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Microsoft and Adobe Executives Meet to Discuss Apple, Possible Merger
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You guarantee this... ok, well that settles that.
If Adobe makes "crap", then why would you want Apple to buy them?
+1. Please don't let this happen, please don't let this happen, please, please, please!
Well your clearly an idiot.. First of all the industry standard is Photoshop and Illustrator. Just like the industry standard for word & excel is Microsoft Office.. Second of all us designers have been using Photoshop and Illustrator for years, there is no other software around that offers the same amount of features and flexibility. You think just because Apple decides to not support Adobe we should learn new software and applications all over again?
Your an idiot
Also I'm an awesome designer and I know it. I wouldn't have any trouble getting hired. My works are among the best. Infact I was the best designer out of all the students in my Media class... Your saying "Your a bad designer", based on what? I rely on tools? All designers do, some prefer other tools over the one I use.. but most of us rely on Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator. I've used CorelDraw, Fireworks, Jasc Paint Shop Pro.. I've used all of them.. none of them compare to Adobe Photoshop..
correction the industry standards are not the software but the files they create, jpegs, tiffs, pngs, eps etc etc.....
I could use gimp to do a job and the files created could be used by any layout package, I could use inkscape and the eps's it produces would be printable on any press.
Though at present I'd rather use AI or PS I'd rather use anything on a Mac than switch to a PC and all the hassle that brings.
ROFLMAO!
How to kill two birds with a single stone?
Let Adobe Merger with Microsoft.
Of course the SEC won't let it happen, but Apple could take them out in one fell swoop and we would see the end of Flash!
How to kill two birds with a single stone?
Let Adobe Merger with Microsoft.
Of course the SEC won't let it happen, but Apple could take them out in one fell swoop and we would see the end of Flash!
How often does Microsoft leave that much money on the table just out of spite, though?
It's a bit sad what the mass media is perceiving about this. Adobe isn't all Flash, at all. They've got the best possible suite of creative products (InDesign, Illustrator, Premiere Pro, After Effects) and the company would be loosing a lot more intangible assets than what meets the eye if a merger were to happen between Microsoft.
Flash is dead dude, get over it. The Blackberry Playbook has no apps...the Ipad has over 8 million sold and over 30,000 apps that are Ipad specific.
The Ipad 2 will blow any other tablet out of the water.
The Playbook does not even have 3G! Its wifi only. And nobody knows what the price it yet.
Apple could drop the price of the Ipad 2 to less than $400...and nobody would be able to compete.
You expect Microsoft to integrate Adobe's stuff with Office? Microsoft can't even properly integrate their own stuff with Office. Microsoft, as an entity, is an empire of little software kingdoms that don't get along with each other, and Adobe would just be another one of those.
Adobe is looking for a life raft
Adobe is a dying company that needs to radically re-invent itself if it wants to survive.
Where is their growth going to come from in the next five years?
It's not like there are a lot of design studios out there wondering whether or not they should use Adobe products. So there are limited opportunities for new markets.
The software itself has basically become a user interface that is layered on top of Apple's Open GL engine. There are dozens of smaller software makers working the low-end disruption angle against Adobe.
Look at Pixelmator. As powerful as Photoshop? ... No way; but it's a great interface for executing 99% of the tasks that MOST people buy and use Photoshop for and it only costs 60 bucks not $500.
There are others out there too.
So yes, Adobe products may end up with a place in the high-end market for people doing crazy image editing. But high-end technology markets don't last, they get absorbed and overthrown by better, cheaper alternatives.
So where does Adobe go?
SAAS? Maybe. But I don't see them having the culture for it. They aren't Google. Even Apple has a hard time providing services in the cloud. It's just not their space.
The Video codec play that Flash had going is effectively dead thanks to the big push off the cliff from Apple and the adoption rates of H.264 and other open-ish technologies.
The only option really then is to develop a platform-based solution which is what Flash-Flex is supposed to be. But Adobe's business model is all wrong for it. People don't buy development platforms in $2000 software bundles off the shelves.
Recent acquisitions like Omniture to me shows a company that doesn't know where its future should be.
Adobe is a dying company that needs to radically re-invent itself if it wants to survive.
Where is their growth going to come from in the next five years?
It's not like there are a lot of design studios out there wondering whether or not they should use Adobe products. So there are limited opportunities for new markets.
The software itself has basically become a user interface that is layered on top of Apple's Open GL engine. There are dozens of smaller software makers working the low-end disruption angle against Adobe.
Look at Pixelmator. As powerful as Photoshop? ... No way; but it's a great interface for executing 99% of the tasks that MOST people buy and use Photoshop for and it only costs 60 bucks not $500.
There are others out there too.
So yes, Adobe products may end up with a place in the high-end market for people doing crazy image editing. But high-end technology markets don't last, they get absorbed and overthrown by better, cheaper alternatives.
So where does Adobe go?
SAAS? Maybe. But I don't see them having the culture for it. They aren't Google. Even Apple has a hard time providing services in the cloud. It's just not their space.
The Video codec play that Flash had going is effectively dead thanks to the big push off the cliff from Apple and the adoption rates of H.264 and other open-ish technologies.
The only option really then is to develop a platform-based solution which is what Flash-Flex is supposed to be. But Adobe's business model is all wrong for it. People don't buy development platforms in $2000 software bundles off the shelves.
Recent acquisitions like Omniture to me shows a company that doesn't know where its future should be.
You have that right. Like two people falling off a cliff holding on to each other. If anything, they will save some operating costs and extend the bleeding time.
If anything shows we are in a post-PC era of the technology business, this is it.
It's already included with Microsoft Office since 2007 via plug-in and default in 2010. I can just imagine all the past RAGE from either Adobe or possibly the EU.
It's just annoying to have to still bolt on Adobe Reader for something so mundane when every other OS gets away with it all the time.
This is a very good thing. This, people, is competition heating up. If other companies get their act together and this turns into a knock down drag out fight, we as consumers will win.
yeah.
Dead.
Dead as in:
85% of Fortune 500 companies use it on their sites, thousands of companies have invested millions of dollars developing e-learning apps with it, 75% of all video on the web is delivered with it.
Dead.
Because you said so.
Easy, as much as I like Mac I like Photoshop a lot better. Without Photoshop for Mac my 2010 MP, 2009 mini and 2008 MBP sales would have never occurred. My iPhone syncs just fine on iTunes for Windows.
Flash is the Gasoline of the internet. Damn near everything uses it. There are alternatives of course, but they wont be mainstream for years to come.
Um no they don't. They just get entrenched in businesses and never change because everyone's used to the way it works.
Unless you're talking about the consumer market, then you might have a point.
No - you don't get it! Microsoft and Adobe are dead! So is Google! Their combined $400 billion market cap and $100 billion in revenue is nothing! Apple will be the only company left within five - no, make that three - years.
Walmart, Exxon, Crox, Keebler, Slinky, Trojan - all dead, dead, dead! iProducts will replace them all.
Try using PS or AI on a windows platform, it's not pleasant.
Designers don't want to have to get geeky, they want and need software and hardware that gets on with the job and doesn't blow up in their face at 3am when your deadline is 6am.....
Adobe does produce the best software for designers, but it's not hard to see a replacement taking my money in the not to distant future.