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"abandoned over fears that the merger would not pass muster under antitrust regulations" and would not pass muster today, either.
 
Yeah, I'm a designer aswell, and I rely on Adobe Software everyday. Its no secret Adobe Photoshop & Illustrator are the best applications available for us Web & Graphic Designers.. If somehow this means no CS5 on the Mac, then I would switch to a PC in a heartbeat.
What that tells me is that you are a bad designer and nobody should hire you ever. Why? Because you rely on your tools too heavily. A real designer should be able to use even Gimp for crying out loud and create good work. All of the basic tools are there.

Pixelmator has been making progress in leaps and bounds and I don't doubt that either Apple or a third party like the Pixelmator guys would step up and fill the void. I don't see this being a likely scenario but I have to laugh that you would instantly jump when your existing versions should continue to work for some time and you should not be relying on any single tool that much.
 
Creating a vortex of suck so large it could be dangerous to approach.

LOL!

MS has created better version of Office for the Mac platform than for the PC, so maybe there would be a chance that Adobe's bloated suites would get a much-needed overhaul. But I won't hold my breath....
 
Simple, look at all the complaints on the forums when Adobe was behind in the 64bit release.

now image Microsoft announcing no more adobe products, guess what happens next. An exodus to Windows desktops.

No, I don't really buy that. Mac users would just stop buying new versions and stick with the latest Mac-compatible version. Even nowadays, there are still people using fairly old versions of CS and even pre-CS Adobe apps anyway.

And then, along would come a replacement, either by Apple or some other developer (like what happened with Final Cut Pro?)...
 
It would seem that hardly any one here understands adobe and their products...

Microsoft would gain a lot. A ton of intellectual property to go with what they have.

Postscripts rendering model is far more flexible and superior to windows GDI model.

It doesn't deprecate existing windows devices, but new devices can be much more capable. Postscript rendering is much more mature in its ability to write to any specific color set, but especially inks. Office has long had an issue in that the renderers were not good enough for sophisticated printing.

Office sharing the renderer with the rest of the CS suite (this is the superior strength of the CS suite compared to other solutions) would be phenomenal.

The word spacing and breaking algorithms of Indesign, the Video components of AE and Premiere, the vector capabilities of Illustrator, the edge detection and manipulation as shown in PS, Trapwise, and AE.

The suite of programs provide a ton of innovative growth into the microsoft customers. Providing program growth and acceptance into a wide range of products.

Flash. This really isn't an Adobe product and could probably use the most help of Microsoft and pockets for security and speed improvements. A lot of the stuff created for IE 9 is sure to make it into VBA and Flash as well. Silverlight as a product will be deprecated into flash that can read silverlight and accomplish silverlight DMA. The lighter and faster that they can create flash, the more they own the tech for now, and when HTML 5 becomes mainstream. The better that they are at rendering which Adobe has huge strengths, and microsoft is developing in-roads the better.

PDF becomes an even bigger player in everyones life, and will not be a printer or something bizarre in windows, but simply a save setting. PDF also shares the Postscript renderer at its core. The ability to store docx and exls files directly without weird workaround, and get faithful pages, and faithful page editting will be a huge benefit to the customer pass.

Quartz is an interesting question. Who knows how this is licensed to Apple and what are the promises going forward. There is a TON of the OSX rendering that depends on quartz. Which is the PDF rendering engine at its heart (from Adobe). Getting the quality of rendering so high and so many services for free, Apple actually released a new operating system that barely did or ran anything, because they new that they would be able to focus on other things in OSX.

A switch of rendering to Postscript, instead of GDI would allow IE to actually run on other platforms with relatively small amounts of engineering.

Imagine a strong core of common content and rendering tools. From authoring to output. And this strong core could be extended and added and conformed for workflows or greater creativity that would support an army of workers joined by a file, where each can add to the file their expertise and training. Authors, designers, illustrators, craftsman, printers, consumers. It has been impossible to do this effortlessly. Different platforms, different customers. It was difficult to actually do the above, and it didn't get done often cuz it was so hard. The merger will have tools to actually make that easy.

