Well then they're using the wrong software to do that as there are far better specialized tools.
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Well then they're using the wrong software to do that as there are far better specialized tools.
I think he meant basic as in a standard, no user interference other than click what the nice screen tells you to, install.
If Adobe were to spin off Flash into it's own company, then merge *that* with M$, then have at it... Just Please, Please, Please keep MicroShaft away from Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, and I guess Acrobat. Basically, keep MS away from ALL the rest of it.
Flash's days are already numbered. I agree Apple should buy Adobe. The new company would be named
Apple.
A good Artist doesent Care about operating Systems, how Long they work, by the Way Windows 7 Works pretty well, they just doing their Job with the tools they Need. A professionell doesent use pixelmator. They use Photoshop.
It has been a mystery to me over the years that with all the cash Steve had how on earth he is not buying Adobe???
I bet Steve Jobs wants to see Adobe torn apart by dogs on the street instead of privately in his back yard. That is why.
Thanks for not making it obvious that you were quoting me and thanks for using your crystal ball to insult me on my word processing usage. In case it really matters to you, I do most of my text-based work in TextEdit. Creative writing may be done in StoryMill and Word is not exactly the POS you describe it to be. That would be Pages (judging from the '08 version that I was really stupid enough to buy).
Oh Dear....
And then you have to download a Mail Client, a PDF Reader and and and
So to all the uneducated fanboys on here who clearly cry foul at the mear mention of another company that isn't Apple.
Microsoft don't innovate?
What about Surface? what about Secondlight? what about prototypes like the courier? what about the extra work they put into Project Natal (Kinect).
Just because it doesn't contain a logo of your favourite fruit don't blast them.
And what has Apple really 'Innovated' on the desktop platform recently? OSX seems to have stopped innovation and has become more evolutionary releases. iPhone is just an amalgomation of other people's technology packages nicely (even the A4 Processor is licensed from ARM)
Where apple really has the nack though is integration and packaging. The vertical model all but died when Sun Microsystems was bought out and Apple were the only company left now it seems the Horizontal type companies are trying to become vertical, weird. I wonder how long it will last?
I'm a pretty old-school Apple user back in the PowerPC days and I'm one of those people who don't 'get' the iPhone, i've tried it and hated it. It seems like Apple's become the company we all used to hate back in the day (i.e. Microsoft). You see less 'Yet another virus on windows' articles than 'Another iPhone flaw' now-a-days.
Microsoft don't innovate?
What about Surface? what about Secondlight? what about prototypes like the courier? what about the extra work they put into Project Natal (Kinect).
Just because it doesn't contain a logo of your favourite fruit don't blast them.
And what has Apple really 'Innovated' on the desktop platform recently? OSX seems to have stopped innovation and has become more evolutionary releases. iPhone is just an amalgomation of other people's technology packages nicely (even the A4 Processor is licensed from ARM)
Where apple really has the nack though is integration and packaging. The vertical model all but died when Sun Microsystems was bought out and Apple were the only company left now it seems the Horizontal type companies are trying to become vertical, weird. I wonder how long it will last?
I'm a pretty old-school Apple user back in the PowerPC days and I'm one of those people who don't 'get' the iPhone, i've tried it and hated it. It seems like Apple's become the company we all used to hate back in the day (i.e. Microsoft). You see less 'Yet another virus on windows' articles than 'Another iPhone flaw' now-a-days.
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No way.. As one of the many people who loves and depends on Adobe software daily.. I would not welcome a takeover at all.. MS' act lately has been fine in regards to software but this would still be terrible news.
No way.. As one of the many people who loves and depends on Adobe software daily.. I would not welcome a takeover at all.. MS' act lately has been fine in regards to software but this would still be terrible news.
I'm not sure either, but I think it has something to do with shoes...
I do think that when Steve Jobs says his prayers at night he thanks God that Balmer is at the helm at Microsoft.
As far as Macs go, they MAY grow to be as much as 10% of the computer market, but even then would be a minor part of Apple's profit picture, so Adobe's products will never be crucial to Apple.
Apple's profit future is in mobile products running simple programs. Some of those mobile programs may do things that CS Suite can do, but on a much more simple and consumer-orientated level.
There is the other thing that people are looking over.
That being development tools. And in particular iOS tools.
If Apple were to buy Adobe then it would mean that "3rd party" tools would no longer be an issue, being that they would technically own said 3rd party.
As for MS buying them i think that it will be a bag of hurt being that MS will want to "add" things to make adobe products "better".
meaning that it would swap flash for silverlight etc. Thus rendering any useable Adobe product null and void.
Developers (developers,developers,developers.... sorry couldnt help myself) would leave in doves.
That being development tools. And in particular iOS tools.
If Apple were to buy Adobe then it would mean that "3rd party" tools would no longer be an issue, being that they would technically own said 3rd party.
As for MS buying them i think that it will be a bag of hurt being that MS will want to "add" things to make adobe products "better".
meaning that it would swap flash for silverlight etc. Thus rendering any useable Adobe product null and void.
Developers (developers,developers,developers.... sorry couldnt help myself) would leave in doves.
