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Microsoft and Adobe Executives Meet to Discuss Apple, Possible Merger
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Heavy rumor with a loaded gun.
Hmm. I don't think this will get approval for the less obvious reasons:
* Full control over the digital creative market or over 85% of it: Flash, dreamweaver & the full photoshop suite ALL could go to 1 platform = Windows!!
* Merger like this could ALSO hurt Flash development on Android in the future as Flash progresses (performance, features, less security issues like those this past summer).
^ this is the kind of moves executives make JUST to cause shock & awe amongst users so that the industry and investors vote crazily on stock with their dollars.
Hmm. I don't think this will get approval for the less obvious reasons:
* Full control over the digital creative market or over 85% of it: Flash, dreamweaver & the full photoshop suite ALL could go to 1 platform = Windows!!
* Merger like this could ALSO hurt Flash development on Android in the future as Flash progresses (performance, features, less security issues like those this past summer).
^ this is the kind of moves executives make JUST to cause shock & awe amongst users so that the industry and investors vote crazily on stock with their dollars.
LMAO! Funny how things turn out n'est-pas?
I'd like to see a remake of that Apple vs Microsoft movie in the modern world ... complete with re-enactment of NeXT footage Technet footage Gates retirement, Balmers Monkey-Dance and bafoonity along with Googles rise into the smartphone race and Apple's defiance and gusto into the tablet age.
It's true, best one I can find was from a blogger.
"About half of Adobes revenue comes from Mac users who feel taxed to death by frequent and expensive Adobe Creative Suite updates, many of which feel foreign, are crash prone, and full of bugs that take forever to get fixed. Creative Suite 5 is waiting at the door," Bambi Brannan writes for Mac360. "Are there competent alternatives?" http://bit.ly/caq161
The horses mouth from a gigaom article, dated 2007. Stating the same numbers as 2004. But odd too - bold.
were 77% Windows and 23% Mac. In some markets, such as the creative professional space, the Macintosh percentage is even higher. The Macintosh market is huge for Adobe and, by most estimates, were the largest supplier of Mac software on the planet.
In that forum Michael writes,
Yes, this is very much the case. Actually the numbers I have seen when comparing the premium (ie Creative Suite and Photoshop level applications) level of apps, the numbers are actually more around 60% Macintosh and 40% Windows. The number of PURCHASED copies of Photoshop on the Mac side are more than on the Windows side. This makes sense, because many high-end development houses run exclusively on Macintosh. This trend is only strengthening lately, not weakening.
So, no matter how you split the numbers 60%, 20%, 85% etc in the end it accounts for a substantial amount of revenue for many of these companies. I wouldnt be surprised to see Adobe folding if they were to pull out of the Mac market. There are viable alternatives to their products already on OSX...
So, no matter how you split the numbers 60%, 20%, 85% etc in the end it accounts for a substantial amount of revenue for many of these companies. I wouldnt be surprised to see Adobe folding if they were to pull out of the Mac market. There are viable alternatives to their products already on OSX...
Speculation I know, but interesting.
Here's a chart for how small flash is to Adobe.
I stand corrected.
I don't think so. While that could be said for an Adobe/Autodesk merger, MS doesn't have very many creative products. That being said, Autodesk is pretty far up MS' ass, so if they conspired to kill Mac support across the board (Office, CS, and Maya/etc.) that could do some serious damage.
Three observations:
1. Unless things have changed recently, doesn't Flash on any mobile device still stuck? Doesn't Flash on mobiles devices still crash, slow down the phone, eat battery life, etc, etc? Has it improved recently? If not, Ballmer is a little disillusion about getting behind the success of Adobe's mobile initiatives.
2. These days Adobe and Microsoft CEOs would get along very well. Narayen and Ballmer have replaced so much of their US employees with outsourced India employees.
3. This kind of crap screams of the juvenile tactics that Ballmer is known for. I'm surprised Ballmer waited this long to have a meeting considering the pissing match Adobe and Apple have been in this year.
1. Unless things have changed recently, doesn't Flash on any mobile device still stuck? Doesn't Flash on mobiles devices still crash, slow down the phone, eat battery life, etc, etc? Has it improved recently? If not, Ballmer is a little disillusion about getting behind the success of Adobe's mobile initiatives.
2. These days Adobe and Microsoft CEOs would get along very well. Narayen and Ballmer have replaced so much of their US employees with outsourced India employees.