Integrating and making the workflow better and easier is much multiyear work. Exploding to even greater utilization of the products suites world wide. This is good for Microsoft, this is good for people that want to make their lives easier.

The intellectual property at Adobe is deep and profound in a number of important pathways and work flows. And monopoly in patent is perfectly LEGAL.
 
Why did not Steve Jobs buy Adobe, he then get's all the high end software, Photoshop, 3DSMax, Autocad etc, and can work with Adobe to make flash super efficient.
 
I don't see a merger getting approval because of the marketshare wielded in video playback by Adobes Flash and Microsoft's Silverlight.

Did not you forget about HTML5? I though the prevailing opinion on this forum was that HTML5 is winning (if not already won the battle for video playback.
 
Gosh I hope this doesn't happen!

I like my Creative Suite apps thank-you very much. Microsoft will destroy Adobe.

Adobe needs to understand that technology changes. Flash isn't all that and a bag of chips anymore... and like it or not, it IS pretty buggy.

Apple doesn't dominate the phone market like Microsoft dominates the desktop OS market.

Adobe, you are doing fine just as you are. Microsoft will just drag you down. Don't let Ballmer anywhere near your company.
 
as a professional that makes my living using Adobe and Apple, this merger could spell disaster.
Microsoft will probably put the development for the Mac platform in second level for all Adobe products.
I wished Apple could just buy Adobe and be over with this drama. ;)

apples track record with developing professional software isn't great either. just look how underdeveloped iWorks is.

Apple never really supported the business sector so if Apple buys Adobe that would not be good.
 
One source indicates that representatives of the two companies discussed Apple's refusal to support the viewing of Flash content on its mobile devices
Isn't it the viewing of Flash in it's current state that's the issue? I know there are some ways to sneak around the App Store using it, but first and foremost I thought it was because Apple thought the mobile version of Flash was inadequate.
 
Built-in PDF support in Windows without using the gaping security hole the size of Mordor called Adobe Reader? Question mark...
 
I think Apple, Google and Adobe should merge to become APPLOOBE!

TREMBLE BEFORE THE MIGHTY APPLOOBE! All who deny your god will be considered shova and be tortured!
 
I used to think highly of Adobe, but they have really been going downhill over the years, this would merger would make their product suck even more, such a shame.
 
Backup plan

I wonder if Apple have a backup plan in the event that Adobe was ever taken over by MS or someone else that threatened the existence of Photoshop or Illustrator on the Mac.

Perhaps they will release superior products to these two, like they did with Final Cut Pro vs Premiere. Can't remember which came first, Final Cut released then Premiere on the Mac being discontinued or vice versa.
 
It will be very different without MS + Adobe products on it.
If Microsoft pulled Office, bought Adobe, and pulled CS, then that would actually be enough to impact Mac sales. Probably not as much as you think it would given Mac's typical demographic. But I very much doubt that's going to happen. Microsoft will take the easier software development for profit avenue rather than the cut-throat lawsuit-inviting government-disgruntling alternative.

Also, for market share, Adobe is not very relevant. Adobe is relevant to the professional market. It is Office that holds some relevance across the board.
 
PS> THis is probably not about a merger but about illegal (and unfortunately government-ignored) collusion to destroy a mutual competitor. Imagine if you saw AC, Fram, and AutoZone get together to talk about putting General Motors out of business?

grow up.
 
I got a great name for the new company: Microbe.

... Think Flash would last long in a merger? Nope, Silverlight it would be.

Microsoft + Adobe = Microbe

Flash + Silverlight = Flashlight

All new Flashlight brought to you by Microbe - miCrapsoft and aDOPE's best attempt to develop a tool to help them find their heads in their collective parasitic asses.
 
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