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Microsoft Announces New 'Surface' Tablet, New Hardware and Software Based on Windows 8
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Why all the Zune talk..
A lot of Apple fans easily forget that Microsoft's last hardware venture wasn't the Zune but the Kinect which just so happens to be the fastest selling consumer electronics device in history out performing any Apple device.
Competition is good and congrats Microsoft.
A lot of Apple fans easily forget that Microsoft's last hardware venture wasn't the Zune but the Kinect which just so happens to be the fastest selling consumer electronics device in history out performing any Apple device.
Competition is good and congrats Microsoft.
Not really , on the contrary even. Apple has given up most of the devices it had in the coorporate market and shows no sign to integrate itself.
Even the non mac pro upgrade is a sign of that.
The only thing you see is some of the ipads being integrated or people using iphones or if its allowed (bring you ownd evide policies) macbooks.
Google on the other other hand with its google apps cloud service is stealing away exchange/office customers
No apple is of no concern to MS in this market and there are little signs they want to enter it .
I didn't have to deal with it until recently, as nobody wanted it before. so even if it came out 2.5 years ago, it didn't matter to me. it's like it didn't exist.
Didn't you read what I said before? Didn't you read the links?
Go to bed, so you don't sleep in class and miss on your education.
Yeah, but the form factor alone is going to draw comparison. Shame really, because some people don't understand exactly what this thing is. If you're a photographer or an artist, anyone who uses Photoshop extensively really, this thing is a godsend. As long as it allows for a goodly bit of ram, it's got the oomph to handle higher end apps fairly well.
Fairly well. A beefy laptop could do better.
But what about using as an iPad style tablet? Even as light as it is, it's still too heavy to be considered a good "media consumption" machine. Plus you have to consider the battery life. It's possible Intel and MS were able to pull off a miracle, and somehow managed to get the battery to last for 5-6 hours in all but the heaviest workloads. But even then, it's not as good as an iPad.
...which makes me think this'll be the biggest problem with the x86 Surface. Is it good enough to please everyone? It might end up being a merely decent enough jack of all trades type machine. Good enough to do alright in a variety of situations, but not as good as larger laptops or simpler tablets. MS doesn't want a whole load of people going "you know, it's pretty good. But I kinda wish I got X or Y instead of this". The old chesnut "being damned by faint praises" comes to mind here.
To me, this looks like the biggest hurdle the Surface has to pass.
It says a lot about the product when people aren't even allowed to touch it, as noted on Engadget's video:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/hands-on-with-microsoft-surface-for-windows-rt/
Exactly the opposite principles of Apple who encourage you to explore... Still a good effort I guess, but it's kinda pointless without any specifications
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/hands-on-with-microsoft-surface-for-windows-rt/
Exactly the opposite principles of Apple who encourage you to explore... Still a good effort I guess, but it's kinda pointless without any specifications
Apple are strong in the consumer market for sure. The problem with Apple, is that they've always treated the enterprise market in the same way they treat everyone: "you either do it our way, or f'#k off". Enterprise simply doesn't work like that. Their treatment of Mac Pro users and Final Cut professionals pretty much shows their true colors when it comes to the corporate market.
That's why Microsoft are content to still support a 10 year old OS, whereas Apple barely even seem to care about their current OS and spend most of their time talking about what the next one will be.
Each approach works well in their respective markets.
"Insulting a man's"... computer ..."be worse than insulting his mother!"
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I'm also worried about water. I've gotten drops of water on my iPod touch and iPhone 4 without problems, but getting water in the vent would be fatal. Food would also clog it up real badly, but getting food on an iPad can at worst make your cleanable dock connector dirty.
Well, i was referring to all the features it supposedly comes with in the commercial. If things come the way it looks, then its seems rather nice to already have a forum of ease of use typing, as well as a simpler way with propping up the tablet without the need of additional accessories.
Sad that the commercial doesnt really state what else it has.
how do you gather it will grab >50% iPad sales? In 10 years maybe it will sell more than the iPad 2. But in one year? No way. Not at $500. Not at $499. Perhaps $399, on par with iPad 2 16GB. But then, if apple drops iPad 2 to $199 or iPad 3 to $399 when iPad 4 is out, that's even stiffer competition. Let's not forget the flurry of android devices even lower pricing than any iPad.
Everything (well most) of what we wanted in the iPad 2 we got in the 3, I can't imagine a minor spec bump for the 4. If this doesn't drive apple to make an even better iPad I really don't know what will. Not that apple likes to use the market as indication but like I said a minor spec bump won't do it this time. Obviously most of us would still buy it regardless but I'm just saying lmao.
The keyboard integration is far from elegant.
It's not lap friendly for one, which is a big deal. Also, what about portrait and that kickstand?
The logictech solution is much nicer on the iPad.
It's not lap friendly for one, which is a big deal. Also, what about portrait and that kickstand?
The logictech solution is much nicer on the iPad.
Ah so the last ipad (wich I bought btw) was a failure then?
Why? With his logic an imac or macbook shouldnt have cooling vents .
This is the same pointless argument as thiness .
Power consumption, noise, weight those are important things.
A tegra 3 doesnt require that much cooling, and i5 does .
No thats a step too far. And seeing my wife complain about her new ipad getting to warm to her liking I wished apple had introduces such a vent to get rid of the excess heat.
What matters to you is irrelevant, as are your links as it relates to this thread. You said it came out the other day, you're wrong. You then changed your story to something that wasn't even part of the discussion. You then said you were going to leave and here you are "wasting" your time again. Can you keep ANY one of your stories straight? Just one?
I can tell you're getting upset, no one to blame but yourself for your own bad story telling. At least now you know there are impartial members at mac rumors that will call you out on BS.
I think the light's burnt out. Great source.
So Windows 7 is just starting to be adopted by enterprise? Wow, that means they sold a half a billion copies to consumers alone!
Yes, but you forgot one thing that I also forgot. Microsoft publishes some very popular games..............................
hahahahah, you made my morning dude! I'm not saying it's bad that MS is trying, they should and it's good to have a competition but I'm quite sure it's not going to be that hot to endanger iPad. Look at the number of Apps for iPad, look at the numbers of how many iPad's is out there and it's growing rapidly...
How about to think a bit before you hit "Submit Reply" ?
If they made this thing a gaming powerhouse and allowed an actual tactile controller (any bluetooth controller) to work with it natively, this would be selling well no doubt. That's the biggest gripe about iOS - the lack of any real controller. You can only ***** touch the screen so much when playing games. Most of the fun games are really limited by the stupid touch screen controls.
And now steve-o has gone so I hope someone at apple has enough balls to actually create an api for gaming controllers. These stupid restrictions makes apple look like sony.
I have no doubt the battery life on the Pro won't be anywhere near the iPads. The pro is like an evolution of the Asus EEE Slate. Good concept, poor execution. Win 7 just wasn't fun to use on a tablet, and the unit ran hot, heavy and poor battery life. The Pro looks to improve on all those fronts. Time will tell if it improves them enough.
Some of the iMac G3s did not have cooling fans. I doubt this fan will be loud or annoying at all, but it puts the tablet at risk. Stuff falling into the vent is not good.
Yes apple does let people play with the devices months before they are released, thank god else we would have endless of thread that speculate what will be released.
It never amazes me how people can just write something down without thinking .