3. This kind of crap screams of the juvenile tactics that Ballmer is known for. I'm surprised Ballmer waited this long to have a meeting considering the pissing match Adobe and Apple have been in this year.
If this is true, those people (Microsoft & Adobe) don't even make sense: if Apple's non-support of flash was a relevant factor at all, Apple wouldn't sell their "iDevices" in the numbers that they actually do; so what is the point?
And if the idea was to stop supporting Adobe CS on the Mac (which I don't believe at all), I'm sure Apple will manage to develop a truly competing product on their own in no time. Hell, they could even make it free or near-free and open-source just to piss the hell off of "Microbe".
You wanna take on Apple? Just get your act together and start developing quality products that people want to buy.
And if the idea was to stop supporting Adobe CS on the Mac (which I don't believe at all), I'm sure Apple will manage to develop a truly competing product on their own in no time. Hell, they could even make it free or near-free and open-source just to piss the hell off of "Microbe".
You wanna take on Apple? Just get your act together and start developing quality products that people want to buy.
for me as a designer, this would be the worst thing ever happen. Mac version of CS is already behind Windows version.. and these two companies altogether have a reason to get it far worse.
btw, i think i finally understood the true reason, why flash plugin didn't find it's way to iOS. all i know.. mobile flash plugin performance on android is bad, even on 1GHz ARMed phones. flash is vector based.. so, on retina display and its resolution, it would be absolutely unusable! flash banner can be any big or small, but still rendering 4x more pixels, than do on these droidzz and other crap
btw, i think i finally understood the true reason, why flash plugin didn't find it's way to iOS. all i know.. mobile flash plugin performance on android is bad, even on 1GHz ARMed phones. flash is vector based.. so, on retina display and its resolution, it would be absolutely unusable! flash banner can be any big or small, but still rendering 4x more pixels, than do on these droidzz and other crap
What ? Care to explain what you even mean ? Vector graphics are resolution independant. Flash works on displays with much higher resolution than the "Retina" display.
Huh?
What would either company benefit. Flash replacing Silverlight?!?
Is to merge just because it possible?
What would either company benefit. Flash replacing Silverlight?!?
Is to merge just because it possible?
One of the most bizarre statements i've seen on here in a long time...
& how can anyone honestly believe that MS would spend $15billion on a software company and then suddenly stop making software for Macs?
And Windows 7 takes up more than 12GB on a basic install and Snow Leopard takes up only 7GB. Your point?
I'd laugh if Google poached Adobe instead, and the merger was all a ruse.
It is the year of the buyouts anyways.
If Apple acquired Adobe... now that would be interesting. 180 degree policy reversal, abysmal update cycles for CS, and flash everywhere... I would dare say it would be irony at it's best.
But Microsoft? I don't see much coming out of that.
It is the year of the buyouts anyways.
If Apple acquired Adobe... now that would be interesting. 180 degree policy reversal, abysmal update cycles for CS, and flash everywhere... I would dare say it would be irony at it's best.
But Microsoft? I don't see much coming out of that.
A truly *basic* install (i.e. disabling hibernation, not using Professional/Enterprise/Ultimate, etc.) of Windows 7 is around 4-5 GB.
I prefer Apple build their own like they did on Final Cut and Aperture. They have enough money to develop yet they can save a bunch if they develop it themselves. They can buy Pixelmator it's cheaper and enhance everything from the ground up. Forget the flash, html5 is already there and it's the future and open standard. It's time for Apple to move on and if third party don't want to support them so be it. They are been very successful in introducing new products of their own anyway. Just look at OSX, iOS, iTunes, Safari, Final Cut, Aperture and hoping for iWork soon since they are already available for iPad. I don't think Apple is scared for this merger and they're not stupid to buy Adobe.
As an actual audio engineer that makes a living from the trade, Logic is far from #1.
Pro Tools is the industry standard. Open up a phone book, or go online and call any studio you can find. I guarantee you none that are of professional grade will be running Logic.
That being said I rather like Logic
I think studios use Pro Tools to finalize but the bands themselves are creating on Logic. Most smaller bands I know that mix and record themselves use Logic and Ive heard alot of the bigger names also use Logic when they create their songs and the engineers at the studio use Protools to master.
However, the bands I know and follow are actual bands with people playing drums and bass and a singer and guitarists. Maybe ProTools is what the hip hop/sampling/electro music guys prefer.
