple Car. I got so mad I just returned the phone and put back my old iPhone 3G... that phone was so slow after the IOS4 upgrade I just went to buy the iPhone 4 again but at the Apple store. I ended up with two free cases at least.

:D
 
You know.....

None of this would really even matter either way if we just held the phone the "right" way....:D
 
Using your own claims above, how do you fix an issue that doesn't exist?

The word is out; ANTENNA HAS AN ISSUE. That's enough. Done. Apple is in trouble with the iPhone4. They MUST do something. A lot people are NOT buying the iPhone4 because of this, I am not buying. I know at least 6 people that are not buying. Isn't enough?

Why do you think they are coming with a new design/phone? Because they know there is a problem or not, this thing is stuck to them.
 
Omg come on!! This is NOTTTTT happening. Apple would have pulled the iP4 long ago if it ever considered a hardware change. There are no issues with iP4. I get much better reception than I did with 3GS.

:rolleyes:
Some people are TRULY in deep denial since even their lord and savior Jobs outright admitted the problem exists during his conference.
(And a one time free bumper which will wear-out in a year is not a long term solution.)
 
Apple will not release a modified iPhone 4. Why? Because all the buzz has died down and the iPhone 4 is still selling like hotcakes. A hardware revision would bring all that negative press back again and undoubtedly ignite a slew of class action lawsuits against Apple for selling a "defective" product. After all, they told everyone that fewer than 1% of their customers were experiencing issues. Those kind of numbers do not justify a hardware modification, which would be tantamount to an admission of guilt on Apple's part.

No hardware modification coming. It makes absolutely no business sense. An accelerated iPhone 5 schedule, however, makes much more sense and I wouldn't be surprised to see an iPhone 5 "world phone" in January integrating CDMA and GSM technologies into a single unit. This would allow Apple to re-design the antenna, perhaps putting it back inside the case, and the integration of GSM and CDMA chipsets/antennas may give Apple a much needed reason for why the iPhone 5 will not be as thin as the iPhone 4. All of the ingredients are coming together quite nicely for an iPhone 5 launch early next year.

Hi,

I disagree. Companies do silent changes mid-stream all the time. Look at any instruction manual for an appliance and it will say something to the effect of "may not be exactly as illustrated" or "we reserve the right to make changes..." A tweak to the iPhone 4 does not have to mean a cosmetic change. The iPhone 16GB does not look any different to the 32GB, but it is still different.
I know of a large automobile company had a significant issue with an AWD model of their car that was addressed after 7 months of the defective model being manufactured. The company didn't change anything visible on the car, but under the hood were tweaks that made the AWD system work properly.

It happens all the time.

s.
 
:rolleyes:
Some people are TRULY in deep denial since even their lord and savior Jobs outright admitted the problem exists during his conference.
(And a one time free bumper which will wear-out in a year is not a long term solution.)

And who cares if the bumper wears out anyway..usually people upgrade their phones every 2 years or less (it seems like less.) In addition, bumpers are cheap in comparison......
 
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