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Microsoft and Adobe Executives Meet to Discuss Apple, Possible Merger
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Maybe he finds that complicated?
Windows Phone 7 looks promising, but the mobile space will be divided for a while with iOS, Android and other players.
the two biggest bloatware companies IN THE WORLD... can you imagine the sheer SIZE of MS CS6?
"new microsoft cs6... now only available on blueray disks!"
Did you know that Final Cut Studio 2 shipped on 9 DVDs?
I'd bet that a lot of users would prefer 2 BD discs....
FCS 3 might be only 8 DVDs - but I didn't see any place on Apple.com where it listed the kit contents. (...and they seem to be hiding the version number - it's just FCS now)
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)
Balmy's just mad cause he didn't get his full bonus.
Balmy's just mad cause he didn't get his full bonus.
I can just imagine how much arse kissing, Ballmer did.
Not that it would've been necessary, I expect Adobe was up for accepting whatever ideas they had to offer. No one else is offering them any
Not that it would've been necessary, I expect Adobe was up for accepting whatever ideas they had to offer. No one else is offering them any
At least when Microsoft releases problematic software, they eventually fix the problems. Adobe, on the other hand, never fixes the problems. Flash has always made Macs slow down while CPU fans spin like crazy, and Adobe has done nothing significant to solve that problem.
Criticize Microsoft all you want, but they are nowhere as lazy and aloof as Adobe.
Time to make another movie "Pirate of Silicon 2" story during 2000's, then "Pirate of Silicon 3" story during 2010's
Thanks for insulting me.
At work I use Office. I don't have a choice.
At home I use iWork. I do have a choice and I'm not an idiot.
It works great for my limited home use.
you thought the mac upgrades were slow before...
So, wondering what all the folks who were turning against Steve on the Flash issue are thinking now? I am so over Adobe...
clueless and clueless-er.
So, wondering what all the folks who were turning against Steve on the Flash issue are thinking now? I am so over Adobe...
clueless and clueless-er.
I agree, and it is quite funny to hear people shout that Adobe is a relic, a dying company, etc. I do professional web design for a living and there simply is nothing that compares to either Photoshop or Fireworks for web design.The professional workflow and productivity provided by Adobe's applications is simply unparalleled and they very much dominate the market because of that.
That said, I would actually hate it if Microsoft bought Adobe, and I am not much of a fan of Apple buying them either. What Adobe needs is competition, good alternatives targeting their products and forcing them to compete and put out better products (which they don't have to do now). They don't need to be bought by anyone, I think that would be a bad thing actually.
Wow well thats one way to kill Flash once and for all...tie it to another dead platform and let it flounder. And why would this alliance work, when Maemo (as supported by Intel) is just around the corner touting Linux+Flash10 as a "true" answer to the iPhone? Maybe they are spooked by HP+WebOs?
Microsoft should ditch Balmer and go the way of Sega and concentrate on innovative new cross-platform software products and either stop fiddling around with hardware, or finally build a true gaming (Xbox) phone, no more half-assed crap (Really, Halo STATS are the main selling point on WP-7 2010? You don't have any kind of working mobile port of Halo, the reason most people BOUGHT your only other successful hardware product?!! Not even an official 2D sidescroller or tower defense?? And hardware wise, Kin or Zune anyone? Combine Kin+Zune+Xbox+Office with PSN style cross-platform (i.e. buy-once, play on both) app distribution and you'd have a true iPhone competitor and kill the PSP once and for all.)
Too bad if they do buy Adobe, though, Premiere and Photoshop are pretty essential to a lot of Mac-based workflows, I'd hate to see it go the way of Bungie/Halo. I suppose it would be like when Apple bought out Logic.
Microsoft should ditch Balmer and go the way of Sega and concentrate on innovative new cross-platform software products and either stop fiddling around with hardware, or finally build a true gaming (Xbox) phone, no more half-assed crap (Really, Halo STATS are the main selling point on WP-7 2010? You don't have any kind of working mobile port of Halo, the reason most people BOUGHT your only other successful hardware product?!! Not even an official 2D sidescroller or tower defense?? And hardware wise, Kin or Zune anyone? Combine Kin+Zune+Xbox+Office with PSN style cross-platform (i.e. buy-once, play on both) app distribution and you'd have a true iPhone competitor and kill the PSP once and for all.)