I'm not looking forward to switching back to a PC because I'm a graphic designer and Microbe (Microsoft + Adobe) decide to cut off Mac support for CS. I'd probably freak out and hope that Parallels or VMWare Fusion can get the job done.
However, it seems more likely that Adobe wants to dump it's failing Flash onto Microsoft so that they can merge that tech with Silverlight and, ummm, fail more spectacularly? Like they did with Danger and the Sidekick, which was product-managed by some crazy lady who was obsessed with the color pink, which then became the Kin, which sold about 1500 units and was canceled immediately because it looked like a stupid little turtle. Though my wife thought it was cute, she said she would never actually buy one. That's probably what most of the target market thought as well. If there's anything Microsoft loves, it's taking something that is going by the wayside and driving it into the ground faster than anyone imagined possible.
I hope Apple has a CS backup plan. That's a quick way to lose a big chunk of your Mac user-base. Though if this actually happens, given Microsoft's history, a competitor will arise that could win out over CS, that would also provide Mac support. Macs are just too ingrained into the psyche of designers worldwide. We would all lose it! Even if we only had to deal with it for a few years until a better solution came about.
However, it seems more likely that Adobe wants to dump it's failing Flash onto Microsoft so that they can merge that tech with Silverlight and, ummm, fail more spectacularly? Like they did with Danger and the Sidekick, which was product-managed by some crazy lady who was obsessed with the color pink, which then became the Kin, which sold about 1500 units and was canceled immediately because it looked like a stupid little turtle. Though my wife thought it was cute, she said she would never actually buy one. That's probably what most of the target market thought as well. If there's anything Microsoft loves, it's taking something that is going by the wayside and driving it into the ground faster than anyone imagined possible.
I hope Apple has a CS backup plan. That's a quick way to lose a big chunk of your Mac user-base. Though if this actually happens, given Microsoft's history, a competitor will arise that could win out over CS, that would also provide Mac support. Macs are just too ingrained into the psyche of designers worldwide. We would all lose it! Even if we only had to deal with it for a few years until a better solution came about.
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Microsoft + Adobe + Macromedia = MONOPOLY! NO?
OK. Apple should buy Autodesk & gain Multimedia, Film CGI Special Effects, AutoCAD, Revit, Maya, MEP, Sketchbook Pro, etc... Convert remaining hold outs to Mac OSX programs & kill all Windows OS versions, but make "switcher upgrades" available at low price to current legal Windows users of Autodesk programs. Companies switch to Mac computers that run Mac OSX, Windows, Linux & Unix on ONE computer.
Then expand Apple Pro Software to have an Apple Pro Creative Suite MAC OSX + iOS only.
BaldyBot's head explodes!
Game over.
Microsoft + Adobe + Macromedia = MONOPOLY! NO?
OK. Apple should buy Autodesk & gain Multimedia, Film CGI Special Effects, AutoCAD, Revit, Maya, MEP, Sketchbook Pro, etc... Convert remaining hold outs to Mac OSX programs & kill all Windows OS versions, but make "switcher upgrades" available at low price to current legal Windows users of Autodesk programs. Companies switch to Mac computers that run Mac OSX, Windows, Linux & Unix on ONE computer.
Then expand Apple Pro Software to have an Apple Pro Creative Suite MAC OSX + iOS only.
BaldyBot's head explodes!
Game over.
The graphic design market is small. Much smaller than, let's say industrial design and CAD8/CAM/CAE and architecture.
I don't see any problems at all, if Adobe and Microsoft merges into one company.
And all of you, who are dependent from Adobe software on Apple computers, do you really think, MS would discontinue their Mac apps? They could, but they will not.
They (MS) could made this step in the past and then there would be no MS Office for Mac.
Actually a real good artist or designer is not dependent from the tools he is using.
He can use, whatever he want (or whatever it is given to him) and can make wonders.
I don't see any problems at all, if Adobe and Microsoft merges into one company.
And all of you, who are dependent from Adobe software on Apple computers, do you really think, MS would discontinue their Mac apps? They could, but they will not.
They (MS) could made this step in the past and then there would be no MS Office for Mac.
Actually a real good artist or designer is not dependent from the tools he is using.
He can use, whatever he want (or whatever it is given to him) and can make wonders.
I Stopped reading at "Surface." ROFL
You "don't get" the mobile product that single-handedly changed the entire mobile industry overnight? It's easily the equivalent of any of Apple's greatest innovations of yesteryear. Being old-school is one thing, but being that out of touch is just scary.
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I, for one, would love this to happen. At least Microsoft understand the meaning of a consistent UI. Generally find MS stuff to be far more stable.
Only to neglect them after a while, like they are doing now with Final Cut Studio (still 32bit only and without real BD authoring)?
Apple's Pro software updates have lately become about as lame as Adobe's!
The signs are cleary written on the wall: By now high-end computing has become way to boring for Steve Jobs...
Fixed that for you...
You don't get outside of the North American continent that often, do you?
Wake me up when 3G coverage in your world meets European or SE-Asian standards...and don't be mad, while we use our newest shiny LTE-handsets by then...
Gosh, how I hope you're right.
It wouldn't need to be. Of course, Apple would be the so called mother ship, but they could handle Adobe the same way as they're handling FileMaker. It could be fully owned by Apple, but still be its own brand.