Too bad if they do buy Adobe, though, Premiere and Photoshop are pretty essential to a lot of Mac-based workflows, I'd hate to see it go the way of Bungie/Halo. I suppose it would be like when Apple bought out Logic.
I think the difference is, Apple is much more profitable than ever and Microsoft is scrambling to innovate at all. I don't want to start a CEO flame-war, though.
That would actually be quite a catchy (haha) name for a phone: "Microbe, the social networking phone -share it!"
Yes, let MS to buy Adobe and stop development for Mac... it might be the best thing MS could do... I explain:
Apple will finally release the equivalent of CS5 (a Graphic Suite) they did developed for several months now... and it will works the same way as the other suites and applications:
- iPhoto for Beginners (Family), Aperture for Pros
- iMovie for Beginners, Final Cut Pro for Pros
- Garage Band for Beginners, Logic Studio for Pros
- iWeb for Beginners .... nothing for Pros?
Apple will finally release tools to actually easily create HTML5 content and webpage and we won't have to deal with this Adobe BS!
Being a major actors in HTML5, there's no doubt Apple will release a Graphic Design Pro Suite to drive people to buy that instead of Adobe CS5/CS6 (that contains direct concurrents such LightRoom, Audition, Premiere, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc...)
It could be another $499-999 from the Apple fanboys and the Pros users. The Graphic Suite would be used for designing graphics (for both iTunes LP, e-book, webpage, etc...) but to publish it online from the app (pushing on MobileMe, iTunes and iBook Stores directly).
Personally, I wouldn't have any trouble to drop CS5 in profit of something faster, better and more stable.... made and designed for OS X/iOS with a practical workflow, the same way I dropped few time ago Office for iWork (even though iWork is still not as complete than Office).
I'm not a Pro-Apple, but I clearly hate Adobe as much I hate MS
Apple will finally release the equivalent of CS5 (a Graphic Suite) they did developed for several months now... and it will works the same way as the other suites and applications:
- iPhoto for Beginners (Family), Aperture for Pros
- iMovie for Beginners, Final Cut Pro for Pros
- Garage Band for Beginners, Logic Studio for Pros
- iWeb for Beginners .... nothing for Pros?
Apple will finally release tools to actually easily create HTML5 content and webpage and we won't have to deal with this Adobe BS!
Being a major actors in HTML5, there's no doubt Apple will release a Graphic Design Pro Suite to drive people to buy that instead of Adobe CS5/CS6 (that contains direct concurrents such LightRoom, Audition, Premiere, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc...)
It could be another $499-999 from the Apple fanboys and the Pros users. The Graphic Suite would be used for designing graphics (for both iTunes LP, e-book, webpage, etc...) but to publish it online from the app (pushing on MobileMe, iTunes and iBook Stores directly).
Personally, I wouldn't have any trouble to drop CS5 in profit of something faster, better and more stable.... made and designed for OS X/iOS with a practical workflow, the same way I dropped few time ago Office for iWork (even though iWork is still not as complete than Office).
I'm not a Pro-Apple, but I clearly hate Adobe as much I hate MS
So it'll be idiot and creativity proof? I kid, I kid. But seriously, it would be much better for professionals if there were multiple options and companies competing on mac, and not just Logic or FCP. Some people's workflow works better in Cubase or Live, you know?
I was referring only to their web presence. Obviously neither Hulu or Netflix would work on iOS if they HAD to use Flash or Silverlight. The difference is the iOS environments are controlled and do not easily allow for the illegal dissemination of copyrighted material whereas the web, that is the web as accessed by your desktop or laptop, is a free for all and artificial controls, like Flash and Silverlight, are needed to protect valued content.
Yes because I am indeed talking about the the entire companies markets and not keeping in context to the topic of "mobile space".
Although, I think the apps themselves are still pretty lean (>300MB)? Most of the Dvd space is content, not bloated apps (Music loops, backgrounds, Livefonts, etc.)